Here we go again...

[stylin 1]

Chris-

I know that you have a habit of reading too much into things at times and I think that may be the case with this. I appriciate the links but I really have no interest in sky diving. A good friend of my family cured that along time ago. You see he was a paratrooper in Vietnam and things went all wrong. I have no desire to kill myself at 1300 ft. I would much rather die at the hands of King Triton.
-J

I knew it. So thats the reason why she decided to date a "tennis player", there it is. It all happened right when I told her I went skydiving the first time. If she would at least take the first jump she would see that this is a sport, this isnt Vietnam. She said she was considering it at one time.

I didnt understand it at first, but after reading several posts on this forum, the way she is behaving is starting to all pan out. Its the same damn thing the others were saying.

Shes' a 22 year old surfer chick in Jacksonville, athletic trainer, now going for her MBA. So maybe the story now is, cop out of sports and become an office drone married to a tennis player? Sorry baby, been there, done that, wasnt impressed with it back then, not impressed with it now.

I cant talk to her any more. I was hoping I could get her to participate on this forum so maybe some of the others can drill some sense into her head. She just doesnt want to listen.

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I cant talk to her any more. I was hoping I could get her to participate on this forum so maybe some of the others can drill some sense into her head. She just doesnt want to listen.

Take no offense Stylin, but at one point you wouldn't here any of us. You just couldn't understand us. You had to experience what we were talking about first hand before you could understand. It sounds like your friend has a little psycological trauma due to the death of a friend of her family in vietnam, and that shit's not easy to get over. Some people will NEVER skydive, and that's OKAY.

[beowulf 1]

Skydiving scares the shit out of a lot of people. Many people give excuses rather then admit it scares them.

[stylin 1]

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I cant talk to her any more. I was hoping I could get her to participate on this forum so maybe some of the others can drill some sense into her head. She just doesnt want to listen.

Take no offense Stylin, but at one point you wouldn't here any of us. You just couldn't understand us. You had to experience what we were talking about first hand before you could understand. It sounds like your friend has a little psycological trauma due to the death of a friend of her family in vietnam, and that shit's not easy to get over. Some people will NEVER skydive, and that's OKAY.

Her family affects the way she thinks, I think its comming from them, again. It looks like this is another one of her dads stories in an attempt to keep her away from me. Yea, I want to pull her away from her family and he knows it. And why not? I dont want to be with her family, I want to be with her, and told her that.

See, whoever is going to marry her has to marry her family too. They like the tennis player, he doesnt do things like skydive, he isnt "crazy".

Lets talk about cutting away. She is 22, getting older, she has to cut away sometime. Isnt it getting about that time? Ive exhausted every single thing I could think of, what does it? I dont know.

[loughery 0]

Say goodbye to her because eventualy all your friends that dont skydive will eigther be so tired of listening to you talk about skydiving or you wont remember who they are because your priority will be the DZ.

Everyone goes through this.

Tell your friends that you can be found on sunny days at the DZ. They will get the hint. I learned a long time ago not to try to talk someone into trying it but you can say how fun it is and leave it up to them.

PS. I am still jealous of your long Skydiving Season in AZ.

TOT

TOT
www.SkydiveMoncton.com

To my wife: 'If you ask me to stop skydiving, you are asking me to move out!'

[dreamsville 0]

Assuming nothing else was going on, she's either scared skydiving will muscle her life style, or like the other one said, she has a deep-seated bad memory about friend's Vietnam death that your beginning to jump sparked to the surface.

Sad. You obviously thought a bunch of her. Best wishes.

I have found that of anyone I have dated, only one made a jump, and I think (ha, such ego), it may have been because of me. Others were not at all off put about my jumping, except that they're not planning on seeing the inside of an Otter any time soon (read, lifetime).
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I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane.

Harry, FB #4143

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Assuming nothing else was going on, she's either scared skydiving will muscle her life style, or like the other one said, she has a deep-seated bad memory about friend's Vietnam death that your beginning to jump sparked to the surface.

Could also be that him jumping made for an easy, "don't want to hurt him" excuse to end whatever may have been going on between them.

[dreamsville 0]

Now that you mention it, that may be at least as likely as anything. However, as valid as that may be in human nature, I still think it's a cop out on her part if it's true. She doesn't have to care, though, and it's moot now anyhow.
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I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane.

Harry, FB #4143

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Assuming nothing else was going on, she's either scared skydiving will muscle her life style, or like the other one said, she has a deep-seated bad memory about friend's Vietnam death that your beginning to jump sparked to the surface.

Sad. You obviously thought a bunch of her. Best wishes.

I have found that of anyone I have dated, only one made a jump, and I think (ha, such ego), it may have been because of me. Others were not at all off put about my jumping, except that they're not planning on seeing the inside of an Otter any time soon (read, lifetime).
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Yea, youre right, I loved that girl like you cant even imagine. I never fall for someone like that, but she was a special person when I first met her. The sad thing is, she isnt the same person, and that girl I knew is gone. Talked to her on the phone yesterday, and her tone wasnt the same. She isnt the same.

I just want to find one girl who isnt going to change on me like that, just one. Not 50, or 100, in a world of millions, just one.

I think you may have something there on the first point. Now that I think of it, when I was talking to her on the phone yesterday, her tone kind of brightened up when I said I was going surfing next week, and kind of flattened out when I started talking about skydiving. Before that she started telling me I was crazy for continuing on with skydiving. The distance and her family were one thing, but it looks like that turned out to be the end-all kicker.

[loughery 0]

I left my girlfriend when I first started skydiving because she was jealous of how much time i wanted to spend at the DZ.

I have since met a girl and got married. She is great, She gladly drops me off at the DZ gates on saturday morning and picks me up Sunday night.

TOT

TOT
www.SkydiveMoncton.com

To my wife: 'If you ask me to stop skydiving, you are asking me to move out!'

[stylin 1]

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Say goodbye to her because eventualy all your friends that dont skydive will eigther be so tired of listening to you talk about skydiving or you wont remember who they are because your priority will be the DZ.
PS. I am still jealous of your long Skydiving Season in AZ.
TOT

Ive said goodbye to her about 100 times now, only to watch her talk me back into it. She is this blonde haired, blue eyed 22 year old chick with a real charming, outgoing personality that most guys cant shake loose of. Has had three serious boyfriends before me who all wanted to marry her, on the last one she put on the ring, said she felt weird, then gave it back to him. One of her friends told me that she has all these guys chasing her while there are girls who dont have anyone.

Shes still living with her family, sorority girl with all her friends. She kept telling me in the past she's afraid of heights (climbing a hill is a big deal to her) so I cant take her mountain climbing, doesnt like big waves. ect. I never could talk her into anything extreme, but she has the potential for it.

I just dont think the tennis player is going to last long, still think she is going to come to her senses sooner or later, once she decides to quit being afraid of everything and get out in the world. Her family interferes with her thinking alot, which is something I couldnt overcome. If she lived alone, I could talk her into things a little bit better.

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Could also be that him jumping made for an easy, "don't want to hurt him" excuse to end whatever may have been going on between them.

That is my bet. The only major mass tactical drop in VN was done by the 173rd in 1967. What are the chances that anyone under 60 knows someone on that jump? The Special Forces groups did some other smaller stuff. Jumping was rare in VN.

This sounds like a "friend of a cousin of a neighbor" excuse. Whatever the reason, the answer is no. He should let it go.

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Could also be that him jumping made for an easy, "don't want to hurt him" excuse to end whatever may have been going on between them.

That is my bet. The only major mass tactical drop in VN was done by the 173rd in 1967. What are the chances that anyone under 60 knows someone on that jump? The Special Forces groups did some other smaller stuff. Jumping was rare in VN.

This sounds like a "friend of a cousin of a neighbor" excuse. Whatever the reason, the answer is no. He should let it go.

No dont go there, prior to this, she is the one who started seeing someone else who her family liked, they didnt like me at all, especially her father who told me that he was trying to prevent us from getting together, ie live too far away, and I guess age difference but I dont know. I had a hard time getting her to accept living out west, like Florida is everything, she says she would never leave her family and friends. I said Id never live in Florida becasue I hate the place.

The goal was, if I got her to visit, take her to Cal, she would go back and change her mind. Her dad told her that, if she flys out here to see me, not to come back home.

A lot of things would change about her if I could just get her out here, get her away from her family. Had the same problem a long time ago with an exfiance who still was living with her parents. I couldnt pull her away, no matter how hard I try.

Remember, she told me one time, she was thinking about skydiving, but told me that is our seceret. This is comming from her family again. Her dad telling her, "Oh yea, distant relative, paratrooper in VN got hurt parachuting"....its just all bullshit, he doesnt like me and is trying to dig up whatever excuse he can to turn her off.

And he's doing it. He was telling her bad things about Arizona (comes out here for the Nascar races), like its too bright, suns too hot, ect. I never could figure out how to get past it, too frustrating.

On VN, my brother was a paratrooper there from 1969-71, then reenlisted in medical corps. Dont know the details of it though, maybe he was just in Airborne.

Youre probably right on your last statement, but I dont think Im going to find another like her, anywhere. Shes one of a kind.

[stylin 1]

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I left my girlfriend when I first started skydiving because she was jealous of how much time i wanted to spend at the DZ.

I have since met a girl and got married. She is great, She gladly drops me off at the DZ gates on saturday morning and picks me up Sunday night.

TOT

Man I need one of those!!!

[billvon 3,069]

>The goal was, if I got her to visit, take her to Cal, she would go
>back and change her mind.

Warning! Warning! Every single time I've seen a relationship where one person says something along the lines of "If they would only do X, Y and Z, things would be great" that relationship is doomed. People change, but they never, ever change like you want them to. If you can live with her the way she is, right now, then great. Stick with it and hope she doesn't change too much in the 'bad' direction If not, get out before you get any more involved, because it won't work.

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>The goal was, if I got her to visit, take her to Cal, she would go
>back and change her mind.

Warning! Warning! Every single time I've seen a relationship where one person says something along the lines of "If they would only do X, Y and Z, things would be great" that relationship is doomed. People change, but they never, ever change like you want them to. If you can live with her the way she is, right now, then great. Stick with it and hope she doesn't change too much in the 'bad' direction If not, get out before you get any more involved, because it won't work.

I think you just spelled out whats been happening for eight months now, I wont change, she wont change, thats a problem. The tennis player wont last, that one's the fifth. Not real involved with her right now, but just still talking and thats about it.

In the past, Ive given up meeting girls because of her, so Im thinking maybe just move on for now (she did), stay in touch and see what happens. Im not talking about months, Im talking about years, because it takes that long for her to make up her mind about anything.

[stylin 1]

Its 13000 baby, not 1300, looks like her dad got it all wrong again.

Talking about this just gave me an idea. I have a skydiving video showing formations, ect. someone sent me from EBay, its one of those things that take skydiving in a positive direction, as a sport, and not some maniac way to try to avoid suicide.

So if I send it to her, think she'll watch it? Or am I wasting my time again?


Or.....
I gave her the address to this forum. She says shes not inerested, but I wonder how interested she would be if I told her we were talking about her!!! On the other hand, knowing her, she might get pissed. It not like I mentioned her name here, however, we could be talking about anyone, even though we're not, we're talking about her.

[Cajones 0]

Should this thread be moved to "Talk Back?"

The laws of physics are strictly enforced.

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Should this thread be moved to "Talk Back?"

lol. i was just openning this thread with the intent of asking him, now that he's found some of the joy of flight, when he was going to learn which forum to post in?

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Should this thread be moved to "Talk Back?"

lol. i was just openning this thread with the intent of asking him, now that he's found some of the joy of flight, when he was going to learn which forum to post in?

Well, gee, I dont know. If I were to get her on here and yall were to talk her into skydiving, then it would belong in Skydiving. Fat chance of me even getting her to look at this site. Never know, knowing her she could be spying on us right now and I may be hearing about it tomorrow.

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Shes' a 22 year old surfer chick in Jacksonville, athletic trainer, now going for her MBA.

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On VN, my brother was a paratrooper there from 1969-71, then reenlisted in medical corps.

Hmmm...your brother was in VN in 69 ? To be 19 in 69, he would be born in 1950? He would be 53 now? You have a 53yo brother and you want to date a 22yo chickie? Maybe her parents have a point. This is getting to be an interesting story.

At this point in a story, I usually raise my watch.

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Skydiving scares the shit out of a lot of people. Many people give excuses rather then admit it scares them

I'm SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think I will ever be able to do it on my own because I freeze at the door...maybe I'll be doing tandems forever......ahhhhh well.

[happythoughts 0]

Last weekend, we had a woman do her 32nd tandem. I don't understand it. That's a lot of cash. She also wore white shorts and did a butt-slide landing. Nice green stripe.

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I'm SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was told when I started 10 years ago, and I tell everyone today....

"If your not scared, your stupid."

Everybody's scared. The difference is in how they deal with it.

BSBD
Larry

"Pull low and date your rigger's wife."

[wildblue 7]

Just kidnap her, and throw her out of your private jet at 30,000 feet.
Land near your base in mountains, get into your stash of classified weapons (from your time in SF) and take out any family members or law enforcement officials that came at you.
Don't forget to call the president from your sat phone, and explain to him the joys of diplomacy.
When all that's done, and she's seen the error of her ways - you can go back to your classified job of recovering lost nuclear material for the government.
Send me the notes, I'll take care of selling the movie rights for you.

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality