miked10270 0 #1 March 27, 2003 'Fraid it's another French one... Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tb62871 0 #2 March 27, 2003 I love it. --TB Welcome my friends to the show that never ends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #3 March 28, 2003 very funny!I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schroeder 0 #4 March 28, 2003 edited to add: Of all the things for Americans to laugh at.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,541 #5 March 28, 2003 It's too small-minded. Really. Because while on one level it could be laughed at, on too many others, people will look at it and say shit like "too fucking right" Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #6 March 28, 2003 Amen! If that happens, we'll OPPOSE France's retaliation BUT, demand that we take part on the RECONTRUCTION....wait a second, what am I saying?, if that happens, FRANCE WILL SURRENDER ANYWAY, Ok.....nevermind. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 March 28, 2003 Quotedemand that we take part on the RECONTRUCTION Don't you mean "take over the reconstruction and deny the parties that were actually INVOLVED from participating"?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #8 March 28, 2003 QuoteQuotedemand that we take part on the RECONTRUCTION Don't you mean "take over the reconstruction and deny the parties that were actually INVOLVED from participating"? You know what I mean.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #9 March 28, 2003 >If that happens, we'll OPPOSE France's retaliation BUT, demand >that we take part on the RECONTRUCTION . . . If history repeats, then France will determine the hijackers were Al Qaeda - andn then launch an attack on Cuba. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 March 28, 2003 Quoteandn then launch an attack on Cuba. mmmmmm...and think of all the cheap cigars that could be had when they topple Castro...wait, France topple something? Sorry, it *was* a dream...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #11 March 28, 2003 QuoteFrance topple something? Sorry, it *was* a dream... LOL, so true.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #12 March 28, 2003 >wait, France topple something? Sorry, it *was* a dream... Well, the Iraqis do seem to be perfecting surrender as a form of combat; maybe the French will pick up on that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 March 28, 2003 They could, they're about due to come back into the realm of real military powers. Its been a couple hundred years.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #14 March 28, 2003 Quote Well, the Iraqis do seem to be perfecting surrender as a form of combat; maybe the French will pick up on that. Dude,I guess the French invented that word, say it with a slight french accent and you'll see it fits PERFECTLY.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigben 0 #15 March 28, 2003 QuoteQuoteandn then launch an attack on Cuba. France topple something? Sorry, it *was* a dream... Hey, wait a minute, they shot my king in the eye in 1066. Hang on, am I French? -Ben Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #16 March 28, 2003 Based on that logic....... When Elizabeth I died and James Stuart took the throne.... Makes you Scottish David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #17 March 28, 2003 Well here's an interesting question, thecontract for running the port of Um Qasr has been awarded to a US company but that non-US companies can bid for subcontract work in the rebuilding. http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/text2003/0326iraq-aid.htm As the port was secured by the coalition forces why is a US agency running it? Yes the US bore the brunt of the fighting as a whole but not in Um Qasr. As the UN is pretty good at the humanitarian stuff why aren't they running the rebuilding? I think Tony is trying to get this discussion going in the UN and it may go a long way to giving the UN a role in the conflict. Also with what I've read and seen in the press it could go a long way to cinvincing the Iraqi people that the US isn't hanging around to exploit the country. Just a thought. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 March 28, 2003 QuoteAs the UN is pretty good at the humanitarian stuff why aren't they running the rebuilding? Did I say UN? Nope. I expect the UN to be a large part in the reconstruction. I'm pissed at the French government and their proposals and stances. France does NOT equal the UN.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #19 March 28, 2003 I didn't say France equalled the UN I just think it could be a good idea to run the reconstruction through the UN. It was more thinking out loud. I'm not a huge fan of companies profiteering from the conflict so I thought the UN could at least try and do it impartially. As I said I think it could also be a good way of bringing the new Iraq into the international community and show other countries in the region and in the UN that their involvement in rebuilding the new Iraq is required. If the French submit a plan that isn't acceptable there is always the power of veto. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #20 March 28, 2003 QuoteI'm not a huge fan of companies profiteering from the conflict so I thought the UN could at least try and do it impartially. The USA's plan is to use all of Iraq's ability to fund their reconstruction, without compensation. i.e. use their oil to pay for a new life for the country.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #21 March 28, 2003 I say we tell the UN to go f- themselves in respect to helping with the rebuilding. I think If they want in on this one, they need to pick up the tab, and thats just to get us to even CONSIDER it. More payments would be required depending on several factors, including how hard it was for us, number of casualties, etc. If they wanted in, they should have cooperated when we originally asked. it kinda reminds me of some skydivers... when you ask them if they want to kick in some cash for a cookout, beer, or whatever and they say no... but then are the first ones there to mooch off the paying members of the group for a burger, beer, etc.Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12bhi 0 #22 March 28, 2003 Real cool....Lets just hate the french because they didnt kiss are ass...Hell,why dont we just hate everyone...Heres a better idea...I think we should just piss off the entire fuckin world just because were americans and have the right...Like billvon said in a past post..."There will come a day when america is no longer the super power of the world,and when the shit hits the fan and people start creeping in our back yards,who will we turn to then?? I guess we wont need anyone,because god only blesses us americans...The pilgrim attitude has to go....Were the native Americas terrorist???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #23 March 28, 2003 Yeah I read that idea and I think it's a good one. I also read that the UN is trying to restart the oil for food program but don't know who to give the money to as SH's regime isn't going to be in place in the near future. Maybe I was more ticked off that there is a coalition of countries contributing to the conflict yet the role of those countries post-conflict isn't clear. I'm getting the impression it's "thank you for helping, sorry some of your guys died. Now quietly go away while we sort out the rebuilding". If the rebuilding is being funded by the Iraqi assets I just think an impartial trustee type organisation would be better. Ask the Swedes, Swiss or Irish Republic to administer it if need be. This is not a slap at the US or the troops involved so please don't take it as such. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 March 28, 2003 I guess I don't like how France is running over our soilder's still warm dead bodies trying to get in place to run the reconstruction. Their actions as of late have resolved my hatred of their government (nothing against French people persay, just the government right now).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #25 March 28, 2003 I hear where you're coming from. There's not a whole lot I can do about it so I guess I'll just have to see how it turns out. I think the most difficult part of the reconstruction will be avoiding criticism about exploiting the Iraqi assets. Regardless of how it's done someone, somewhere will make political advantage of it. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
