andreeb77 0 #1 July 10, 2012 Hi Everyone! Does anyone have experiences with the packing volume of a Neos 109? I jump a Micron V306 with an Optimum 126 reserve. Currently there's a XFire 109 in there. UPT's sizing chart says a Neos doesn't fit into this combination. Can someone either confirm or deny this? Thanks in advance! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 July 10, 2012 my Neos 109 packs a little bigger than my ex Crossfire2 119, if that could be of any help.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #3 July 10, 2012 Quote UPT's sizing chart says a Neos doesn't fit into this combination. Can someone either confirm or deny this? If the manufacture says it does not fit why would you go on line shopping a different opinion? UPT just might know what they are talking about.SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #4 July 10, 2012 Quote UPT just might know what they are talking about.Sparky how dare you scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #5 July 10, 2012 Quote Quote UPT just might know what they are talking about.Sparky how dare you Nicholas, I have been known to "dare" a lot of things. But always in the interest of keeping people alive. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andreeb77 0 #6 July 10, 2012 Quote If the manufacture says it does not fit why would you go on line shopping a different opinion? UPT just might know what they are talking about. ...because UPT gives recommendations (at least I take them as such). E.g. they recommend standard fitting main canopies which does not mean that a size smaller or bigger does not fit. It might just not be too convenient to pack (in reasonable limits, of course). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #7 July 10, 2012 Quote Quote If the manufacture says it does not fit why would you go on line shopping a different opinion? UPT just might know what they are talking about. ...because UPT gives recommendations (at least I take them as such). E.g. they recommend standard fitting main canopies which does not mean that a size smaller or bigger does not fit. It might just not be too convenient to pack (in reasonable limits, of course). Overstuffed rigs have been linked to delayed reserve deployments. Is that a risk you want to take? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andreeb77 0 #8 July 10, 2012 Nope.... That's why I ask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #9 July 10, 2012 Quotemy Neos 109 packs a little bigger than my ex Crossfire2 119, if that could be of any help. and UPT says only an XF2 109 will fit in a v306, the neos packs bigger, hence it would be out of limits..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andreeb77 0 #10 July 10, 2012 Actually UPT says that a Xfire 119 fits in (as standard fitting ). Hence my question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #11 July 10, 2012 QuoteActually UPT says that a Xfire 119 fits in (as standard fitting ). Hence my question. a safire2 119 is a pretty tight fit as it is anyway..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #12 July 10, 2012 Quote Quote If the manufacture says it does not fit why would you go on line shopping a different opinion? UPT just might know what they are talking about. ...because UPT gives recommendations (at least I take them as such). E.g. they recommend standard fitting main canopies which does not mean that a size smaller or bigger does not fit. It might just not be too convenient to pack (in reasonable limits, of course). This is what they say. Recommended Canopy Size The pack volume represented by these sample groups should be considered maximum recommended pack volumes to ensure proper fit, function and ease of packing. Down sizing main and/or reserve canopy one size category is acceptable. It is not recommended to use larger reserve canopies than represented in the sample group. And I still feel it is foolish not to follow the recommendations of the manufacture. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badabing 0 #13 July 10, 2012 The sizing chart that UPT has doesn't always include all possible combinations. At least in my experience. So I think it's a good question. Piis- do you think it packs like a 129 crossfire or a size in between a 119 or a 129? I've been jumping 1 size to big with a crossfire (119 was standard fitting- I jumped a 129 which wasnt on the chart) and a vector for 400 jumps with one reserve ride. The rig didnt't feel as soft and comfy anymore, but it's doable. Plus I asked UPT and they had no concerns and said to give it a go.. :) Grüße an den kleinen ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigbey 0 #14 July 11, 2012 Demo a Neos 109 and find out for yourself... http://www.para-concepts.com/Store/index.php?cPath=30_33 If it helps any, the 109 was a very tight fit in my V319 which comfortably holds a Samurai 120 and Xaos21-104. Not at the same time, of course. I have a copy of the UPT sizing chart from 2009 and another from 2012. Interesting changes to many of the recommendations. Enough of a difference that I would not completely trust the chart alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #15 July 11, 2012 You can easily pack noes 109 into v306 bag. Neos 109 packs little smaller than crossfire 119 or as big as 119. It only has x-bracing in the center cell and and its small stabilizer does not add too much bulk.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andreeb77 0 #16 July 11, 2012 Thanks for all the replies. I might give it a try with a demo canopy. I was in contact with Maria from Icarus. Rigger approval will be asked for before jumping it though. @ badabing: Ich drück dem kleinen ein Stück Brot von dir in die Hand ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
