wildblue 7 #1 March 31, 2003 Someone please tell me this is a cruel April Fools joke... http://www.aopa.org/it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,457 #2 March 31, 2003 It doesn't look like it; there are pictures, and it's on the Tribune website too. I guess Daley figured that if it was already done, and he had enough power, it's OK. Better to ask forgiveness than permission if you think it's really right, and all that. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #3 March 31, 2003 How can you just tear up an airport!?? And Meigs! That's such a shame... What will the default airport be in the next installment of MS Flight Sim?! it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #4 March 31, 2003 Sadly, it looks pretty true.I wonder how in the hell those stranded planes are going to be moved. This is truly a black day for general aviation. Kris Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #5 March 31, 2003 go HERE - they have a live webcam set up.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #6 March 31, 2003 Is Mayor Daley a crazyman? When I first saw that they'd bulldozed the runway, I assumed they were looking for bodies. It is Chicago.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #7 March 31, 2003 QuoteIs Mayor Daley a crazyman? No, just a very stupid man. This is kinda funny (well, not funny haha)...my brother went off on some rant about Daley a little over a week ago. He kept yapping about all the stupid stuff he's done around Chicago and how he couldn't wait to see his next big screw up.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #8 March 31, 2003 Even though I've never flown in or out of Meigs Field (at least in real life), as a licensed pilot I'm pretty pissed off about what happened there. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #9 March 31, 2003 No joke....and I bet the pilots of the planes that are stuck there are pretty pissed She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 March 31, 2003 What a piece of crap. So many politicians & businesses are learning that they can get away with damn near anything in the name of "Homeland Security". It just makes me sick. Again, quoting Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 March 31, 2003 Hopefully the taxiway is long enough they can just take off from that, to get their planes out of there. If I was a pilot with a plane there, I would have already talked to my lawyer, my buddies with planes and had them to talk to their lawyer, and filed against the city, naming the mayor in the suit.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #12 March 31, 2003 By the looks of it, there are no aircraft there.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #13 March 31, 2003 I am so distraught! Ryan and Daley are NAZIS!! It's like a death in the family... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #14 March 31, 2003 As of 12 noon central there were I believe 12 still parked there.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #15 March 31, 2003 QuoteSomeone please tell me this is a cruel April Fools joke... http://www.aopa.org/ We now have the "Ghestapo" in the US and they are called the TSA. Daley is a wanna be ghestapo. This was really poor. We watched his news conference about it and he looked all disheveled and he was moving behind the podium very nurvously. His speach was very curt and he claims it's for security of downtown. Yet the tower of Meigs field gave much more protection of downtown than if it were not there. If a plane did not contact them coming into the downtown area they would have much more of a heads up than anyone will now. Now.....there will be no one watching planes coming to the downtown area. Daley got his presious TFR around downtown up to 3,000 feet. But I guarantee that a C-182 loaded with explosives could get into the downtown area before anyone could blink. Daley has done nothing useful and only destroyed millions of dollars in taxpayer money. F'n puke.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #16 March 31, 2003 QuoteIs Mayor Daley a crazyman? One wonders how crazy (or motivated) he is. I must admit that my only experience of Meigs is from FS2000/FS2002. My first thought is WHY??? My first method in looking for motivation is to "seek the gain", what's in it for Daley? "Homeland Security"? Nah... Meigs has been there a while, and just 'cos it's the MS default airfield ('cos one of the programmers learned to fly from Meigs) isn't an excuse - after all, you can go to ANY airfield in MSFS. The French have a saying - "Cherchez la Femme", but in this case, "Cherchez L'Argent" may be more apt. I suspect that Daley may have an "interest" in another, similar airfield. Then again, Maybe I'm just a cynical, suspicious cop, and experience tells me that it's not the motivation that changes in fraud, just the scale. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #17 March 31, 2003 Chris makes a good point - he claims it was in the name of homeland security, but actually he hurt the security of Chicago by the tower now no longer being there. And there are planes there - they said they'll be able to use the taxi way later in the week to get out, or the city will pay to get them shipped out. EDIT: most pilots probably know, Daley has actually wanted to shut down Meigs long before 9/11. They had a "Gentleman's Agreement" (that was supposed to be codified at some point) that Meigs would stay open until 2026 if he got his support to expand O'Hare. It looks like "Homeland Security" was just a good excuse to make way for Daley Park.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #18 March 31, 2003 Look again. There are 14 in the picture. Buy would I be pissed.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tf15 0 #19 March 31, 2003 QuoteQuoteIs Mayor Daley a crazyman? One wonders how crazy (or motivated) he is. I must admit that my only experience of Meigs is from FS2000/FS2002. My first thought is WHY??? My first method in looking for motivation is to "seek the gain", what's in it for Daley? "Homeland Security"? Nah... Meigs has been there a while, and just 'cos it's the MS default airfield ('cos one of the programmers learned to fly from Meigs) isn't an excuse - after all, you can go to ANY airfield in MSFS. The French have a saying - "Cherchez la Femme", but in this case, "Cherchez L'Argent" may be more apt. I suspect that Daley may have an "interest" in another, similar airfield. Then again, Maybe I'm just a cynical, suspicious cop, and experience tells me that it's not the motivation that changes in fraud, just the scale. Mike. "Maggie Daley Park" is planned for the Meigs site. Not that there would be any connection... Three times is enemy action Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #20 March 31, 2003 >Is Mayor Daley a crazyman? He's a leader elected by the people, doing his best to protect the people of the US against terrorism. I think it's time to stop all the anti-TSA whining and support the US instead of the terrorists. There is, after all, a war on terror - and you're either for it or against it. What, did you think that 'flight restrictions' would stop terrorists who want to destroy Chicago? Meigs will be destroyed, and we will all sleep safer at night knowing that another terrorist opportunity has been removed. (to borrow a common theme here . . .) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #21 March 31, 2003 QuoteNow.....there will be no one watching planes coming to the downtown area. Well, I have no clue how much "protection from above" they have in chicago, but I know here in the DC area, the skies are constantly being watched by an AWACS plane...somewhere. They're designed for watching for low altitude, transponderless targets. If it's flying around here, they see it. Stopping it is another story. The idea that the TFR or the closing of Meigs has any effect on security is a joke. In about 3 months I'm graduating and moving to CT, where the skies are nice and clear. Can't wait to get out of the airpspace here. Course I'll be flying about 15 miles outside New York's messed up airspace, but outside is outside. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #22 March 31, 2003 Naah, it's the Disney World/Land TFRs that are protecting the country from terrorism. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #23 March 31, 2003 Quote "Maggie Daley Park" is planned for the Meigs site. Not that there would be any connection... Hey! Wanna see normal, law abiding US citizens turn into terrorists? Build that park. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #24 March 31, 2003 Quote>Is Mayor Daley a crazyman? He's a leader elected by the people, doing his best to protect the people of the US against terrorism. I think it's time to stop all the anti-TSA whining and support the US instead of the terrorists. There is, after all, a war on terror - and you're either for it or against it. What, did you think that 'flight restrictions' would stop terrorists who want to destroy Chicago? Meigs will be destroyed, and we will all sleep safer at night knowing that another terrorist opportunity has been removed. (to borrow a common theme here . . .) Ahahahahhahaha.......Curses you Riddler!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #25 March 31, 2003 Quote >Is Mayor Daley a crazyman? He's a leader elected by the people, doing his best to protect the people of the US against terrorism. I think it's time to stop all the anti-TSA whining and support the US instead of the terrorists. There is, after all, a war on terror - and you're either for it or against it. What, did you think that 'flight restrictions' would stop terrorists who want to destroy Chicago? Meigs will be destroyed, and we will all sleep safer at night knowing that another terrorist opportunity has been removed. (to borrow a common theme here . . .) Hey why don't we destroy your house.. after all terrorists COULD live in your house.. it is a house after alll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
