AggieDave 6 #1 April 1, 2003 This is interesting, probably not something you'll see on CNN. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=13&u=/ap/war_desperate_dippers QuoteTobacco Shortage Makes Marines Irritable Tue Apr 1,11:57 AM ET By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer IN CENTRAL IRAQ - There is a war on, and danger lurks ahead, and the Marines of the 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry are getting desperate — for tobacco. It's been two weeks since they left they relative luxury of their camp in Kuwait and their supplies of cigarettes and chewing tobacco are running out. They are rationing their precious supplies, and even begging smokes from local farmers. An army, Napoleon reputedly said, marches on its stomach. But for generations, armies have also marched on nicotine. And these Marines — smoking more than usual under the stress of battle conditions — are getting antsy. "It just crushes morale," said Cpl. Jonathan Kibler, 22, of Lexington, Va. With the few remaining shreds of tobacco nearly gone, the Marines here face the prospect of being involuntarily enrolled in what could be one of the most successful programs to end nicotine addiction in history. It's hard to overestimate the importance of tobacco to the Marines. Cigarettes are smoked at every possible break and the doors of many Humvees are streaked brown from the spurts of tobacco-filled spit that shoot out of the windows every few minutes. Tobacco helps relieve boredom, relax or stay awake for long nights, the troops say. "It keeps your sanity," said Lance Cpl. Brandon Phelps, 20, of Franklinton, La. It has been that way for generations. During World War II, cigarettes were included in battle rations; on ships, sailors could buy whole cartons for 50 cents, $3 less than they cost on shore — IF they could be bought at all. U.S. Rep. Lane Evans, D-Ill., a member of the House Committee on Veteran's Affairs, has said that, "From the time of the Civil War until 1956, the Army was required by law to provide a cheap and nearly endless supply of tobacco to its personnel." That's changed. Since 2002, all Department of Defense (news - web sites) facilities have been smoke-free — though of course that doesn't apply to the battlefield. Despite the military's best efforts, 34 percent of the members of the service smoke, compared to 23 percent of all Americans. While living in their tent camp in Kuwait for nearly two months, the Marines were constantly resupplied with cigarette cartons and rolls of 10 tins of dip mailed by family members or with tobacco they bought themselves at the PX truck. But there are no stores in this desert, though many Marines swear they have huge stores of tobacco in the mail somewhere out there, there's yet to be a mail delivery and there's little hope for one soon. "It's frustrating knowing that there's a box more of it back there that I haven't gotten yet," said Capt. Daniel Schmitt, 31, of Glen Ellyn, Ill., a serial dipper who ran out days ago. With smokers and dippers becoming more desperate, the value of tobacco has exploded. Cpl. Aeron Jackson, 22, of Circleville, Ohio, sold 9 tins of chewing tobacco, for which he paid $4 each, for prices that started at $5 and escalated to $20 as his comrades run out. Now he is almost on empty himself. But most Marines, no matter how low their stocks, are sharing what little they have. "As soon as someone gets a can it's pretty much gone in a day," said Kibler. He offered to trade the entire contents of his day pack, except his sleeping bag, for one more tin. Phelps has been smoking since he was 9 and dipping since he was 7. But the four cans and six packs he brought from Kuwait ran out about a week ago and now he has to beg. "Every time I see somebody light up a cigarette I'm right there: 'What's up, man?'" he said. So far, Marines have not exploded with nicotine rage. But they have become a little more irritable and uncomfortable. "The real test will come when we're up for long hours and no one's got dip or smokes," Kibler said. "If we're up for 30, 36 hours, you'll see people getting real edgy." Cpl. Matt Nale, 31, of Seattle, Wash., normally smokes half a pack a day. He brought three cartons of cigarettes with him from Kuwait, but they ran out nearly a week ago after he shared them with his mortar platoon. Desperate, he managed to bum two packs of local Sumer cigarettes — stronger than his preferred Marlboros — off Iraqi farmers in the countryside using hand signals to bridge the language gap. "We've had three cigarettes a day for the last three days because of those farmers," he said. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #2 April 1, 2003 This will end the war quick. Can you imagine how violent an armed man on nic fit can be?JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 April 1, 2003 Not just a pissed off armed man, but freak'n Marines...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #4 April 1, 2003 THey really want to end it quick, send in the elite troops: Woman Marines, PMS raging on a nic fit going through a divorce. War over in a day.JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 April 1, 2003 Sort of like a girl I know from A&M. She was in the Corps of Cadets with me. Anyways, she went to OCS, came out top of her class AND won the PT award. She did that with a couple broken toes and a sprained knee. Never mind that she's really hot.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #6 April 1, 2003 QuoteTHey really want to end it quick, send in the elite troops: Woman Marines, PMS raging on a nic fit going through a divorce. War over in a day. Amen brother!!! Where's my f*&^&ing Midol.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #7 April 1, 2003 Quote Amen brother!!! Where's my f*&^&ing Midol. Where are my f*&^&ing freefly pants? -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #8 April 1, 2003 Quote Quote Amen brother!!! Where's my f*&^&ing Midol. Where are my f*&^&ing freefly pants? They are lining my dog's bed. Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coconutmonkey 0 #9 April 2, 2003 Tell me about it. Sad that I'm starting to look at where I'm packing my three pound bag of pipe tobacco in my gear. Hell, I don't need that spare canteen....Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBehind 0 #10 April 2, 2003 That story is the truth, i just bought two packs od marlboro reds for $10 dollars each, and i dont loke marlboros. we are about 5 cigarettes away from kicking each others asses. Quote "So there I was, No shit 30 seconds from Death..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #11 April 3, 2003 Next lesson to be learned... Farmers in Iraq giving U.S. Marines Cigarettes laced with poison, anthrax,. Just watch... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #12 April 3, 2003 You "just bought two packs o(f) marlboro reds for $10 each?" ???? Yer not stateside if you are doing that. Are you trolling or have you got an internet hookup in-country? mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #13 April 3, 2003 He's deployed.. I'm, not sre where, buthe's a friend of a few posters here and he's overseas.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #14 April 3, 2003 Quote Next lesson to be learned... Farmers in Iraq giving U.S. Marines Cigarettes laced with poison, anthrax,. Just watch... Or even worse,hydrogen cyanide laced with some addictive drug...Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites