Shotgun 1 #1 July 8, 2003 Oh how sad... poor little bull torturers getting gored by bulls... just makes me want to cry Yeah, it's just kinda hard to feel sorry for people who get their kicks by torturing animals... maybe they should try skydiving - an adrenaline rush without the bad karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #2 July 8, 2003 kinda funny! that'll be on "real tv" soon!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #3 July 8, 2003 Ole!!!__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #4 July 8, 2003 QuoteOne of the gored Americans, Al Chesson, 57, from Pittsburgh, Pa., spent a terrifying half-minute being thrown around in the narrow alley leading into the bull ring that marks the end of the run. How ironic, "Al ..Gored" -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 July 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteOne of the gored Americans, Al Chesson, 57, from Pittsburgh, Pa., spent a terrifying half-minute being thrown around in the narrow alley leading into the bull ring that marks the end of the run. How ironic, "Al ..Gored" LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #6 July 8, 2003 Honestly, I don't care about the bull's being "tortured." BUT it is very amusing seeing the newest candidates for the Darwin Awards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casie 0 #7 July 8, 2003 Ouch! That had to hurt.~Porn Kitty WARNING: Goldschlager causes extreme emotional outbursts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPsycho 0 #8 July 9, 2003 my personal favorite is the dude hunting and the elk proceeds to beat the crap outta him for about 2 minutes.........heh, now thats hunting _______________________________ HK MP5SD.........silence is golden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 July 9, 2003 Next you'll say that rodeo's are cruel to animals too... I don't understand some folks sometimes.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #10 July 9, 2003 Note To self: Don't ever do that.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #11 July 9, 2003 QuoteThe fiesta, famed for its all-night street parties, dates back to the late 16th century ..." This is exactly what I expected. This wasn't some kind of "cultural event" originally, it was a bunch of partiers who got drunk and said "Hey, this will be cool, we'll let these bulls out...". You know that is how it started. Ah, yes...the source of most great culture, pranks. I figure that there was a 14th century Italian college kid with the Venus de Milo statues arms in his backpack jumping into the back of a carriage yelling "Let's get out of here." Just as I suspected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #12 July 9, 2003 Quote"Hey, this will be cool, we'll let these bulls out...". Yup, and they wrote a flamenco song called "Who let the bulls out?" __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #13 July 9, 2003 QuoteNext you'll say that rodeo's are cruel to animals too... I don't understand some folks sometimes. I don't know how the rodeo animals are treated, but I'm pretty sure they're not tortured and killed at the end of the event for the spectators' entertainment... Sometimes it's hard to define "cruelty to animals" - I'm a meat-eater so I'm sure lots of people would give me a hard time about that (and I wonder about it myself sometimes)... but this "tradition" of the run of the bulls, followed by bullfighters stabbing them until they die a slow death, seems to fall in the obvious "cruel" category... Now I'm not actually an activist or anything... I was just having a laugh at the people getting hurt while they were participating in such a nasty activity... (yeah I'm sure a lot of whuffos laugh at us skydivers when we get hurt, but at least we're not hurting anyone - or anything - else) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #14 July 9, 2003 QuoteThis wasn't some kind of "cultural event" originally, it was a bunch of partiers who got drunk and said "Hey, this will be cool, we'll let these bulls out...". You know that is how it started. Hmmm... sounds like something a bunch of damn skydivers would do! (on a cloudy day ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dbriggs 0 #15 July 9, 2003 Rodeos are cruel my ass. California outlawed calf roping a long time ago. Damn tree hugging bunny humping hippies. What do they do during branding season.....hmmm......oh yeah they rope the calves. Come on....before long meat will be outlawed and if anyone looks at a cow the wrong way the hippie cops will arrest them. people people people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #16 July 9, 2003 Quote I don't know how the rodeo animals are treated, but I'm pretty sure they're not tortured and killed at the end of the event for the spectators' entertainment But torturing and killing lesser animals for entertainment is a NATURAL thing. Monkeys do it. Dogs do it, in fact, many predators do. Heck even fuzzy cute little kittycats do it... Never seen a cat just play with a mouse or bird for hours, then kill it and leave it lay? At least the bull fighters eat the bulls when they are done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #17 July 9, 2003 ah but the fact that the bull wins sometimes is what makes it even...of course they should probably be put out to pasture as a prize, instead we just turn them into leather and steaks.. i honestly believe you should be able to hunt anything you wish...in small numbers, with this spear. if we'd stuck to this rule there'd be far more animals and lots less humans in the first place, which would theoretically solve lots of 'problems' at once. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #18 July 9, 2003 QuoteAt least the bull fighters eat the bulls when they are done. Yup...this is how they TENDERIZE their meat, Ole!! __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #19 July 9, 2003 QuoteNever seen a cat just play with a mouse or bird for hours, then kill it and leave it lay? My cat usually eats the things it kills, and if it doesn't... well I'd like to think that humans are more intelligent than cats, but when it comes down to it I guess you're right... we're really not... We are pretty much on the same level as monkeys and dogs and cats (if not on an even lower level)... oh well, nevermind... torture anything you feel like, because it is NATURAL after all... Yeah, I'm gonna shut up and go eat some chicken now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #20 July 9, 2003 Quote Yeah, it's just kinda hard to feel sorry for people who get their kicks by torturing animals yeah but technically, the people who are just running from the bulls aren't the ones torturing them... and also, the bulls aren't usually "slowly stabbed to death." they are stabbed "lightly" a few times to get them angry, and then at the end, the bullfighters consider it a measure of skill to kill the bull as quickly as they can with one sword stab. still, I admit its not very pretty. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #21 July 9, 2003 I hope none of the people against bullfighting are people who like to go fishing. You know, where you drag the fish around the lake by a hook in its lip? Usually to attract fish, you impale a worm, or other small fish, on the hook first. A kind of preliminary cruelty to a smaller animal before torturing the larger one. Some people eat fish that has been caught, fileted, sanitized, and wrapped. This way, they don't have the moral qualms about the cruelty of fishing because others do it for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #22 July 9, 2003 fish arent quite so cute and furry...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WayneRATS 0 #23 July 9, 2003 hmm i don't like bull fighting i've heard they dope the bulls up so they don't even have a chance.. then the spikes and stiff.. it really isn't fair if it was a one on one match with it and the fighter THAT would be more entertaining..------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sneaky 0 #24 July 9, 2003 Funny read....this thread. Bottom line is..regardless of who what or where you are.This is Spanish Culture and you have too respect this.The Bullfight is for you or its not...If you dont like it dont watch it. I could make a list for every country where there is issues with Human rights.... peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #25 July 9, 2003 Quotei've heard they dope the bulls up so they don't even have a chance.. then the spikes and stiff.. it really isn't fair That's not true, bullfighting is about tradition, courage, pride and skills, no respetable bullfighter would allow that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 1 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
bch7773 0 #20 July 9, 2003 Quote Yeah, it's just kinda hard to feel sorry for people who get their kicks by torturing animals yeah but technically, the people who are just running from the bulls aren't the ones torturing them... and also, the bulls aren't usually "slowly stabbed to death." they are stabbed "lightly" a few times to get them angry, and then at the end, the bullfighters consider it a measure of skill to kill the bull as quickly as they can with one sword stab. still, I admit its not very pretty. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #21 July 9, 2003 I hope none of the people against bullfighting are people who like to go fishing. You know, where you drag the fish around the lake by a hook in its lip? Usually to attract fish, you impale a worm, or other small fish, on the hook first. A kind of preliminary cruelty to a smaller animal before torturing the larger one. Some people eat fish that has been caught, fileted, sanitized, and wrapped. This way, they don't have the moral qualms about the cruelty of fishing because others do it for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #22 July 9, 2003 fish arent quite so cute and furry...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #23 July 9, 2003 hmm i don't like bull fighting i've heard they dope the bulls up so they don't even have a chance.. then the spikes and stiff.. it really isn't fair if it was a one on one match with it and the fighter THAT would be more entertaining..------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 0 #24 July 9, 2003 Funny read....this thread. Bottom line is..regardless of who what or where you are.This is Spanish Culture and you have too respect this.The Bullfight is for you or its not...If you dont like it dont watch it. I could make a list for every country where there is issues with Human rights.... peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #25 July 9, 2003 Quotei've heard they dope the bulls up so they don't even have a chance.. then the spikes and stiff.. it really isn't fair That's not true, bullfighting is about tradition, courage, pride and skills, no respetable bullfighter would allow that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
