jrjny 0 #1 March 22, 2012 I think I would pay several times what it is worth as far as market value goes. What say you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #2 March 22, 2012 I thought about answering....but I don't have one. I grew tired of feeding it cash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-S 0 #3 March 22, 2012 I'll sell you mine for $3450. Free shipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #4 March 22, 2012 QuoteI'll sell you mine for $3450. Free shipping. I can send you mine for $4350! Bidder bidder bidder up!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrjny 0 #5 March 22, 2012 geez what's next a groupon for used argus units? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #6 March 22, 2012 While I agree that the safety an AAD provides is priceless, I'm not willing to pay more than Dealer Cost + Reasonable comission. Look, just because it's 'worth it' doesn't mean I'm going to pay higher than a fair market value.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #7 March 22, 2012 Am I the only one who finds the options in the Poll funny? There is no option for less than current pricing. The second range is $1399. The third range is $999. The fourth range is $1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #8 March 22, 2012 Quote There is no option for less than current pricing. The second range is $1399. The third range is $999. The fourth range is $1. That would be under the thread titled "What's the least you'd pay for an AAD (if you have one)" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #9 March 22, 2012 I fly the Cyprus 2, I paid $1,500.00 USD for it. I will sometimes forget to turn it on, and sometimes I'll dissarm it myself, depending on the dive. I believe we all know no matter what kind of rig you fly etc...When you jump out of the jump ship, it may and could be the last sane thing you do. If your not willing to deal w/ that, quit.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrjny 0 #11 March 23, 2012 I doubt you'll catch any flak for saying that but I honestly can't say I've ever not looked at it less than 3x before putting on my rig. Wow. And not because I expect to need it but because it can open my reserve if it wants to...it better say 0. Agreed in general but the purpose of the question is to see if people would pay 3 or 4 grand for a CYPRES if it really was the expensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruleofpull 0 #12 March 23, 2012 As a noob, just curious... I get why you might forget to turn it on (oops?!)... but on what kind of jump would you disarm it? Crew? Do you plan on pulling low? Can't the altitude for it to fire at be adjusted? (I thought so, but now I'm not sure, and I don't own one)... Again, just curious. Edited to add: No matter what kind of jump, it's just a machine, and we have to accept the consequences of our own actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #13 March 23, 2012 Quote As a noob, just curious... I get why you might forget to turn it on (oops?!)... but on what kind of jump would you disarm it? Crew? Do you plan on pulling low? Can't the altitude for it to fire at be adjusted? (I thought so, but now I'm not sure, and I don't own one)... Again, just curious. Edited to add: No matter what kind of jump, it's just a machine, and we have to accept the consequences of our own actions. I have intentionally left mine off despite being a STRONG proponent of them. The ONLY times that come to mind were when I was going for a demo in an open cockpit aircraft with a pilot I knew had a habit of entertaining himself on the way to altitude if he thought we had enough time... NO more concerning thing than being in the middle of a wing-over at 1000' wondering if we had been high enough for it to arm or decending fast/far enough for it to fire. Old pilot, couldn't be told better. My choice was to turn it off when it was his turn to fly me... though I avoided him when I could. Fortunatley he retired shortly after that event and never had a jumper extracted. It was a mix of politics, safety and personal choice. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #14 March 23, 2012 Given the firing parameters of Cypres, Argus, or Even Vigil (let's not assume swoop mode here..) I have a hard time imagining when/why one would plan a dive that would put them at risk for AAD activation. Let's say worst case scenario - cloud base is 2k, you and your buddies get a load going, and you're skimming the bottom of the clouds for a low hop & pop. I have no problem exiting at 2k, but that would mean pulling immediatly and still have 1200' to drop below the required 73 feet/second by 800'.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #15 March 23, 2012 (not sure if you were replying to me, or in general...) I was not concerned about my planned altitudes once out (exit at 3,500'), but the aerobatics being performed on the way up in an open cock-pit aircraft where an extraction was a real possibility. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #16 March 23, 2012 NOpe, I was replying to Rweider - sorry.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Titanman2789 0 #17 March 24, 2012 No, you should not spend more than fair market value. By the time I need another new one, I could see them costing well over 2 grand, maybe even 3. And by that time jump tickets will probably be $40, in which case I'll only be jumping if I'm being paid for it. $100 for 2 jumps and 2 pack jobs will be a little ridiculous, but that's the way it goes. So most likely I'll never have to buy a new AAD again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #18 March 24, 2012 QuoteQuote There is no option for less than current pricing. The second range is $1399. The third range is $999. The fourth range is $1. That would be under the thread titled "What's the least you'd pay for an AAD (if you have one)" I think you really missunderstood that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 79 #19 March 24, 2012 If I "really" needed it, I would give everything that I have and go out and borrow more, if necessary! Since none of use have that opportunity, I would pay what ever the free market would charge for an electronic piece of equipment that is meant to open my reserve, if I'm not able or haven't opened my parachute above ~1,000 feet.Dano Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nealeod 0 #20 March 25, 2012 I would pay more than the current price of $1500. Throughout the lifespan of an AAD, thats only .34 cents a day. If I had to put a value of my life on paper, its more than the price of any AAD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #21 March 25, 2012 QuoteI would pay more than the current price of $1500. Throughout the lifespan of an AAD, thats only .34 cents a day. If I had to put a value of my life on paper, its more than the price of any AAD. Let's say that someone invents a magic safety device for automobiles, say, something that would envelope your entire body in a giant airbag inside an eggshell, and retract all protruding objects like the steering wheel, and it would do all this in a fraction of a second just an instant before an impending impact with an object. It's so effective that it will save your life and prevent serious injuries in any crash under 60 mph. The only problem is that it costs $10,000 to install. So, are you going to quit driving until you can afford to have this magic crash system installed in your car? Or, because of the cost, are you going to go ahead and continue to drive, knowing that 40,000 people per year die in traffic accidents, and assume the risk of driving as you are without it? After all, during the 6-year lifespan of that car, that's only $4.50 per day. Isn't your life worth $4.50? And what about all the people who can't afford that kind of expenditure, because they just don't have that amount of disposable income - should they be called "foolhardy" for not buying one of these magic safety devices? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #22 March 26, 2012 bravo my good man bravo i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruleofpull 0 #23 March 26, 2012 Thank you for the explanation. It was very helpful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #24 March 26, 2012 Quote If I "really" needed it, I would give everything that I have and go out and borrow more, if necessary! Since none of use have that opportunity, I would pay what ever the free market would charge for an electronic piece of equipment that is meant to open my reserve, if I'm not able or haven't opened my parachute above ~1,000 feet. An AAD does not open your reserve************SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 79 #25 March 26, 2012 Quote Quote If I "really" needed it, I would give everything that I have and go out and borrow more, if necessary! Since none of use have that opportunity, I would pay what ever the free market would charge for an electronic piece of equipment that is meant to open my reserve, if I'm not able or haven't opened my parachute above ~1,000 feet. An AAD does not open your reserve************I'm sure that you don't mean to, but with respect, playing with words (cut a closing loop better!) seems to occupy the time of many on this forum and does nothing to promote safety. Would you prefer that no one use an AAD? Sparky Dano Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
