Hurricane 120 to learn swooping

[tistouta 0]

Hi guys,

In the process of learning swooping, I am thinking about my next gear (not before ~100 more jumps on my current gear).
~500 jumps, 160 lbs

I'm jumping today with Hurricane 135, and I like it a lot.
I've done 90° turns for a few hundred jumps, I'm now in the 180° (I hate them), and will soon start 270°s.

What would you advise as next gear: same canopy, downsized, or a more modern profile such as a Xfire, or Katana (or anything else that you would recommend);

Thx for your help!

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

If I recall correctly a Hurricane is very similar to a Stiletto; very responsive to toggle inputs with a very short recovery arc. If you really want to focus on canopy piloting I would suggest you sell your canopy right now and pick up a Sabe2 or Safire2. Keep the same wing loading. This will give you a slightly slower canopy that swoops better (ie longer recovery arc). This will give you a much better platform to learn on. I put about 2000 jumps on a Stiletto. When I went to a longer recovery arc canopy, a Samurai, I really had to step back and 'unlearn' a lot. My sight pictures would amount to sudden death under my new gear and so I completely lost that tool. Learning to fly a less aggressive canopy in a more aggressive fashion is both safer and more useful in the long run.

[chris74 0]

Hello,
I load one at 1.9 and the recovery arc is not really short !
Take it for what that's worth
Be safe
Chris

[Andrewwhyte 1]

You load a Hurricane? Not short compared to a Katana? Compared to a Sabre 2?
I loaded my Stiletto at 1.7-1.9 (depending on my weight) and started my 270s at around 480 ft. I now start my 270s under my Samurai (1.9-2.0) at just over 800 ft. Would you say you start closer to 480 or 800?

[Abedy 0]

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I load one at 1.9
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Be safe
Chris

Looking at your profile I see two possibilities:
- you forgot to update your profile (jump number esp.)
- there's an inconsistency between your "Be safe" and your WL/jump#-relation.
I guess (and hope) it's the first possibility.

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[Joellercoaster 6]

You would also notice from his profile that he owns two Sigma tandem rigs (and indeed, his usual main is a 360). That would tend to point one in the right direction when pondering your question

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[Abedy 0]

Silly me, I didn't actually look up his profile but only relied on what is being displayed next to his name. So my assumption is confirmed
Anyway, the jump number should be updated.

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[ianmdrennan 2]

It's the exact canopy I started to really learning swooping on.

It had a moderate recovery arc (long for the time) and was fun to fly. Mine opened like total shit though - that canopy beat me like a red headed stepchild - every jump for 400 jumps.

I do think there are better options in todays market, but if it's what you want (or have available) it'll do just fine. What's more important is that you get a good mentor and/or training.

Blues,
Ian

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[tistouta 0]

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I do think there are better options in todays market, but if it's what you want (or have available) it'll do just fine. What's more important is that you get a good mentor and/or training.

Blues,
Ian

What would you recommend then? I won't be jumping with a 120 before a few months, so i ave time!

[5.samadhi 0]

honest question: what exactly do you find holding you back from swooping on your sabre2?

Again, thats an honest question...not a loaded one please do not read into it! Just curious what you think since Im transitioning from a sabre1 to a sabre2 (and I have in the back of my mind someday progressing away from doublefront approaches toward 90 degree carving approach).