btvr 0 #1 March 27, 2003 In the forum rules, It states "no personal attacks". But I have seen some replies to posts that personally attack our country! Like calling it an Illegal war, waged by an unelected president. This bothers me a little but I can accept it coming from an American citizen expressing their opinion. I however can't accept it coming from a non American from another country just bashing us! You can attack me but don't attack my country! Should we allow this to go on? Maybe those non americans should get warnings for personal attacks, because when you attack my country, I take it personally! I served in the USMC in Operation Desert Storm. It didn't matter if I supported it or not. As a US troop I had to do as I was ordered to do. Nobody likes war! Especially the troops who have to live with the fact that they might not come home. "The soldier above all prays for peace, because it is he who must bear the burdens of war" Semper Fi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #2 March 27, 2003 So what about all the Americans poking at the French?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #3 March 27, 2003 Quote no personal attacks I see it as a country, not a person. If it said "no country attacks" then I think you'd have a point. And then we'd have to stop taking cheap shots at the French... and where's the fun in that?! And Canada - jesus.... there's a comedic goldmine there you'd be sealing up. it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #4 March 27, 2003 I disagree that "Freedom of Speach" is only for US citizens. We need to think more globally. Some people just need to vent I guess. They lash out because they have no other way of expressing their feelings. They feel powerless so they post here on a skydiving forum. I just choose to read past it. Edited to add: Kindergarten Rule #3: Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. And......Rule #4: I'm rubber. You're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #5 March 27, 2003 Hi Vince, You bring up a very valid question. The rule of no personal attacks refers to personal attacks on fellow dz.commers. We are allowed to voice our opinions on various topics, however we have the responsibility to look at our words and discern if they will insult or incite. If they are not contributing to the conversation in a positive way, then you are taking the thread in a direction Sangiro does not want it to go. I personally have seen comments that I thought were anti-Catholic. Being a Catholic, I could feel myself fuming and wanting to reply. However, the poster never insulted me personally and they are entitled to that opinion. There can be a gray area here, but the moderators and the boss are very good at deciphering when the line has been crossed. Take care and enjoy the forums. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btvr 0 #6 March 27, 2003 I see what you mean about venting, but I too would look past it. I felt I had to say something. I had restaint. I could have replyed by bashing them, but didn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 March 27, 2003 QuoteI could have replyed by bashing them, but didn't. But you did. QuoteWho died and made you the "WAR" police! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #8 March 27, 2003 QuoteI see what you mean about venting, but I too would look past it. I felt I had to say something. I had restaint. I could have replyed by bashing them, but didn't. Hey, I've been there too man. Look at some of the recent posts. Just trying to give a reminder I got recently too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btvr 0 #9 March 27, 2003 That's not bashing his country! What do you expect! take a crack on America and let it slide? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #10 March 27, 2003 QuoteWhat do you expect! take a crack on America and let it slide? Yes. Just like the Canadians, French, Germans, etc do when people crack on their countries here. Responding to an attack on America with an attack on the poster solves nothing and goes against the basic rules of these forums. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 March 27, 2003 Quote Yes. Just like the Canadians, French, Germans, etc do when people crack on their countries here. We can still make fun of California, though! Woohoo!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #12 March 27, 2003 Oh like Texas is any better! The only reason Texas doesn't slip into the Gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks! Is the Pub still open? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 March 27, 2003 It was me that said those comments that you took offence to. You may not like it but this war is seen as illegal by most of the world including some of the best legal minds in both the UK and US. Your president wasn't elected by the majority of your nation and gained power through some very dodgy circumstances. It may have escaped your grasp but MY country is also taking part in this war. I support the troops who are out there in a situation that they should never have been put into, but am against the war. My comments are not an attack on the US but on its current overseas policy. As a former serviceman I also followed orders but as a civilian I have the freedom to express my opinions. America isn't the world and you don't have any more right to freedom of speach than I do. I supported the first Gulf war but I don't support this one, if you don't like it thats really just to bad. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 March 27, 2003 Quote The only reason Texas doesn't slip into the Gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks! I hadn't heard that before, that's pretty funny! --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYEVOUT 0 #15 March 27, 2003 QuoteOh like Texas is any better! The only reason Texas doesn't slip into the Gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks! That is the funniest thing I've read in a long time, Thanks - Hee Hee ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #16 March 27, 2003 QuoteThat is the funniest thing I've read in a long time, Thanks - Hee Hee Wooowhooo!!!.....I'm funny today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #17 March 27, 2003 I've noticed that fewer and fewer non-Americans seem to be posting to the Talkback forum. Just an observation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #18 March 27, 2003 That's cos everyone's getting pissed off with the majority of American's attitudes towards the war. ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seedy 0 #19 March 27, 2003 QuoteI've noticed that fewer and fewer non-Americans seem to be posting to the Talkback forum. I still see many non-americans on here and welcome the diversity of opinions that they bring to the forums. I intend to live forever -- so far, so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatmissile 0 #20 March 27, 2003 QuoteI've noticed that fewer and fewer non-Americans seem to be posting to the Talkback forum. Because of threads like this. I am NOT against this war, on the contrary - I support it. But I am very much against this attitude. Look at how many jibes the French had to take on this forum, and that is a country with a lot of skydivers. -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #21 March 27, 2003 Quote when you attack my country, I take it personally! Well, being anti-catholic, I take it personally when someone uses *God* in their arguments. Disagreeing with the US foreign policy, I'm a bit offended when someone is supporting it without much solid ground for their beliefs. And since I like the French and the Germans, well, you can imagine how deeply I am hurt by these sudden bashings they're taking from Americans. Also, I don't like it when people use bad grammar, tell jokes in which animals suffer and I definitely don't like pink and purple parachutes that some of the posters here are so proudly displaying in their avatars. I hope Sangiro will take these points into consideration when he rewrites the forum rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #22 March 27, 2003 Hey Ferdi, ek vlieg oor presies 3 weke Kaap toe! Ek gaan definitief in die week by Delta spring, hoop ons kry tyd om n dop of twee te klap! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatmissile 0 #23 March 27, 2003 Laat my weet as jy hier is, chopper. Ek PM jou my nommer. -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #25 March 27, 2003 Yeah but they are just French, they don't really count.....I mean they don't even make french fries anymore. JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites