rhino 0 #1 April 11, 2003 Dear Civilians, We know that the current state of affairs in our great nation have many civilians up in arms and excited to join the military. For those of you who can't join, you can still lend a hand. Here are a few of the areas we would like your assistance: 1) The next time you see an adult talking (or wearing a hat) during the playing of the National Anthem ... kick their ass. 2) When you witness firsthand someone burning the American Flag in protest kick their ass. 3) Regardless of the rank they held while they served, pay the highest amount of respect to all veterans. If you see anyone doing otherwise, quietly pull them aside and explain how these Veterans fought for the very freedom they bask in every second. Enlighten them on the many sacrifices these Veterans made to make this Nation great. Then hold them down while a Disabled Veteran kicks their ass. 4) (GUYS) If you were never in the military, DO NOT pretend that you were. Wearing battle dress uniforms (BDU's), telling others that you used to be Special Forces," and collecting GI Joe memorabilia, might have been okay if you were still seven. Now, it will only make you look stupid and get your ass kicked. 5) Next time you come across an Air Force member, do not ask them, "Do you fly a jet?" Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. Such ignorance deserves an ass kicking (children are exempt). 6) If you witness someone calling the U.S. Coast Guard non military, inform them of their mistake...and kick their ass. 7) Roseanne Barr's singing of the National Anthem is not a blooper...it was a disgrace and disrespectful. Laugh, and sooner or later your ass will be kicked. 8) Next time Old Glory (U.S. flag) prances by during a parade, get on your damn feet and pay homage to her by placing your hand over your heart. Quietly thank the military member or veteran lucky enough to be carrying her...of course, failure to do either of those could earn you a severe ass kicking. 9) What Jane Fonda did during the Vietnam War makes her the enemy. The proper word to describe her is "traitor." Just mention her nomination for "Woman of the Year" and get your ass kicked. 10) Don't try to discuss politics with a military member or a veteran. We are Americans and we all bleed the same regardless of our party affiliation. Our Chain of Command, is to include our commander in Chief. The President (for those who didn't know) is our CIC regardless of political party. We have no inside track on what happens inside those big important buildings where all those representatives" meet. All we know is that when those civilian representatives screw up the situation, they call upon the military to go straighten it out. The military member might direct you to Oliver North. (I can see him kicking your ass already.) 11) "Your mama wears combat boots" never made sense to me ... stop saying it! If she did, she would most likely be a vet and therefore, could kick your ass! 12) Bin Laden and the Taliban are not communists, so stop saying "Let's go kill those Commie's!!!" And stop asking us where he is!!!! Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me ... if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers; let me know, so I can go kick their ass. 13) Flyboy (Air Force), Jar Head (Marines), Grunt (Army), Squid (Navy), etc., are terms of endearment we use describing each other. Unless you are a service member or vet, you have not earned the right to use them. That could get your ass kicked. 14) Last but not least, whether or not you become a member of the military, support our troops and their families. Every Thanksgiving and religious holiday that you enjoy with family and friends, please remember that there are literally thousands of sailors and troops far from home wishing they could be with their families. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices they make every day. Without them, our country would get its ass kicked. "It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." Authored by: Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #2 April 11, 2003 I specially like point 14. That is why I make sure a wife of a Navy Officer is not lonely while he is performing his duties. One could say I am fighting on the home front jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #3 April 11, 2003 The last four sentences (those inside quotation marks) are certainly by Father O'Brien. Are you sure he authored the rest? The sentiments do not seem consistent, and the rest is not in quotes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #4 April 11, 2003 Disclaimer Not all Marines advocate kicking civilian ass at the drop of a hat, including flag burning. later __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #5 April 11, 2003 LOL You a Marine I assume? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slink2 0 #6 April 11, 2003 Yeah, those who were drafted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #7 April 11, 2003 Was.... Disclaimer: I was a 08 reservist. Closest I came to deployment was Gulf War and some stuff with N Korea in 94 time frame... Got a couple NAMs, good cookie, blood stripes, etc... Spent first Gulf War in Ft Sill, OK in training watching the war on CNN with everyone else. But yes, having known a lot of very smart folks in boot camp who went onto become 03s in the fleet (and having dicussed it with them in boot), it is safe to say that not everyone regards flag burning as the sin of all sins... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #8 April 11, 2003 Being a vet of the Navy myself and having a father in the SEALS Id like to make a few comments. Anybody that is protesting the war and is sitting around not doing shit to make anything better or is out in front of the whitehouse with signs that say Anti-War burning the American flag and saying demeaning things toward the CIC and the Country I have only one thing to say to all of them. "If you don't fuckin' like it here then get the fuck out!" As for people like that piece of shit that threw a grenade into the tent and injured and killed some of his fellow soldiers I say an eye for an eye set him before a MILITARY TRIBUNAL. Make him suffer. For the pain he caused those soldiers as well as the pain that there families are now in due to that. Kill him and do it slowly. Traitors deserve to die. I hope this all ends soon. - GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 April 11, 2003 Not the sin of all sins, but one that pisses a lot of vets off. Then again, that's only my first reaction I think the fact that one is able to do so proves how free a nation we really are. It's the protestors' right to burn the flag, and my right to have contempt for them. Rhino - loved the letter. Kick ass. Wasn't there a state somewhere that made it a US$20 fine for kicking the shit out of a flag-burner? VINNY THE ANVILVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #10 April 11, 2003 I don't get it.... Aren't military folks protecting every US citizen's right to protest? Why should they have to get the fuck out? Never subscribed to "America, love it or leave it." I don't see how you jump from the protesters to some asshole fragging a bunch of 101st guys like they are the same thing(I do agree that that fucker needs to pay). Not the same thing at all... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #11 April 11, 2003 >Anybody that is protesting the war . . .I have only one thing to say to >all of them. "If you don't fuckin' like it here then get the fuck out!" Hmm. I was at a protest a few months ago. Two of the people with the "veterans against war" group were disabled vets in wheelchairs. Would you really go up to a disabled vet and tell him to "get the fuck out" of your country? Seems a bit disrespectful, when you're talking to someone who gave their legs for their country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #12 April 11, 2003 Bill: you just blew that totally out of proportion. Im referring to the ones that are Burning the American flag. Now how disgraceful is that to the ones that gave their legs for this country? Now you get where I was going?- GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #13 April 11, 2003 Baby, one of the people you so kindly request to leave might get a bit offended and blast your brains out with a loaded gun. Be humble...you might keep your teeth where they belong jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #14 April 11, 2003 >Im referring to the ones that are Burning the American flag. I agree there. Although technically protected I think flag burning shows a tremendous amount of disrespect towards our military (and indeed americans in general.) I'm glad the people we were with had more class than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #15 April 11, 2003 >you might keep your teeth where they belong. Cut it out. A smiley does not make a threat like that OK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #16 April 11, 2003 I spent four years in the Marine Corps. I have also burned several American flags in my life. I will do it again, happily. Burning is the preferred method of dignified disposal of the American colors. For more information about the flag, clickey. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #17 April 11, 2003 Speaking of the flag, (it may have been mentioned but i didn't see it) was anybody else about to jump the fuck out of their skin when my fellow Marine placed our colors over the head of Saddam yesterday? Upsidedown! I thot I was gonna fucking have a heart attack. I am not that old, well, maybe. But still. I wanted to go there kick his ass and the ass of the person who handed him the flag, and the ass of the drill instructor who let such a dumbass cross the parade deck. Maybe he thot that was cool and patriotic and maybe someday they would put up a statue of him near Arlington National Cemetary, but I was just repulsed by his poor judgment. Oh, btw, no more flags are allowed to be displayed anywhere in Iraq since at least one other person in a position high enough to do something about it felt the same way I did. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 April 11, 2003 I've been apart of the retirement of a flag ceremony before. Very patriotic, very dignified. It wasn't some fuckhead long haired pot smoking hippy light'n it up and kicking it. <---gets very emotional and very pissed off when he sees people disgracing the flag.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #19 April 11, 2003 <---gets very emotional and very pissed off when he sees people disgracing the flag. As do I. I hate it when I see that. I feel like most people in this country who do it are ignorant of how good we have it here and how much good (in general) this country has done.... However, much like not liking KKK guys parading around in sheets talking a lot of bullshit.... I just grit my teeth and figure as long as no one is getting hurt by it.... nothing you can do.... it's their right.... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #20 April 11, 2003 I think flag-burning just shows how stupid people are. They paid money for something to destroy. The fact that they are destroying the American flag doesn't draw attention to whatever leftist cause they are promoting - it draws the ire of Americans everywhere (especially Vets). In the future, if you see someone burning a flag, throw them some Advil. If they ask why, respond "Because it must HURT to be that stupid!" I think that the vast majority of Americans who burn the flag are either dumber than rocks(no offense to rocks) or have been misled by leftist professors on our college campuses. If one looks at all of the good the US has done throughout the past couple of centuries it's pretty damn humbling in many respects. Yours in suds, THE ANVILVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #21 April 11, 2003 Oh God. How can you get away with telling everyone to kick everyone elses ass. I guess that means that every tourist in your country just got his or her ass kicked for not putting their hand over their heart for your anthem. Talk about personal attacks. It's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #22 April 11, 2003 Quote Oh God. How can you get away with telling everyone to kick everyone elses ass. I guess that means that every tourist in your country just got his or her ass kicked for not putting their hand over their heart for your anthem. Talk about personal attacks. Don't worry - it's apparent that the individual who wrote the first 13 points was quite unaware of the actual meaning of "freedom". Freedom means that you can exercise your fundamental rights without having a marine kick your ass. The members of the US military that I know are better educated than to write juvenile stuff like that. I SERIOUSLY doubt that Father O'Brien wrote the first part of the message. .... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misterhand 0 #23 April 11, 2003 Quote Being a vet of the Navy myself and having a father in the SEALS Id like to make a few comments. Anybody that is protesting the war and is sitting around not doing shit to make anything better or is out in front of the whitehouse with signs that say Anti-War burning the American flag and saying demeaning things toward the CIC and the Country I have only one thing to say to all of them. "If you don't fuckin' like it here then get the fuck out!" As for people like that piece of shit that threw a grenade into the tent and injured and killed some of his fellow soldiers I say an eye for an eye set him before a MILITARY TRIBUNAL. Make him suffer. For the pain he caused those soldiers as well as the pain that there families are now in due to that. Kill him and do it slowly. Traitors deserve to die. I hope this all ends soon. i hate this kind of thing really. i agree with some of his sentiment, i too am sick of the whining weak who think if they yell loud enough the world will obey them. while you're out protesting im out earning a living and making what i want happen for me. the tent grenade guy really needs to be made an example of. if there was any suitable punishment short of medieval torture id say have at it. but this rant is disturbing. i'm 100% behind our troops, these are the people we work with and went to school with out there...but this sounds like jackboot polishing time. over the line. get the fuck out? hmm. next youll offer the use of cattle cars and temporary "relocation camps" for the dissidents and misfits eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #24 April 11, 2003 Burning the flag offends the hell out of me, too. But I'm not going to kick someone's ass over it (well maybe if I had a few too many ). Did get in a heated argument with an ex-girlfriend once when she pulled out her American flag beach towel, threw it on the ground and laid down on it. Hell, I get offended by people 5 times a week, but I'm not going to punch all of them. That's just stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #25 April 11, 2003 I hope the aliens from Planet Zed will come and by means of their death rays kill ALL involved in the Iraq war. By ALL I mean every single person in the area. This way the conflict will be resolved peacefully, the war will be over and the unemployment problem in the united states will be solved due to a sudden disapearance of several hundred thousand of military personnel. We can then give what currently is Iraq to the Pallestinians, thus solving the core of the middle east problem. I would also like the aliens from Planet Zed to annihilate all my hot headed collegues who want to kick ass. I will personally contact the friendly aliens and inform on the whereabouts of a Zedian dissident hiding on Earth under the name of Billvon. Let them take him back, try him and torture him to oblivion. I will also suggest that they blackmail the government into making Ketchup one of the basic food groups and legalizing weed and cocaine in pure form.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
