Ironic?

[peppermint 0]

Would it be 'ironic' if someone died on their birthday? What would it be if it isn't irony? I need several responses for a project I'm working on.

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[skymama 37]

Here are some examples from Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" song:

Ironic


An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn't it ironic... don't you think?

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think?

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face

A traffic jam when you're already late
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn't it ironic... don't you think?
A little too ironic... and yeah I really do think...

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[payback462 0]

actually it wouldnt be ironic, itd be coincidental.

[lawrocket 3]

Issue: is it "ironic" if someone dies on his/her birthday.

Rule: "Irony" is the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning.

Analysis:
A person dying on the birthday seems ironic, since "birthday" is a day of origin. However, the celebration of an origin is not necessarily incongruous with the end of life.

Conclusion:
No. I don't think it ironic. The executioner wishing "Happy Birthday" prior to throwing the switch is, I think, a better example of irony.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[CrazyIvan 0]

I think Skymama might get sued for posting COPYRIGHTED material

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[peppermint 0]

[Standing, applauding]

This is exactly the response I was looking for!

Thank you!

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[peppermint 0]

According to lawrocket's definition, the song ironic has no irony in it. Correct?

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[dzdiva 7]

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the song ironic has no irony in it

That would be right. It should be titled "Isn't it Unfortunate!"

"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..."

[PhillyKev 0]

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the song ironic has no irony in it

That would be right. It should be titled "Isn't it Unfortunate!"

Actually it should be, "Isn't this a crappy song"

[lawrocket 3]

There is irony in the Morrisette song. For example, when the man in the so-called perfectly good airplan said, "well, isn't this nice."

But, the song meets most people's definition of "irony," though not the textbook-type of definition that I used.

If the definition of irony were to be established as something where the the actual result of an act is not in accordance with the perceived result or actual expectations, then the song may be chock full of it.

But glad I could help in this philosophical exercise.
Law-ro-crates

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Vallerina 2]

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Actually it should be, "Isn't this a crappy song"

Blatant post whoring....

I do like that one song written about Dave Coulier, though! She sounds like an angry bitch in it!

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[CrazyIvan 0]

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Actually it should be, "Isn't this a crappy song

Even better, "Isn't this moronic?"

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Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.

[FliegendeWolf 0]

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I do like that one song written about Dave Coulier, though!

I was absolutely flabbergasted when I found out that that song was about Dave Coulier. I mean, come on Alanis, it's Dave Coulier!

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[skymama 37]

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I do like that one song written about Dave Coulier, though! She sounds like an angry bitch in it!

Dave Coulier, the dopey guy in "Full House"? LOL! What song did she write about him?

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[peppermint 0]

I haven't heard that either. She dated him? Which song?

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[BBKid 0]

I don't know what word to use for someone dying on their birthday, but try looking something up on Shakespeare. He died on his birthday (also St. George's day, for those of you who are interested).

Nick
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"I've pierced my foot on a spike!!!"

[dzdiva 7]

I think the title was "You Oughta Know".

"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..."

[peppermint 0]

John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day which just happened to be 50 years to the day from the birth of the country they founded.

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[skymama 37]

"You Oughta Know"....Oh yeah, I'd say she was a little pissed!

I want you to know that I'm happy for you
I wish nothing but the best for you both
An older version of me
Is she perverted like me
Would she go down on your in a theater
Does she speak eloquently?
And would she have your baby
I'm sure she'd make a really excellent mother

'Cause the love that you gave that we made
wasn't able to make it enough for you to be open wide, no
And every time you speak her name
Does she know how you told me you'd hold me
Until you died, 'til you died
But you're still alive

And I'm here to remind you
Of the mess you left when you went away
It's not fair to deny me
Of the cross I bear that you gave to me
You, you, you oughta know

You seem very well, things look peaceful
I'm not quite as well, I thought you should know
Did you forget about me Mr. Duplicity
I hate to but you in the middle of dinner
It was a slap in the face how quickly I was replaced
Are you thinking of me when you fuck her

'Cause the love that you gave that we made
wasn't able to make it enough for you to be open wide, no
And every time you speak her name
Does she know how you told me you'd hold me
Until you died, 'til you died
But you're sill alive

And I'm here to remind you
Of the mess you left when you went away
It's not fair to deny me
Of the cross I bear that you gave to me
You, you, you oughta know

'Cause the joke that you laid in the bed that was me
And I'm not gonna fade
As soon as you close your eyes and you know it
And every time I scratch my nails down someone else's back
I hope you feel it...well can you feel it

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[dzdiva 7]

I think she needs to tell us how she really feels!!

"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..."

[peppermint 0]

she wrote that for the guy on full house? yuck!

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[meatmissile 0]

Example: An anvil is ironic. My parachute is not ironic.

So, something is ironic when it is mostly made out of iron .

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[meatmissile 0]

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It's a free ride when you've already paid

And I always thought that she sang "It's a free ride on Enola Gay"

Thanks for clearing that up for me !

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[peppermint 0]

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It's a free ride when you've already paid

And I always thought that she sang "It's a free ride on Enola Gay"

Thanks for clearing that up for me !

That is so funny!

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[flyhi 24]

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Post: I think the title was "You Oughta Know".

Wasn't that the song that made every 12-year old boy want to take her to the movies?

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