rss_v 0 #1 July 11, 2012 Hi - basic question: I see that people wear all kinds of different goggles or glasses. Is it pretty much that you can wear whatever you like so long as it stays on? Then there may be concerns about shatter-resistance and so on, but in the first instance can you really wear anything basically? I have none of my own kit but gloves and goggles are at the top of my list, since the rental ones are pretty disgusting. Krrops are pretty cheap but apparently they fall apart after ten jumps... I want anything either clear or very lightly tinted/shaded - but not coloured. I nearly always pull my goggles off once under canopy, because they mist up easily and I have poorer view of the ground for landing, so something I can slip down will be necessary. That's possible just by routing the strap across the middle of my ears rather than over/behind them. Sorry for the stupid question, then - but, within reason, basically can I just wear whatever I find that fits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #2 July 11, 2012 Are you a student? Most dropzones want clear goggles on their students. Talk to your instructor. If you are licensed then at least here in the states you are allowed to use whatever you want."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rss_v 0 #3 July 11, 2012 QuoteAre you a student?Quote Not AFF, but perhaps soon FS and so on. I'd want something clear anyway, for eye contact at other times than in the air (on the plane etc) and just for visibility. Though I suppose, I like I said, I tend to pull them off under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DBCOOPER 5 #4 July 11, 2012 Who told you Kroops fall apart after 10 jumps?Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rss_v 0 #5 July 11, 2012 QuoteWho told you Kroops fall apart after 10 jumps? I read it somewhere *shrug* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumpingeezer 5 #6 July 11, 2012 Don't believe everything you hear. I have used Kroops for over twenty years (OTG) and I have never had a problem with them. You won't be the Kool Kid on the block with the latest and greatest, but they are inexpensive and they work just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rss_v 0 #7 July 11, 2012 QuoteDon't believe everything you hear. I have used Kroops for over twenty years (OTG) and I have never had a problem with them. You won't be the Kool Kid on the block with the latest and greatest, but they are inexpensive and they work just fine. Fair enough. Any idea why they're so cheap compared to other plastic-and-elastic types of goggles? I assumed the DZ student/rental ones were crap but they're a more expensive type than Kroops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #8 July 11, 2012 Could be the relative size of their market. Kroops are marketed to other sports that have a greater number of participants, where some of the others may be skydiving-specific. Spreading fixed costs over a smaller volume = higher prices."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #9 July 15, 2012 The problem with Kroops as I see it is that the elastic strap loses strength so quickly, so one is always fiddling to adjust it shorter, or it is nearly 'stretched out' with little elasticity at all. When digging through a pile of goggles for students, the Kroops always seem to be the crappiest choice. Other types like Flexvision have a stronger bungee (although harder against the head). I personally like Skyeyes' soft silicone strap which lasts pretty long. But that's only looking at traditional skydiving goggles; many people use full face helmets (not normally for students!), or various other eyewear like sunglasses and sports goggles. Sunglasses are great for some people, but others with more sensitive eyes find that even tight fitting ones allow an uncomfortable blast of air on the eyeballs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sfancey 0 #10 July 16, 2012 Quote Could be the relative size of their market. Kroops are marketed to other sports that have a greater number of participants, where some of the others may be skydiving-specific. Spreading fixed costs over a smaller volume = higher prices. Along those lines, check out motorcycle gear shops; I have a set of sunglasses made specifically for keeping the wind out of your eyes. They double pretty well for skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FNG 0 #11 July 18, 2012 Another idea would be to get some prescription eyewear sport glasses. Even if you don't wear prescription lenses you can get frames with non prescription lenses and that would allow you to get whatever type of coatings or tints you want (transitions lenses). Liberty sport makes some pretty nice frames that are great for jumping. Also think about it just about any eyewear that is good for motorcycling would probably work for jumping as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites theonlyski 8 #12 July 18, 2012 QuoteAnother idea would be to get some prescription eyewear sport glasses. Even if you don't wear prescription lenses you can get frames with non prescription lenses and that would allow you to get whatever type of coatings or tints you want (transitions lenses). Liberty sport makes some pretty nice frames that are great for jumping. Also think about it just about any eyewear that is good for motorcycling would probably work for jumping as well I've yet to see any transition lenses that are worth much skydiving wise."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinciflies 0 #13 July 18, 2012 I haven't read the whole thread, but in case it hasn't been mentioned - avoid polarized lenses if you plan to use an altimeter with an LCD display such as a Viso or Neptune. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites virgin-burner 1 #14 July 20, 2012 they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinciflies 0 #15 July 20, 2012 Quote they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. No, I am passing on knowledge from a mistake I made. The more you post, the less credible you become. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites virgin-burner 1 #16 July 20, 2012 Quote Quote they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. No, I am passing on knowledge from a mistake I made. The more you post, the less credible you become. right, says the guy with 300 jumps and a 120 katana.. need i say more!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinciflies 0 #17 July 20, 2012 Quote.. need i say more!? No, you really should not say any more. But if you have an issue with me, I suggest that you start a new thread to air your grievances instead of cluttering up existing threads where people are trying to have a sensible discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites uberchris 0 #18 July 20, 2012 been thinking about wearing my snowboard goggles for skydiving and speedflying from now on............ anyone wear theirs and has all been well?gravity brings me down......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites virgin-burner 1 #19 July 20, 2012 how about you start posting under your alter ego again, or do you just do that when you forget to login as DVF!? until then, i dont care..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #20 July 20, 2012 Quotehow about you start posting under your alter ego again, or do you just do that when you forget to login as DVF!? until then, i dont care.. Get a fucking room you 2...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinciflies 0 #21 July 21, 2012 Quote they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. My advice is from personal experience of misreading a Viso. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites virgin-burner 1 #22 July 21, 2012 you're giving advice now doc? when did you become an instructor along the way?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinciflies 0 #23 July 21, 2012 Quoteyou're giving advice now doc? when did you become an instructor along the way? Am I an eye wear instructor? No, not got that rating yet. The OP asked for advice - I gave him some. Nobody is forcing him to take it. If you wish to continue this personal vendetta against me - again I suggest you either take it to PM or start your own thread. You add little to no value to these forums and quite frankly I am surprised you haven't been given a break for some of the idiotic things you have said. I doubt anyone is impressed by your spouting bullshit whilst hiding behind an internet persona. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #24 July 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteAnother idea would be to get some prescription eyewear sport glasses. Even if you don't wear prescription lenses you can get frames with non prescription lenses and that would allow you to get whatever type of coatings or tints you want (transitions lenses). Liberty sport makes some pretty nice frames that are great for jumping. Also think about it just about any eyewear that is good for motorcycling would probably work for jumping as well I've yet to see any transition lenses that are worth much skydiving wise. Really, WOW, I have been wearing them for nearly 9 years, they work fantastic for me. I cant not jump without my glasses, and early on I got caught on a "last light" load it became darker than i was comfortable with (wearing sunnies). I have been wearing transitions ever since and they work great.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #25 July 22, 2012 Both of you need to take that conversation to PM or the parking lot, I don't care which, but if it continues in this thread or in this forum, you can expect a very long time away from the forums."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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DBCOOPER 5 #4 July 11, 2012 Who told you Kroops fall apart after 10 jumps?Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rss_v 0 #5 July 11, 2012 QuoteWho told you Kroops fall apart after 10 jumps? I read it somewhere *shrug* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpingeezer 5 #6 July 11, 2012 Don't believe everything you hear. I have used Kroops for over twenty years (OTG) and I have never had a problem with them. You won't be the Kool Kid on the block with the latest and greatest, but they are inexpensive and they work just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rss_v 0 #7 July 11, 2012 QuoteDon't believe everything you hear. I have used Kroops for over twenty years (OTG) and I have never had a problem with them. You won't be the Kool Kid on the block with the latest and greatest, but they are inexpensive and they work just fine. Fair enough. Any idea why they're so cheap compared to other plastic-and-elastic types of goggles? I assumed the DZ student/rental ones were crap but they're a more expensive type than Kroops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #8 July 11, 2012 Could be the relative size of their market. Kroops are marketed to other sports that have a greater number of participants, where some of the others may be skydiving-specific. Spreading fixed costs over a smaller volume = higher prices."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #9 July 15, 2012 The problem with Kroops as I see it is that the elastic strap loses strength so quickly, so one is always fiddling to adjust it shorter, or it is nearly 'stretched out' with little elasticity at all. When digging through a pile of goggles for students, the Kroops always seem to be the crappiest choice. Other types like Flexvision have a stronger bungee (although harder against the head). I personally like Skyeyes' soft silicone strap which lasts pretty long. But that's only looking at traditional skydiving goggles; many people use full face helmets (not normally for students!), or various other eyewear like sunglasses and sports goggles. Sunglasses are great for some people, but others with more sensitive eyes find that even tight fitting ones allow an uncomfortable blast of air on the eyeballs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfancey 0 #10 July 16, 2012 Quote Could be the relative size of their market. Kroops are marketed to other sports that have a greater number of participants, where some of the others may be skydiving-specific. Spreading fixed costs over a smaller volume = higher prices. Along those lines, check out motorcycle gear shops; I have a set of sunglasses made specifically for keeping the wind out of your eyes. They double pretty well for skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FNG 0 #11 July 18, 2012 Another idea would be to get some prescription eyewear sport glasses. Even if you don't wear prescription lenses you can get frames with non prescription lenses and that would allow you to get whatever type of coatings or tints you want (transitions lenses). Liberty sport makes some pretty nice frames that are great for jumping. Also think about it just about any eyewear that is good for motorcycling would probably work for jumping as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #12 July 18, 2012 QuoteAnother idea would be to get some prescription eyewear sport glasses. Even if you don't wear prescription lenses you can get frames with non prescription lenses and that would allow you to get whatever type of coatings or tints you want (transitions lenses). Liberty sport makes some pretty nice frames that are great for jumping. Also think about it just about any eyewear that is good for motorcycling would probably work for jumping as well I've yet to see any transition lenses that are worth much skydiving wise."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #13 July 18, 2012 I haven't read the whole thread, but in case it hasn't been mentioned - avoid polarized lenses if you plan to use an altimeter with an LCD display such as a Viso or Neptune. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #14 July 20, 2012 they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #15 July 20, 2012 Quote they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. No, I am passing on knowledge from a mistake I made. The more you post, the less credible you become. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #16 July 20, 2012 Quote Quote they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. No, I am passing on knowledge from a mistake I made. The more you post, the less credible you become. right, says the guy with 300 jumps and a 120 katana.. need i say more!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #17 July 20, 2012 Quote.. need i say more!? No, you really should not say any more. But if you have an issue with me, I suggest that you start a new thread to air your grievances instead of cluttering up existing threads where people are trying to have a sensible discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberchris 0 #18 July 20, 2012 been thinking about wearing my snowboard goggles for skydiving and speedflying from now on............ anyone wear theirs and has all been well?gravity brings me down......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #19 July 20, 2012 how about you start posting under your alter ego again, or do you just do that when you forget to login as DVF!? until then, i dont care..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #20 July 20, 2012 Quotehow about you start posting under your alter ego again, or do you just do that when you forget to login as DVF!? until then, i dont care.. Get a fucking room you 2...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #21 July 21, 2012 Quote they work just fine if you know your angle.. but as usual DocPop, you're only re-urgitating stuff you've READ.. My advice is from personal experience of misreading a Viso. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #22 July 21, 2012 you're giving advice now doc? when did you become an instructor along the way?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #23 July 21, 2012 Quoteyou're giving advice now doc? when did you become an instructor along the way? Am I an eye wear instructor? No, not got that rating yet. The OP asked for advice - I gave him some. Nobody is forcing him to take it. If you wish to continue this personal vendetta against me - again I suggest you either take it to PM or start your own thread. You add little to no value to these forums and quite frankly I am surprised you haven't been given a break for some of the idiotic things you have said. I doubt anyone is impressed by your spouting bullshit whilst hiding behind an internet persona. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #24 July 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteAnother idea would be to get some prescription eyewear sport glasses. Even if you don't wear prescription lenses you can get frames with non prescription lenses and that would allow you to get whatever type of coatings or tints you want (transitions lenses). Liberty sport makes some pretty nice frames that are great for jumping. Also think about it just about any eyewear that is good for motorcycling would probably work for jumping as well I've yet to see any transition lenses that are worth much skydiving wise. Really, WOW, I have been wearing them for nearly 9 years, they work fantastic for me. I cant not jump without my glasses, and early on I got caught on a "last light" load it became darker than i was comfortable with (wearing sunnies). I have been wearing transitions ever since and they work great.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #25 July 22, 2012 Both of you need to take that conversation to PM or the parking lot, I don't care which, but if it continues in this thread or in this forum, you can expect a very long time away from the forums."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
