jonathan.newman 1 #1 December 18, 2011 What is the difference between "E" thread and commercial designations V69 and V70? Are they all just bonded nylon thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 December 19, 2011 "E" is the MilSpec for the thread. #69 is the same basic thread but has not been certified for the MilSpec. I've bought #69 in colors I can not find "E" Thread in for things like Freefly tubes and other items.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #3 December 19, 2011 Quote What is the difference between "E" thread and commercial designations V69 and V70? Are they all just bonded nylon thread? Here is everything you may need to know about thread on one website. I buy a lot of thread from these guys and it is always great quality thread. http://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TTE&Category_Code=nylon-thread-information Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 28 #4 December 23, 2011 quite interesting - thanks The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonathan.newman 1 #5 January 24, 2012 I found another source for #69 thread. Coats and Clark sells #69 as "Heavy Duty Upholstery" thread. It does not say this on the spool or website, but I got the info directly from the manufacturer. Many local fabric stores sell this brand. I found it at Fabricland in Canada. The spools are only 150yds, but if you really don't need 3500yds of pink, it's another option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #6 January 24, 2012 Joann Fabric sells it also. I just bought a spool to sew a new zipper on a jumpsuit. Good to know it's #69.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 January 24, 2012 You should only use these types of threads for non-certified repairs. The spools should be rust/brown in color to be the Extra Strong Upholstery thread that is equivalent to #69/E threads. My local JoAnns was selling Upholstery thread on White spools, this is not E thread strength and is much less.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #8 January 24, 2012 Quote You should only use these types of threads for non-certified repairs. Uhmmm... like a jumpsuite zipper? Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonathan.newman 1 #9 January 25, 2012 ...non-certified, like sewing a patch or tacking a line on a main. Anything I'd use on a reserve, I'd like to come with a certificate of conformity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #10 January 25, 2012 Quote...non-certified, like sewing a patch or tacking a line on a main. Anything I'd use on a reserve, I'd like to come with a certificate of conformity. Um.... that was sarcasm?? sorry. However, here is what I bought on Saturday to sew the zipper. That was before I read this post. edited to add... $1.25 at Joann Fabric with a 50% off coupon.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #11 January 25, 2012 Quote You should only use these types of threads for non-certified repairs. The spools should be rust/brown in color to be the Extra Strong Upholstery thread that is equivalent to #69/E threads. My local JoAnns was selling Upholstery thread on White spools, this is not E thread strength and is much less. I don't know if all Joann's are equal, but, the Plymouth, MN store had the white spools (which I almost purchased) but when I looked a little harder, they had the "rust/brown" spools on the top row in a variety of colors. So, does th at mean my zipper is leagal? Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonathan.newman 1 #12 January 26, 2012 @Phreezone and @Skyjumpinfool -- What is the brand of that red/brown spool? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #13 January 27, 2012 Quote @Phreezone and @Skyjumpinfool -- What is the brand of that red/brown spool? Coats & Clark.... see post 5 above. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdog07 0 #14 January 28, 2012 MEL do you know what size is Coats Dual Duty XP heavy, is it like 90 ?. thanks al"A peaceful heart leads to a healthy body; jealousy is like cancer in the bones ..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #15 January 28, 2012 Quote MEL do you know what size is Coats Dual Duty XP heavy, is it like 90 ?. thanks al It actually is about the same size or a little smaller than "E" or #69 thread. The attached link recommends a size 16 needle which is a little smaller than the the recommended #18 needle for "E" thread. http://www.coatsandclark.com/Products/Sewing/Threads/Dual+Duty+XP/XP+Thread+Advisor.htm Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #16 January 29, 2012 It looks like they're pretty limited on colors - not the gamut I was hoping for. http://www.joann.com/coats-clark-extra-strong-upholstery-thread-150-yd-many-colors/xprd1130538/#pro_colors _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #17 January 30, 2012 What color are you looking for... I can run over and see what they have on the self.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #18 January 30, 2012 I'd love Red, Purple, Turquoise, Blue - the common jumpsuit colors. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #19 January 30, 2012 BTW - I was digging around The Thread Exchange, and you can order 2 and 4 oz spools of legit 'E' thread. http://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TTE&Category_Code=nylon-thread-069 _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 January 31, 2012 I have ordered from these guys before and the mini cones are nice sized. The color chart is off so you might want to confirm the color prior t o making large orders since the "canary" was not much different than a beige color which is not what I thought it would be.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdog07 0 #21 February 3, 2012 how many people use Coats & Clark thread and do you have lent colging up the machine or airborne lint problem, I was ordering some needle from online wholesaler and she tell me use any thread except Coats & Clark because of lint colging problem,I use my machine inside the room where there is my office disk with computer and other electronic, last thing I need is lent problem."A peaceful heart leads to a healthy body; jealousy is like cancer in the bones ..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #22 February 4, 2012 "E" is a federal government size designation for thread. It is equivalent to Tex 70 or size 69. It is not a Mil spec at all, just a size. You can make the same size thread from cotton and still call it "E" size thread. Although in practice I've never seen anything other than bonded nylon thread referred to by this system of sizing. I'm guesing it is largely outdated. The MIL spec for nylon bonded thread for use in parachute manufacturing is Federal Standard V-T-295 Class A, Type 2. Superseded by A-A-59826. This is from the D.J. associates website where you can order real approved thread. In sizes including E, FF, 3 cord, and 5 cord. http://djassociates.thomasnet.com/viewitems/thread-nylon-thread/thread?&bc=100|1016 KenAlways remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
