nacmacfeegle 0 #26 April 17, 2003 "Now that's actually a good idea. " Actually, its the law on offshore oil rigs in the UK sector, every person has a grab bag in their cabin which contains the stuff I described, and spare ones are located around the rig if you need them. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #27 April 18, 2003 From the BASE zone: Firefly posted http://www.executivechute.com/products.html It's the parachute from the Ebay add. Edit: Wait till you see the video. It appears the hands and legs are bound to better brace for impact. -----------My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #28 April 18, 2003 "In the event that you have to use this device, it opens rapidly in 1.9 seconds to full inflation. The descent rate is approximately 1000 feet per minute. The fast descent is important so it gets you to the ground quickly. You will avoid floating around precariously on air currents. The chute has been tested from as low as 125 feet. The deceleration and landing results were very acceptable, and survivable. " 125ft...wow, check out the 'test drop' video, sub 5 seconds from step off to abrupt halt.....I sincerely hope PLF training is included.... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #29 April 18, 2003 Looks like effectively a 20' diameter round. I have one in my backup rig. One of the pictures makes it look like the apex is pulled down, which might reduce the descent a little. It'll land you good and hard, but I've stood mine up. Seems to be a new application for a glider/hang glider reserve. It doesn't look steerable, and there's no anti-inversion netting. I'd've thought anti-inversion netting would be good. Either way, it'll give the vast majority of people who own one a false sense of security. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #30 April 18, 2003 20 ft round doesn't sound all that much fun for most Hi Rise corporate types.....I certainly would not relish the thought of putting 200lbs + under a 20ft round. Not mention non steerable, landing more than likely on asphalt and concrete, dodging round lampposts, power lines, and normal urban clutter. "Either way, it'll give the vast majority of people who own one a false sense of security." That should really have a capital F for False.... Plus it will probably bog down EMTs with minor fractures and sprains. I think anyone putting their hopes in one of these really ought to try one under controlled circumstances. That way their sense of security would at least be realistic. My feeling is the risk doesn't warrant the expense of of these. Basic cost benefit analysis is likely to lean towards a much cheaper mitigation, for what is essentially an unlikely event. ---I hope.The site of 3000+ escape chutes being deployed (god forbid) under a similar scenario to 9/11 would be spectacular though. The current record for a mass civilian jump is 572 and that was impressive enough! -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #31 April 18, 2003 I'm wondering if anyone has thought about the repack cycle on one of these pups... Don't they need to be repacked every 120 days like reserves?I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #32 April 18, 2003 From the site, "It is required to be inspected and repacked periodically, generally every 3-5 years. " Which makes you wonder.... I'd expect the insurance people to insist on a yearly visual, as a minimum. Lets assume a 5 year repack cycle. Looking at say a large US city with, I'm guessing 2 million possible users who work above 200ft. Thats 400,000 reserve repacks a year. Work on 2,000 working hours a year, and 1 hour per repack and inspection, again I'm guessing. That means guaranteed work for 200 qualified parachute riggers per 'large city'. Maybe its not a bad thing. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base704 0 #33 April 18, 2003 QuoteThe site of 3000+ escape chutes being deployed (god forbid) under a similar scenario to 9/11 would be spectacular though. The current record for a mass civilian jump is 572 and that was impressive enough! I think that what we're lookin' at is a situation where the end result would be the same body count with more identifiable corpses...You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragontail 0 #34 April 18, 2003 Of course the one on e-bay looks like someone took a camelback and added a few more straps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #35 April 18, 2003 We will soon see if this is a scam or not. I emailed the company about there system. I asked to see a video of there product in action, with a live body under it of course! I'll let everyone know if they respond and what they say. I also asked about there certs. I bet they don't respond.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites