tbrown 26 #51 June 18, 2003 Oh yeah, I keep forgetting, today's turbo jump planes like to roll over and dive once they're empty. Wow, that would be messy. In general I think it's really cool that people are pulling higher than they used to. Whether it's snivel soft openings, the higher speeds of freeflying, or the widely accepted use now of AAD's, people are definitely pulling higher than in the old days. Twenty years ago 2 grand to 2500 was considered normal. I've always been happy to let it go around 2800'ish. The one time I had to chop a streamer, I was under my reserve around 1800, which was fine with me. But I'm still wondering about people who say they're nervous about pulling below 3500 ft. Something inside is saying, "c'mon people, it's about freefall, isn't it ?". Please don't get me wrong, I think 3 grand is wonderful. But somebody else in these Forums made a remark about AFF graduates "being afraid of jumping below 6 grand". I mean the ground is coming up whether you're at 3 grand or 6. People getting too nervous about 3 grand make me nervous, because I wonder what they're going to do. If you're OPEN above 2 grand, you're in great shape! I'm talking about your average freefall dive here, not a planned high opening to go on a date with your canopy. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crewkeith 0 #52 June 18, 2003 low 1000 high 10000 but know where you are gonna pull and do it. it is so cool when the guy out before you says 3500 and you see a canopy open at 7000 lovley day The skies are no longer safe I'm back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #53 June 18, 2003 people think you pull low when in the saddle at 2,000'? What up with that yo? A low pull to me is pulling below my intended pull altitude. Of course I pull by 3k. I'm the good looking dark skinned freeflyer with the pink, purple and blue Sabre 190 and 270 jumps. See yas this weekend. Jasonwww.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #54 June 18, 2003 Quote with the pink, purple and blue Sabre 190 it takes a real man to fly those colors! I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #55 June 18, 2003 lol...just trying to compensate for my machismo www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #56 June 18, 2003 in skydives i normaly are in the saddel by 2000ft while its the rule here in DK,i think its a fine alti,but not what i personly considder low Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geanky 0 #57 June 18, 2003 low 1500-2000 feet high 4500-5000 feet learn to fly in 3d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #58 June 19, 2003 LOW.....depends......high speed mal....1500Ft. Low speed....IE flying canopy but don't wanna land it....1000Ft. You'll live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #59 June 19, 2003 Thanks for the tip, but I may ad, that even then pilots sometimes forget on the way to altitude.!!!"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #60 June 19, 2003 low pull... low pull.. hmmm.. Would that be a handjob in the valley? chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindcake 0 #61 June 19, 2003 1700ft exit.....uuuuh yes....well i guess I lack the testicular fortatude to attempt that at this point in my career forgot to add that with my canopy a 1700 ft hop n pop may not give me enough time if i diddnt pack for it.. Lol, In fact if I diddnt pack for it I would pull silver below 1500 for sure Don´t belive the hype Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cuchulinn 0 #62 June 19, 2003 "Damn... I gotta get a new cutter for my Cypres ... AGAIN" = LOW "Damn... We really do have a small DZ down there!" = HIGH Just kidding... I've been thoroughly trained 2000 is absolute minimum.. and some DZ's do not want you pulling any higher than 3K, if so you need to report it to manifest. I'm still new but 3K is very comfortable to me. SMA#18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #63 June 19, 2003 Quote 1700ft exit.....uuuuh I got out at 1800 once. It was funny to have my time out SCREAMING when I put my head out the door. Not near as dangerous as my 2400Ft the same day. On that one I figured I had PLENTY of time to free fly. QuoteI'm still new but 3K is very comfortable to me. Me too!! and I have about 340 jumps so far. Don't think it will change either. 0 cut aways so far...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #64 June 19, 2003 low pulls eh? a long time ago i was pulling ast 2000 AGL and 1500 AGL, of course this is when i didn't know any better. my new harddeck is 1800 AGL, at this point and time, i will respest my hard deck. i love balloon jumps and bailing at 2500-2800 AGL, that's the shiznits! --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #65 June 20, 2003 QuoteNot in a public forum-let's just say that there are some very "friendly" trees at the Ranch. LMAO...You got that right!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #66 June 20, 2003 Are we talking pilot chute release or being in the saddle? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #67 June 20, 2003 To me, a low pull saddles you in after no snivel at 1800 or under. Unless you're on a big-way. It's still low then, but it's also part of the plans and instructions. A high pull depends on the load, but in the olden days dumping before 3000' was high unless you were a student. Now I'd put that at 4500'. Basically any pull that requires warning the pilot. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #68 June 20, 2003 QuoteMy definition: Low pull - Under 2000' oh shit i jumped under 2500-3000 few times with 3-5 seconds delay shittie country ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #69 June 20, 2003 Quote In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My definition: Low pull - Under 2000' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- oh shit i jumped under 2500-3000 few times with 3-5 seconds delay Once jumped out at 2000ft went 9seconds before i pulled my xfire99,but well i didnt have BASE gear at that timeAnd the ADD were off. from 3300ft i make 13-14seconds and are in the saddel at 2000ft(pro-track),this is done by a ff suit and total legal here Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #70 June 20, 2003 QuoteI wouldn't say I was experienced (I only have 43 jumps) AggieDave '02 ------------- Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags! BTHO t.u. Wow this is an olllld thread.. aggie with only 43 jumps?? Isn't that nut taking passengers now? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #71 June 20, 2003 I'm not even going to comment on what I consider to be a low pull anymore. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites