Genie 0 #26 March 28, 2003 QuoteQuoteFrance topple something? Sorry, it *was* a dream... i have to say that i do find it absolutely incredible that in all these french bashing, french owe us, how dare they have a different thought from us threads i have read here and on the wreck - i find it incredible that Americans can so sooo guilty of such hypocrisy. Yes Hypocrisy - i said it and i meant it. How many of you that are consistently poking fun and feeling aggrieved that the French seem to no longer 'care for all those americans fighting for France' - how many of you have stopped for even one second and said with the french there would be NO USA ? if you are going to start talking about gratitude for deeds past done, you guys owe France fairly big time wouldnt you say? More to the point - dont dishonour those who gave their lives by making them an arguing point in this discussion - so much for honouring your military! Oh and one last thing - 'french fries' is the american expression for potato deep fried in a chip from - invented by the belgians btw and no one else in the world has ever called them french other than you guys. Sheesh - hope renaming an inanimate object made your congress feel better - can we say grade school kids here? Sheesh Genie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #27 March 28, 2003 Quotehow many of you have stopped for even one second and said with the french there would be NO USA ? if you are going to start talking about gratitude for deeds past done, you guys owe France fairly big time wouldnt you say? If you want to get into this tug of war, do more research. We've saved Frances ass quite a few times more then they've saved ours. Read the rest of my posts in this thread to get a "real" post, since the one you quoted was very obviously a joke.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Genie 0 #28 March 28, 2003 QuoteQuotehow many of you have stopped for even one second and said with the french there would be NO USA ? if you are going to start talking about gratitude for deeds past done, you guys owe France fairly big time wouldnt you say? IQuotef you want to get into this tug of war, do more research. We've saved Frances ass quite a few times more then they've saved ours. I dont doubt that - but if they hadnt saved your butss in the first place you would never have existed to help them in the future - you'd be nice little englishmen from the colonies... Quote Read the rest of my posts in this thread to get a "real" post, since the one you quoted was very obviously a joke. Probably it could have seemed that way - i have actually read all the posts Aggie - heres the thing im not anti american - but this witch hunt against the french is really beginning to bore me. Without saying you personally - you in general ie americans who are continually giong on about how the french owe you - is really beginning to bore me. This argument can be thrown at anyone if you put the right spin on it - hence my throwing in the War of Independence. Americans didnt die in France for France - they died in France for America and for freedom, exactly as they are doing now.. There s got to be some vetaran around from Korea who had their asses saved by the french foreign legion - that happened.. Whats boring me or annoying me about all of this is that i dont like to see americans falling to the level of islamic fanatics - and thats exactly what is happening. The govt of France made a decision you disagree with - so suddenly all french are pussies, cowards, Owe you big time (forgive me if im mistaken but wasnt america attacked by an ally of Germany in ww2 and isnt that why you joined? if i see any more - we went in to save your butts! You didnt. you fought because you were attacked!) - i hate to see this kind of bigotry and prejudice being spouted by anyone - but its particularly annoying when accompanied by a huge smug attitude of "how we are the best people in the world therefore we're all entitled to treat everyone else as we wish" Maybe thats not the perception you want to give (again you as american posters in general not you aggie dave) but its the perception im getting.. And you know what its doing? Im in school with a number of international students a number of whom are from the US. They are being subjected to anti americanism in this country because of the way americans are acting. There was a case at RAF Fairford that US military charged the peace protestors ( on UK soil lets not forget), stole the banners and beat them. They told them they would be in jail for doing this in america - free speech doesnt exist anymore then? I know im rambling a bit here - i agree everyone has the right to an opinino and to express it - but how are you great americans so different from islamic fanatics, when you condemn an Entire Nation - because they disagree with your actions? Heres the key point - i havent seen any french people here or on the wreck coming out and saying "All Americans are baby killers!" which would be just as inaccurate and just as unfair as this constant french bashing. FWIW i dont think the french premier handled the situation well. I think his statement that France would veto every resolution irrespective of what it said was the wrong thing to do and left the coalition with no option but to go to war - but my god, stop pulling in the people who died to protect your country as arguing points! To the poster who said hey F**k the UN we will only let them help rebuild if they pay - that statement strikes me as one with little idea of how the world really works. I'll tell you now this war is going to cost your govt billions upon billions. American companies rebuilding Iraq will charge your govt billions. And bearing in mind that WW2 is over fr the last 50+ years and they STILL havent got back the money the Nazis secreted its a little hopeful to say all of sadaams assets will be seized and used to pay for the reconstruction.. i personally have no problems with american companies making all the money they can out of this - of course thats just reinforcing the negative image of America thats growing worldwide - just as the american negative image of the french is growing. But if thats what you want, go ahead and convince everyone that this is just war mongering it is just empire building and humanitarian aims had nothing to do with it.. Then staff the orphanages for the next 18 years. Genie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManBird 0 #29 March 29, 2003 How did the front of the plane make it through undamaged, HUH?! 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AggieDave 6 #27 March 28, 2003 Quotehow many of you have stopped for even one second and said with the french there would be NO USA ? if you are going to start talking about gratitude for deeds past done, you guys owe France fairly big time wouldnt you say? If you want to get into this tug of war, do more research. We've saved Frances ass quite a few times more then they've saved ours. Read the rest of my posts in this thread to get a "real" post, since the one you quoted was very obviously a joke.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genie 0 #28 March 28, 2003 QuoteQuotehow many of you have stopped for even one second and said with the french there would be NO USA ? if you are going to start talking about gratitude for deeds past done, you guys owe France fairly big time wouldnt you say? IQuotef you want to get into this tug of war, do more research. We've saved Frances ass quite a few times more then they've saved ours. I dont doubt that - but if they hadnt saved your butss in the first place you would never have existed to help them in the future - you'd be nice little englishmen from the colonies... Quote Read the rest of my posts in this thread to get a "real" post, since the one you quoted was very obviously a joke. Probably it could have seemed that way - i have actually read all the posts Aggie - heres the thing im not anti american - but this witch hunt against the french is really beginning to bore me. Without saying you personally - you in general ie americans who are continually giong on about how the french owe you - is really beginning to bore me. This argument can be thrown at anyone if you put the right spin on it - hence my throwing in the War of Independence. Americans didnt die in France for France - they died in France for America and for freedom, exactly as they are doing now.. There s got to be some vetaran around from Korea who had their asses saved by the french foreign legion - that happened.. Whats boring me or annoying me about all of this is that i dont like to see americans falling to the level of islamic fanatics - and thats exactly what is happening. The govt of France made a decision you disagree with - so suddenly all french are pussies, cowards, Owe you big time (forgive me if im mistaken but wasnt america attacked by an ally of Germany in ww2 and isnt that why you joined? if i see any more - we went in to save your butts! You didnt. you fought because you were attacked!) - i hate to see this kind of bigotry and prejudice being spouted by anyone - but its particularly annoying when accompanied by a huge smug attitude of "how we are the best people in the world therefore we're all entitled to treat everyone else as we wish" Maybe thats not the perception you want to give (again you as american posters in general not you aggie dave) but its the perception im getting.. And you know what its doing? Im in school with a number of international students a number of whom are from the US. They are being subjected to anti americanism in this country because of the way americans are acting. There was a case at RAF Fairford that US military charged the peace protestors ( on UK soil lets not forget), stole the banners and beat them. They told them they would be in jail for doing this in america - free speech doesnt exist anymore then? I know im rambling a bit here - i agree everyone has the right to an opinino and to express it - but how are you great americans so different from islamic fanatics, when you condemn an Entire Nation - because they disagree with your actions? Heres the key point - i havent seen any french people here or on the wreck coming out and saying "All Americans are baby killers!" which would be just as inaccurate and just as unfair as this constant french bashing. FWIW i dont think the french premier handled the situation well. I think his statement that France would veto every resolution irrespective of what it said was the wrong thing to do and left the coalition with no option but to go to war - but my god, stop pulling in the people who died to protect your country as arguing points! To the poster who said hey F**k the UN we will only let them help rebuild if they pay - that statement strikes me as one with little idea of how the world really works. I'll tell you now this war is going to cost your govt billions upon billions. American companies rebuilding Iraq will charge your govt billions. And bearing in mind that WW2 is over fr the last 50+ years and they STILL havent got back the money the Nazis secreted its a little hopeful to say all of sadaams assets will be seized and used to pay for the reconstruction.. i personally have no problems with american companies making all the money they can out of this - of course thats just reinforcing the negative image of America thats growing worldwide - just as the american negative image of the french is growing. But if thats what you want, go ahead and convince everyone that this is just war mongering it is just empire building and humanitarian aims had nothing to do with it.. Then staff the orphanages for the next 18 years. Genie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #29 March 29, 2003 How did the front of the plane make it through undamaged, HUH?! HUH?!?!?! Eh?!?!? Er... what? Shut up."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites