Dumpster 0 #1 July 21, 2003 I am now content with the sound of my Harley. I put a pair Screaming Eagle II slip-ons on last year, and while it was louder, and performance was OK, I took the advice of a friend who works for Harley in Milwaukee - "knock the baffles clean out." So I did. Drilled out the one pop rivet, and out they came. Nice and loud. Nice crackling when I let off the throttle without backfiring, or that nasty growling like with an S&S carb and straight pipes. And she doesn't hesitate or spit back through the carb like she used to. The great part is, I set car alarms off in parking lots all the time now! SWEET!!!! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #2 July 21, 2003 yeah, I have the same pipes on mine and am happy with the sound plus I don't have to worry about cops and muffler checks at rallies or on the way to them. But I do know what sound your talking about and it's SWAAAAAAEEEET"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 July 21, 2003 Just don't park it near my house. Around here, the quote is "loud pipes get removed". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #4 July 21, 2003 I'm thinking anti-lock brakes might be more effective. Like on my Bimmer.... (Caution flamers: Sangiro rides BMW with anti-lock) Plus there's that whole power and handling thing without having to spend a zillion dollars on the aftermarket. But, yeah, I'll never know the thrill of setting off car alarms with a good rev. My life is so empty..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bill2 0 #5 July 21, 2003 The great part is, I set car alarms off in parking lots all the time now! _____________________ and piss people off who hate bikes which encourages them to vote for all manner of stupid laws on motorcycles - such as trying to ban all motorcycles in part of downtown chicago a couple of years ago. It didn't last but only because a road that went through it was federal highway and therefor that was not allowed. also, since the number one situation for motorcycle accidents that involved cars was a car turning left in front of a bike, and loud pipes will not save you at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #6 July 22, 2003 Quotesince the number one situation for motorcycle accidents that involved cars was a car turning left in front of a bike, and loud pipes will not save you at all. (Please note- This is not a personal jab, attack, or anything like that!) [Dennis Leary mode] That's why I get really defensive when I get on the bike - As soon as I'm in the saddle, I automatically assume everyone in a car/truck/suv/whatever is an asshole hellbent on running my ass over. I love these cagers that say "I didn't see him". My bike weighs 500 pounds, and I'm another 180. That's damn near seven hundred pounds of mass, sparky!! How can you miss that? Maybe if these folks would get the damn cellphone out of thier ear, put down the Times, or whatever they're reading when they're supposed to be watching the road, and remember how to use a frigging turn signal once in a while, folks like me wouldn't have to worry about becoming a hood oranment on some yuppies' Land Rover. I like loud pipes because they're just that - Loud. I don't wear a helmet, either. Don't like 'em, and I don't like people who try to protect me from myself. [/Dennis Leary mode] Gee- That was fun! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #7 July 22, 2003 QuoteJust don't park it near my house. Around here, the quote is "loud pipes get removed". No problem. man. Philly is one of the very last places I'd like to ride. Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SadSue 0 #8 July 22, 2003 If you're up for a really scary close call, and are into motorcycles, check this out; http://65.54.168.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=9e67781f5ca8c9558b59cf66548adbc7&lat=1058846791&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ebubble%2dsqueak%2ecom%2fforyou%2fbike_silly%2fFimWSS%2ewmv Hope you don't get Banned! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #9 July 22, 2003 QuoteLoud Pipes Save Lives ya know what too... speed can save you also... i've almost been merged into like 5 times and all i had to do was hit the throttle and rocket in front of em.... or hit the brakes and watch em go by me.... (with enough clerance in front or back of course) if not i'd drive on the breakdown lane....... the one and only reason i don't like nor will not ever ride a harley is thier sound..... i hate that shit when i'm in my car with the windows rolled up and the radio on and the harley that is 100 ft in front of me can be heard(loudly)... but then again i'm the same way with peoples stereos and the bass they put out......or the moron on a crotch rocket racing his engine at a stop light to red line also... i like to be sociably to others.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #10 July 22, 2003 Oh yeah- I've had quite a few people try to merge into my ass. But don't get me wrong - I'll pull into the passing lane when I see some one coming down an entrance ramp - I'm cool that way. But when a two-lane is merging into a single lane, and you've got this one Lexus-driving moron who HAS to get in front of you, no matter what, THOSE guys I show no quater. They can eat the shoulder for driving like that. And I'm a complete highway asshole sometimes - I can't stand that loud thumping bass shit, so I retaliate with loud pipes. I don't wear a helmet on the bike, I wear seatbelts, and a helmet when I jump. I ride wearing jeans and boots, no helmet, and a black t-shirt. I can't stand crotch rockets - they're just statistics waiting to happen, and some of the worst, irresponsible riders I have ever seen. I think the dumbest thing (now keep in mind helmets are optional here in Illinois-) is a kid on a riceburner, in shorts, a dago-T, sandals, AND A HELMET, riding like he's at Laguna. That's like the fat lady who orders a triple cheeseburger, double onion rings and diet coke, and says, "I'm on a diet". Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base704 0 #11 July 22, 2003 QuoteAround here, the quote is "loud pipes get removed". around here trying to remove someone's pipes might get your head removed...You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #12 July 22, 2003 Quotei like to be sociably to others.... RIIIIIGHT. Thats why you tell that duck joke in such a low voice"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #13 July 22, 2003 I can't stand Harley's! Loud, setting off car alarms, scaring little old ladies, snobby bastards won't even wave at other bikes. I think they're like Saturn owners... And really! All those dentists going through a midlife crisis... paying twice as much for somthing to last half as long, and then having to spend half their paycheck every week on Hardly Branded material. And most of them ride around with their loafers, kahki shorts, and a wife-beater on - they look ridiculous! Oh, and don't forget the required Harley tatoo - that just screams "I'm a badass!" And I'm pretty sure it's against some sacred oath to wear a helmet on a Harely - I think it's because they want everyone to see exactly who this bad ass is.... and wearing a helmet just wouldn't be 'cool' and any other type of protective gear would just default the whole badass image -- and that's the only real reason to own a harely, is for the look.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #14 July 22, 2003 Come on WB, dont keep it in... tell us how you really feel...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYEVOUT 0 #15 July 22, 2003 Pennsylvania just passed the "helmets optional" law. It's about time Darwin got a fair shake, he's got a lot of catching up to do. ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #16 July 22, 2003 LOL. substitute harley rider with skydiver and it makes about the same sense"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vid666 0 #17 July 22, 2003 not to be a dick, but for years that was countrered with "load pipes risk rights" ( I believe pretty much all 2001 issues of AMA had that campaign slogan ) ... Don't take me wrong, loud pipes rule, but just like some of the other posts, I prefer better tires, ABS, and other BMW ameneties :) peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #18 July 22, 2003 QuoteQuoteAround here, the quote is "loud pipes get removed". around here trying to remove someone's pipes might get your head removed... Yeah, here too. Never a lack of excitement. Watched a massive street brawl between a group of Irish and group of blacks last night down in S. Philly. No shots fired, I was suprised. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #19 July 22, 2003 While "simply knocking the baffles" out of your slip-ons will certainly make your skoot louder, you pay the price by losing a ton of bottom-end torque. Smarter business would be to buy a REAL set of pipes that sound good AND give you more power. I guess it all depends what you want your motorcycle to do. I laugh at the masses who waste their money on fat Samson pipes and especially old "fifty dollar drag pipes." Pulling the baffles out of fat drag pipes is incredibly stupid on the performance side; your bike NEEDS back pressure. Personally, I have been running Bubs "Bad Dogs" two into two performance pipes for the past seven years. They rule in terms of real power production. Vance and Hines Pro Pipes make equal power, but they are incredibly ungainly and drag on everything when you turn right. Hooker makes a totally tunable two into one that makes great power as well, but I am still a total ThunderHeader fan when it comes to two into one pipes. Incredible sound AND fantastic performance. My sled: 87 FXLR, boyce Pro Street engine offset kit and wide swingarm, currently running a 190 out back, 10,000 pound Tsubaki racing chain cause I ain't no poseur with a fat tire and a skinny belt. Still only a 30-over 80-incher, but Tilley heads shaved .070, Manley Black Diamond valves, Keith Black 10,5:1's up top. Super E with a Thunderjet, Crane Hi-4 race ignition, Bub Bad Dogs, Andrews first and third gears, Barnett Brute Force clutch with steel hub, M6 tensioner. I ain't sucking. Very, very low; quite long with a 38 degree rake and a 2001 springer front end; very fast. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #20 July 22, 2003 QuoteThe great part is, I set car alarms off in parking lots all the time now! Why is there no eye-rolling smiley? As for loud pipes...whatever. I'm in the "they piss non-bikers off enough to hate all motorcyclists so they try to take away our rights" camp. s'okay, though, I'm sure you'll appreciate your loud pipes when you're broken down on the side of the road and I pass you at 120.... And loud pipes are no match for good defensive driving skills. Shit, people on cell phones in their hermetically-sealed SUVs can't hear trains at crossings, what makes you think they'll hear you? Man, I sure had a great time last weekend, walking down Cannery Row in Monterey and seeing nothing but sport bikes lining both sides of the street. A sort of "anti-Daytona", if you will. One guy rode down the street on his Harley with loud pipes, and all he got were disdainful looks. Gimme the growl of a Ducati over loud Harley pipes any day!Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindcake 0 #21 July 22, 2003 Just remember to take it in and have it Dyno tested so they can make sure the air fuel ratio is correct or you may cause problems in the future (yes I know what I am talking about). The carb may need to be re-jetted again(I assume you did that when you put the pipes on the first time). and Congrats...nothing sounds better than a Harley when it's running right Don´t belive the hype Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bill2 0 #22 July 22, 2003 My sled: 87 FXLR, boyce Pro Street engine offset kit and wide swingarm, currently running a 190 out back, 10,000 pound Tsubaki racing chain cause I ain't no poseur with a fat tire and a skinny belt. _________________________________ Chuck, I don't think anyone here thinks you're a poseur. Although I have been to a number of Harley rallies awhile ago, and there were plenty there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bill2 0 #23 July 22, 2003 I'm thinking anti-lock brakes might be more effective. Like on my Bimmer.... (Caution flamers: Sangiro rides BMW with anti-lockTongue) Plus there's that whole power and handling thing without having to spend a zillion dollars on the aftermarket. _____________________________ Yup, those ABS do come in handy, I've got a Bimmer too, R1150 GS. Decent power and great handling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #24 July 22, 2003 Quote(Caution flamers: Sangiro rides BMW with anti-lockTongue) anti-lock Tongue? Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #25 July 22, 2003 setting off car alarms was & is one of my favorite past times... full Jardine exhaust = really really loud you can see a good mile of sound when you do a 3rd gear poweband rip up the road.. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites