dueyssisters 0 #1 May 20, 2003 We want to thank those who posted messages of concern and for prayer for our brother Duane Wierenga- He is an extremely qualified and experienced diver- we are very proud of him. It is upsetting to see "Ron's" remarks- however perhaps Ron is not as experienced and lacks good insight. Please continue to pray, Duane is in critical condition with a severed spine and numerous other injuries. Help us all heal with your kind remarks about Duane Suz and Sue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #2 May 20, 2003 Hi... This might get better response if it were posted in Talk Back. That way, we can post our thoughts there without it being conflicting with the purpose of this particular forum. Thanks for coming here and posting. Edit to add: my prayers and thoughts, and hope are with Deuy, you and your family. Please let us know how we can help... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #3 May 20, 2003 Ron is very experienced and has incredible insight. I'm very sorry for what has happened, and wish Duane and Family only the best. Ron was only trying to gleen usable information from the situation at hand. Unfortunately, sometimes it's the only way we as skydivers can gain a better understanding of these unfortunate incidents.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #4 May 20, 2003 Duey is a great skydiver, and a integral part of Skydive the Rockies, I will keep him in my prayers, and wish him a speedy recovery. Duey's sisters, if you need anything, all you need do is ask."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 May 20, 2003 Yeah, but he could have used a whole LOT more tact when asking. Although we're conversing via the internet, folks need to remember that real people with real feelings are on the other side of their screen. That is something that folks that haven's spent a lot of time on the internet seem to forget sometimes.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #6 May 20, 2003 Maybe since I know Ron, It's easy for me to understand that there was no ill intent.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 May 20, 2003 QuoteYeah, but he could have used a whole LOT more tact when asking. We've all been guilty of that one, Dave. This is why I generally stay away from threads in the incidents forum regarding people I know - after getting the basic details I avoid opening the thread. I encourage others to do the same. It's hard to be objective about the causes of an incident when the person involved is someone you care about, and it's even harder to read speculation from others who probably don't even know the person involved. The discussion will go on with or without you and the facts will come out over time; why put yourself through more pain by reading anything other than the "official" report? My best wishes for a speedy recovery for Duey. Sunny and warm get well "vibes" on the way from California... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #8 May 20, 2003 Quoteand it's even harder to read speculation from others who probably don't even know the person involved. I agree, just that facts ...and after an official report, open it up for discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #9 May 20, 2003 QuoteI agree, just that facts ...and after an official report, open it up for discussion. Don't get me wrong. I think there's a place for speculation and discussion before the official report; many times that speculation gets information to someone who didn't have it and that could prevent the posting of a future thread in the incidents forum. I don't think it's a good idea for those who know the person involved to read the speculation - which is why I try to stay out of threads involving people I know and I encourage others to do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 May 20, 2003 I have written and deleted three different posts in response to the sisters. None, I decided, needed to be said by me. Bottom line here is that the incidents forum needs to be considered "the clinic", not "the church." I found nothing untoward in Ron Hill's post that deserved some of the flippant remarks it drew. Ron is, in fact, plenty qualified to ask the questions he did, so personal attacks on HIS qualifications are likewise uncalled for. This, the talkback forum, is where we send our wishes for a speedy recovery or condolences. That being said, I wish a speedy recovery to Duey and best wishes to his family. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #11 May 20, 2003 I think speculation, rumor and innuendo serve no purpose. I prefer the facts. Luv ya Bytch...let's say we just agree to disagree on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #12 May 20, 2003 ***bbarnhouse] colorado duey wierenga by SkymonkeyONE Post: I have written and deleted three different posts in response to the sisters. None, I decided, needed to be said by me. Bottom line here is that the incidents forum needs to be considered "the clinic", not "the church." I found nothing untoward in Ron Hill's post that deserved some of the flippant remarks it drew. Ron is, in fact, plenty qualified to ask the questions he did, so personal attacks on HIS qualifications are likewise uncalled for Quotethank you! I'm glad someone else could see it for what it was.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites joshjumps 0 #13 May 20, 2003 I'm sorry for your friend and pray for his recovery. However, your lack of information about Ron is apparent. He is very qualified and wanted answers to what he saw as a problem. Ron has always been very direct and that showed in his post but his question was valid. Again sorry for your friend and hope all goes well. josh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #14 May 20, 2003 Letss clarify something here. My response was to that of Bytch's. As someone that recently lost a friend, and posted the incident report as well as the official report;specualtion, innuendo and rumor didn't serve a purpose. My comments had nothing to do with the incident in Colorado. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #15 May 20, 2003 Quotein fact, plenty qualified to ask the questions he did He is a very qualified and knowledgable jumper. That I definately agree on.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nubain1 0 #16 May 20, 2003 Is there any further word on how Duey is doing?I just found out what happened last night.He was one of my AFF instructors.I have had the highest respect for him since I met him last Aug.I have always tried to listen to and glean any advice he had.I'm still in total shock over this. I've been thinking all day today if there is any kind of benefit or fundraiser we could do to raise money to help him out in this time of great need. Speedy recovery Duey,We all love ya, Brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites prepheckt 0 #17 May 20, 2003 PM me your email address, I"ll forward the email I got sent."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nubain1 0 #18 May 20, 2003 Thanks.Just got the mail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dueyssisters 0 #19 May 20, 2003 I am married to Du's brother Dan. Du is in critical condition with a severed spine, broken pelvis, shattered R femur, on a respirator, had both lungs filled with blood- has undergone many surgeries, he will not walk again. His brain CT is good. We, the family are in shock. Please pray for a miracle. The red cross has sent for his sons in Iraq and Korea. Sue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dueyssisters 0 #20 May 20, 2003 Thank you for your offer. I appreciate it. I don't know a lot about skydiving and have never been to this site. In fact, I am just trying to cope and did an internet search on Du and came up with this site. All I know at this point is that this hurts and I don't want to come off as slamming Ron. I'm sure he is a great skydiver. Just coping, just surviving.....thanks for your support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #21 May 20, 2003 Sending good vibesand prayers to you , your family and Du. Warm regards, B^2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #22 May 20, 2003 I am still coming to terms with this. Because I wasn't there, it doesn't seem real. I half expect to get one of Duey's discombobulated e-mails with a "Pepsi Generation" version just for me tacked on the bottom. Duey is a straight shooter. He always has that grin, regardless of what is going on around him, he never rattles or gets upset. He always thinks of others, especially his sons. Duey- recover quick, Pepsi quick.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dueyssisters 0 #23 May 20, 2003 Easy to see you know him well...abstract emails... random thoughts...it seems like a bad dream, doesn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #24 May 20, 2003 Yep, I read his e-mails a second time, thinking I just mis-read them, but no, that is how he wrote it. So I read it a third time to translate it.Like a nightmare, kinda like I'll get a call saying it was all a mistake and he is fine.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycat 0 #25 May 20, 2003 Hey I'm hooknswoop's girlfriend, If you guys need anything, if Sue or Fuse need anything just drop one of us a line. We will make sure it gets taken care of. Duey was definately considered family. *hugs*&*luv* KelliFly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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joshjumps 0 #13 May 20, 2003 I'm sorry for your friend and pray for his recovery. However, your lack of information about Ron is apparent. He is very qualified and wanted answers to what he saw as a problem. Ron has always been very direct and that showed in his post but his question was valid. Again sorry for your friend and hope all goes well. josh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #14 May 20, 2003 Letss clarify something here. My response was to that of Bytch's. As someone that recently lost a friend, and posted the incident report as well as the official report;specualtion, innuendo and rumor didn't serve a purpose. My comments had nothing to do with the incident in Colorado. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 May 20, 2003 Quotein fact, plenty qualified to ask the questions he did He is a very qualified and knowledgable jumper. That I definately agree on.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nubain1 0 #16 May 20, 2003 Is there any further word on how Duey is doing?I just found out what happened last night.He was one of my AFF instructors.I have had the highest respect for him since I met him last Aug.I have always tried to listen to and glean any advice he had.I'm still in total shock over this. I've been thinking all day today if there is any kind of benefit or fundraiser we could do to raise money to help him out in this time of great need. Speedy recovery Duey,We all love ya, Brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #17 May 20, 2003 PM me your email address, I"ll forward the email I got sent."Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nubain1 0 #18 May 20, 2003 Thanks.Just got the mail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dueyssisters 0 #19 May 20, 2003 I am married to Du's brother Dan. Du is in critical condition with a severed spine, broken pelvis, shattered R femur, on a respirator, had both lungs filled with blood- has undergone many surgeries, he will not walk again. His brain CT is good. We, the family are in shock. Please pray for a miracle. The red cross has sent for his sons in Iraq and Korea. Sue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dueyssisters 0 #20 May 20, 2003 Thank you for your offer. I appreciate it. I don't know a lot about skydiving and have never been to this site. In fact, I am just trying to cope and did an internet search on Du and came up with this site. All I know at this point is that this hurts and I don't want to come off as slamming Ron. I'm sure he is a great skydiver. Just coping, just surviving.....thanks for your support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #21 May 20, 2003 Sending good vibesand prayers to you , your family and Du. Warm regards, B^2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #22 May 20, 2003 I am still coming to terms with this. Because I wasn't there, it doesn't seem real. I half expect to get one of Duey's discombobulated e-mails with a "Pepsi Generation" version just for me tacked on the bottom. Duey is a straight shooter. He always has that grin, regardless of what is going on around him, he never rattles or gets upset. He always thinks of others, especially his sons. Duey- recover quick, Pepsi quick.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dueyssisters 0 #23 May 20, 2003 Easy to see you know him well...abstract emails... random thoughts...it seems like a bad dream, doesn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #24 May 20, 2003 Yep, I read his e-mails a second time, thinking I just mis-read them, but no, that is how he wrote it. So I read it a third time to translate it.Like a nightmare, kinda like I'll get a call saying it was all a mistake and he is fine.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #25 May 20, 2003 Hey I'm hooknswoop's girlfriend, If you guys need anything, if Sue or Fuse need anything just drop one of us a line. We will make sure it gets taken care of. Duey was definately considered family. *hugs*&*luv* KelliFly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
