PhillyKev 0 #301 June 30, 2003 Quote You people are truly the sickest bunch of ignorant creatures , but I'm sure there are many more of you than we have heard of. The Supreme? court has just sold out the American public to the queer life format. As I said before, WHY would God ever wish to bless America? America's days are numbered, and the number is NOT a highone. You, know, I think I read this exact same statement attributed to Jimmy Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #302 June 30, 2003 Quote Quote You people are truly the sickest bunch of ignorant creatures , but I'm sure there are many more of you than we have heard of. The Supreme? court has just sold out the American public to the queer life format. As I said before, WHY would God ever wish to bless America? America's days are numbered, and the number is NOT a highone. And where is all this happening ? I've been married to the same woman for 22 years, I don't feel inclined to run out and enlist in the "gay conspiracy". This isn't going to make any horny hetero boys or girls wishh they were gay. We do have plenty of gay friends though. And I knew a kid in high school who blew his brains out with a .357 after being busted by a vice cop who propositioned him. Honest to God, I think you people would be happier living in a country like Iran, where single moms are put in front of firing squads. One of the reasons people came to America in the first place was to escape RELIGIOUS tyranny. The other was for personal freedom. Go to church, enjoy your Bible, and leave the rest of us the hell alone. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #303 June 30, 2003 Quote check out this link then if you are all so dam smart http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1102.pdf http://www.hivpositive.com/f-HIVyou/CDCupdates/CDC-StatsMenu.html Interesting, your link (which you didn't link) showed that 33% of new cases of aids are caused by homosexual men. So you're proving the point that most cases of aids are not caused by homosexuality. Did you read the stats or just assume they would prove your incorrect claim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #304 June 30, 2003 Well put, my friend. I can't believe any thinking person would support any law whatsoever that restricts what consenting adults do to each other in the privacy of their own bedrooms. The fact that they do, and then throw out inane shit to try and justify their "belief" (i.e. it's wrong because someone else told me so, not because of any rational argument I constructed myself), means they're probably the same kind of people who supported Hitler when he told them the Jews were the root of all evil. No ability to think for themselves, easily led, full of hatred, and probably hypocrites in a lot of ways too. But of course the US is a free country so they have the right to air their horseshit and we have the right to dismiss it. Still makes me sick though. Plus ca change... Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,068 #305 June 30, 2003 >Interesting, your link (which you didn't link) showed that 33% of >new cases of aids are caused by homosexual men. D'oh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #306 June 30, 2003 Interesting, your link (which you didn't link) showed that 33% of new cases of aids are caused by homosexual men. So you're proving the point that most cases of aids are not caused by homosexuality. Did you read the stats or just assume they would prove your incorrect claim? *** You must not read to well. Go to the 1999 report. As of-1999 733,374 people were infected with AIDS. 82% men 18% women 1% children under 13. 47% Gay men, 25% iv drug users, 10% heterosexuall sex and 2% blood products. So read the FACTS next time you want to shoot off your mouth. Facts speak louder then words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #307 June 30, 2003 Muenkel reclines in chair with a bowl of popcorn and a beer waiting for the entertainment to begin. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #308 June 30, 2003 So we should do the ass-fuck with gay women instead? Edit: I just checked with a gay female friend. She said they aren't into that kind of stuff."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #309 June 30, 2003 Quote So read the FACTS next time you want to shoot off your mouth. Facts speak louder then words. First of all, nice hostile tone there. I didn't think I was shooting off my mouth, just trying to show you how you are completely wrong and skewing the stats in your favor. You must have stopped reading completely. Look at the next table with info gathered from confidential reports (which are probably more accurate). And it shows 33%. Now take a look at this chart http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0800505.html 34.6 of the 40 million people infected with aids are in areas where gay men are not even listed as one of the main modes of transmission but hetero sexual sex is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #310 June 30, 2003 Yep, page 15 of 44 to make it easy for everyone. "HIV infections" = new cases = more relevant data than the cumulative totals since reporting started. Especially because reporting and testing early on were very much focused on homosexuals. The heterosexual #'s are probably higher in reality because many straight people still (wrongly) do not perceive themselves to be at risk and therefore may not get tested. The facts do speak, but you have to actually be able to LISTEN to them first. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #311 June 30, 2003 No "Tone affect" ment. The point is that gays spread AIDs and are one of the main factors for the speread. Now we can bring in Africa, they have a total epidemic, that i know nothing about but here in America The two main factors for the spread of AIDS is Gays and IV drug users. Why are so many "other" getting infected? Well go back to when it started and who started it. Gays and IV Drug users. We have them to thank for the spread of AIDS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #312 June 30, 2003 Quote The two main factors for the spread of AIDS is Gays and IV drug users. Why are so many "other" getting infected? Well go back to when it started and who started it. Gays and IV Drug users. We have them to thank for the spread of AIDS. Actually, we have bigots and closed minded individuals to thank. If certain people wouldn't make homosexuals and IV drug users feel they need to hide from the rest of society, they may have gotten the proper help they needed when it first started and reduced the spread. And if people would concentrate on the real issue that aids is spread by an exchange of body fluid, instead of certain activities, then people who engage in other activities (like unprotected heterosexual sex) may be more aware of their own risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #313 June 30, 2003 Well that is an opinion. Not to hard to spread awareness. If you do dope and jam a needle in your arm, sharing the needle with others you have a great chance of contracting AIDS and taking a faster approach to death. If you have Gay sex or unproteted sex the same applies. This still take me back to my point on who spread AIDS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #314 June 30, 2003 Quote So read the FACTS next time you want to shoot off your mouth. Facts speak louder then words. OOOOPPPPSSSSS From the WORLD Health Organization http://www.who.int/health_topics/hiv_infections/en/ AIDS Epidemic Update 2002 WHO has released on 26 November, in collaboration with UNAIDS, the AIDS Epidemic Update, December 2002 with estimates based on the most recent available data on the spread of HIV in countries around the world. There are 42 million people living with HIV/AIDS world-wide. 38.6 million of these are adults, 19.2 million are women and 3.2 million are children under the age of 15. Five million new infections with HIV occured in 2002 of which 4.2 million were adults and 2 million of them were women. A total of 3.1 million people died of HIV/AIDS related causes in 2002. Sub-Saharan Africa has the highest number of HIV positive individuals (29.4 million people living with HIV/AIDS) followed by South and South-East Asia (6 million). In North America there are 980,000 people living with HIV/AIDS, 570,000 in Western Europe and 1.2 million in Eastern Europe and Central Asia. The number of HIV positive individuals in Australia and New Zealand has remained constant since 2001 (15,000 people). In Latin America and the Caribbean the figure is 1.5 million and 440,000 respectively. East Asia and the Pacific have 1.2 million people living with HIV/AIDS. North Africa and the Middle East have 550,000 people living with HIV/AIDS. DUH this is NOT a GAY disease....its a HUMAN disease that is killing people. But since you are not gay.. I guess you dont need to worry about getting it. OK so you dont like the guys who bat for their own team fine..... but dont use a flacid argument like sodomy laws to PROVE that Gay men need to be demonized because in this country 4 years ago they were the predominant group affected by this, when on a worldwide average its a VERY small percentage in comparison. Party on DUDE.............. think about it the next time you are intimate with any other human being... and who they have been intimate with... and who they have been intimate with...................... To be uninformed and stupid is a fast track to getting very sick and getting dead. Not only for you but any one you love or just have casual intimacy with. Sodomy is not about ANAL sex only and gay men .. its a whole lot more. Its about what any two consenting adults ( Hetero or Homsexual) do in the privacy of their bedrooms. ( BORING) ( Tents, Campers, or phone booths ... or Airplanes Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,068 #315 June 30, 2003 >The point is that gays spread AIDs . . . So do breeders. >Why are so many "other" getting infected? Because heterosexual women get (and spread) AIDS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #316 June 30, 2003 DUH this is NOT a GAY disease....its a HUMAN disease that is killing people. But since you are not gay.. I guess you dont need to worry about getting it*** You dont listen do you? Lets see gays and iv drug users started the spread. Ummm what dont you understand? Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any state under state or federal law shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #317 June 30, 2003 Lets stick with the great USA for now. How can you compare Africa to the USA? Ok who and how was AIDS spread in AMERICA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #318 June 30, 2003 >The point is that gays spread AIDs . . . So do breeders. >Why are so many "other" getting infected? Because heterosexual women get (and spread) AIDS. *** I NEVER said women could not spread AIDS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #319 June 30, 2003 OK let me see if I follow your logic here. 1. AIDS started spreading first among gays before it spread to other segments of society. 2. THEREFORE homosexual sex, PROTECTED or UNPROTECTED, is everyone else's problem (not the disease itself, or treatment, or education on safe sex). 3. THEREFORE we should outlaw homosexual sex (whoops, along with oral sex, sorry, because that's how all the laws read). 4. AS A RESULT of those laws, a significant portion of the population are likely to simply give up having sex with the people they are naturally attracted to. 5. AS A RESULT of that, AIDS will stop being a problem. Let me know if I am missing some crucial link in your thinking. I may be making a mistake trying to boil all your posts down to an actual train of thought, since when I look back over them they basically just seem like a string of unconnected rants about how you don't like gay people, with no real point, but I figured it was worth a try anyway. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,068 #320 June 30, 2003 >I NEVER said women could not spread AIDS. Oh, OK. I thought you were anti-sodomy because you claimed that it spread AIDS; good to see that's not the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #321 June 30, 2003 Quote So read the FACTS next time you want to shoot off your mouth. Facts speak louder then words. still havent check on the definition of "fact" have you??____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #322 June 30, 2003 Wrong again . Never said i dont like "Gay" people. I have a few Gay friends, have lost 2 to AIDS. I dont think it is right in any whay shap or form. This is my opinion and last time i checked they are free in America. So dont put words in my mouth. Hey go F*&k all the ass you want to. I might not agree with you but that does not make you a bad person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #323 June 30, 2003 Hey Muenkel - pass me a beer wouldja? I thought it was strange on Friday when I didn't see the credits go up at the end of the thread, but now I realize that it was just a reeeeaaaallly long intermission. A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #324 June 30, 2003 Quote Lets see gays and iv drug users started the spread. Ummm what dont you understand? I guess you need to actually delve deeper into this subject...since you are so enthralled with it... so if you actually read this link will you now be anti-government rather than anti-gay. http://www.iahf.com/other/20010304.html As far as the married part....I dont care WHAT two people do...married or otherwise..... why should you????? I REALLY dont think the government should be dealing with what two people do....period. I was married to an idiot... he liked to step outside those bounds you hold so dear. I for one was VERY scared by that at the time. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #325 June 30, 2003 Quote Well that is an opinion. Not to hard to spread awareness. If you do dope and jam a needle in your arm, sharing the needle with others you have a great chance of contracting AIDS and taking a faster approach to death. If you have Gay sex or unproteted sex the same applies. This still take me back to my point on who spread AIDS. Ignorance spreads AIDS. The guy or girls who says "not me, I'm straight, I don't use drugs,", they are the "spreaders" of AIDS. I actually know a guy who thinks you can get AIDS from being served food by a gay person (male or female). Can people "out grow ignorance"? JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
