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i just got this via IM, not nice but it made me laugh

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I think I may start using the word "french" to mean, well...

- Oh oh, I just stepped in dog french.
- You are so full of french.
- Really? You saw that? No french?
- I can't go, I have a lot of french I have to take care of today.
- Oh oh. The french really hit the fan!

You get the idea.


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Um, while it's fashionable to hate the french right now (and I'm not sure why, since the rest of the world thinks us equally nuts), we might want to bear in mind that without the french, we'd still be a british colony.

Read your revolutionary war history - without the french, the Brits would have cleaned our clocks.
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Then I would like to remind you that we pulled France out of 3 wars!

WWI
WWII
and (not a lot of ppl know this)
VietNam

and twice if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't speak French anymore, that's for damned sure. SO if you're going to try to play the "we owe them" game, get over it, we don't owe them jack shit! If anything, its the other way around.
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Then I would like to remind you that we pulled France out of 3 wars!

WWI
WWII
and (not a lot of ppl know this)
VietNam

and twice if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't speak French anymore, that's for damned sure. SO if you're going to try to play the "we owe them" game, get over it, we don't owe them jack shit! If anything, its the other way around.



The US was a minor and latecoming player in WWI. The US troops, while fighting gallantly, were not involved in the decisive battles of 1918.

Also, the general consensus among historians is that once Hitler invaded Russia in June 1941 he had sealed the fate of the 3rd Reich. The US did not come to the aid of the French in December 1941, it was Hitler that declared war on the US in 1941.

Hollywood history, while entertaining, has serious accuracy problems.
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Then I would like to remind you that we pulled France out of 3 wars!

WWI
WWII
and (not a lot of ppl know this)
VietNam

and twice if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't speak French anymore, that's for damned sure. SO if you're going to try to play the "we owe them" game, get over it, we don't owe them jack shit! If anything, its the other way around.



The US was a minor and latecoming player in WWI. The US troops, while fighting gallantly, were not involved in the decisive battles of 1918.

Also, the general consensus among historians is that once Hitler invaded Russia in June 1941 he had sealed the fate of the 3rd Reich. The US did not come to the aid of the French in December 1941, it was Hitler that declared war on the US in 1941.

Hollywood history, while entertaining, has serious accuracy problems.



And as for 'Nam, that was a resounding success...
I would never condone this, but if you're going for history as a means of pissing the French off, give them the two-fingered salute, or wave a longbow at them (since everyone's being mature about this and all).

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The US was a minor and latecoming player in WWI. The US troops, while fighting gallantly, were not involved in the decisive battles of 1918.

Also, the general consensus among historians is that once Hitler invaded Russia in June 1941 he had sealed the fate of the 3rd Reich. The US did not come to the aid of the French in December 1941, it was Hitler that declared war on the US in 1941.
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I am most definitely not a history buff, but I always thought with the US coming into the war it forced Germany to fight a 2 front war, which it could not. Had the US not entered the fray, Germany could have used most of its forced in the eastern front, thus possibly changing the outcome in the east. Again, not a history buff, anyone care to take this one on??


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I am most definitely not a history buff, but I always thought with the US coming into the war it forced Germany to fight a 2 front war, which it could not. Had the US not entered the fray, Germany could have used most of its forced in the eastern front, thus possibly changing the outcome in the east. Again, not a history buff, anyone care to take this one on??



Not a history buff either, but I always thought that the Canadians, British, Australians, Indians and Spanish (as well as the French and many other nations) were already on a Western front, but yes, the influx of American troops helped a HUGE amount. Increased the UK's gene pool as well:P.

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Just my opinion but I have met many French skydivers and of those many French skydivers I noticed they are all pretty damn good at it...B| Hmmm just a slight possibility that the French have some sort of super skydiving gene in their DNAB|:D

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Here Here Lynn!

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The US was a minor and latecoming player in WWI. The US troops, while fighting gallantly, were not involved in the decisive battles of 1918.



The USA was also a latecomer to WWII. My understanding was that it was not until after Japan attacked at Pearl Harbour that the Americans became directly involved. The Canadians were in Poland supporting the commonwealth the week after it ws invaded in 1939.

Dave

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The US's direct intervention in WWI was late and wasn't totally decisive; HOWEVER, if it wasn't for the US supplying England and France with raw materials, weapons, money, ships, food, among many other things, then they would have fallen. Kallend, before you try to go nose to nose with history, look at the whole picture, that is important.
(Although, I would stay WELL away from you when people started arguing math or physics ;):P).


Now, jump ahead to WWII, if it wasn't for US support, England would have fallen by 1941, Germany declared war on us due to our support of England. Our fighting in that war did cause Germany to fight a 2-front war, which was much much more then Germany and its limited economy could handle.

I could go into more detail, but I'm trying to finish the final paper for my History degree at Texas A&M. The paper is the pennicle of the history program, sort of a mini-gradschool.

Oh, and to suggest that I get my historical data from movies is down right insulting.

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>SO if you're going to try to play the "we owe them" game, get over it,
> we don't owe them jack shit! If anything, its the other way around.

I think a better way to say it is that we both owe each other. They've been there when we needed them, we've been there when they needed us. In the future they will defend us and we will defend them if needed. We should keep that in mind before we declare them in Saddam Hussein's leauge.

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It was a hell of a lot more than US troops that helped keep France, Russia, Great Britain and ect...
How about all the supplies of food, aircraft, armor, and ammo that we shipped over in massive convoys.
Point of fact, if it weren't for the USA's industrial might and troops most of europe would be speaking german... PERIOD.

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Bill, I'm just still pissed off at how my parent's were treated when they went to France a number of years ago. Back while my Dad was still in the Air Force (Lt. Col. Ret.), they were treated like shit. Helps give a little fuel to my fire. ;)

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>Bill, I'm just still pissed off at how my parent's were treated when
> they went to France a number of years ago. Back while my Dad was
> still in the Air Force (Lt. Col. Ret.), they were treated like shit. Helps
> give a little fuel to my fire.

The first time I was in France (near Metz) the people were some of the nicest people I've ever met. The next time I was in Paris, near Charles de Gaulle, the people I met were as rude as New Yorkers. The last time I was there I was in Aix, where they were very nice again, and in Nice, where everyone spoke english and was pretty laid back; it was a resort town.

I think it's just like the US in that respect. Spend some time in NYC and you'll think americans are loud, rude, obnoxious boors. Do the same in Portland and you'll think people are, in general, pretty nice. Do the same in Kalispell and you'll be amazed at how nice people are.

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They went all over France, not just Paris, it was all pretty much the same...*shrug* Not trying to say that you're saying my folks are liers or anything, but I know what they said.
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Hmm. Did they speak any french? When we were there, I spoke some french, heidi spoke spanish, and we had no problems in Belgium, the Netherlands, France or Luxembourg. The only place we had problems was in Heidelburg, where even germans who spoke english refused to talk to us. Odd.

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They spoke a little, not enough to debate or anything, but Dad could speak enough to get around.

They were getting anti-American crap spoken out against them, shit like that.
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