AggieDave 6 #26 March 21, 2003 QuoteBush got scared and ran off Right. Scared. Just keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better. The kind of comments you're making leads me to believe that you really don't have an informed opinion, atleast not an educated one. You can disagree with whatever you want to, that's fine, just prove to me that you came to your conclusions through an educated intellectual process. Not one of sensationalism.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #27 March 21, 2003 And you do? You only what what the press tell you, and that ain't always the truth____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #28 March 21, 2003 Right, I do only have what the press says, but I also get my news from almost a dozen different sources from around the globe, piece it all together and you can get somewhere close to the truth. Furthermore, I am a history scholar, I base quite a few of my conclusions on historical fact. Historical fact doesn't necissarily mean 50 years ago, either, it can mean just last year. Looking at Saddam's history, do you honestly believe the drivel you're spouting?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #29 March 21, 2003 Do you?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #30 March 21, 2003 QuoteDo you? Nice retort, proves my point nicely.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #31 March 21, 2003 Quote Bush got scared and ran off. LOL . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #32 March 21, 2003 QuoteFurthermore, I am a history scholar Dave, as an historical scholar you must be worried about the fact that all so called "super-powers" in history got to a point of thinking they were almighty, flexing their musles at will, before they died off? I would think that as an historical scholar you would have some serious reservations with the plan of action the US has been following, since in history it has always led to disaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #33 March 21, 2003 Quoteall so called "super-powers" in history got to a point of thinking they were almighty, flexing their musles at will, before they died off? Yes, I am; however, the US isn't to that point yet. This is not a colonization expedition, this is a conflict to bring an evil regime to an end. Historically speaking, what you're talking about comes about when civilizations starts wars of aggression, unprovoked. There is a stark difference. Examples: Spain France Rome Germany England For a quick, short list that will be easily remembered by a majority of people.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 March 21, 2003 Quotewhen civilizations starts wars of aggression, unprovoked. There is a stark difference. And that is where the whole argument lies for me. There is a definite argument to be made that this could be construed as an unprovoked act of aggression, even if the most vocal posters on this board do not agree with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #35 March 21, 2003 But it's not unprovoked in that they have oil of mass destruction, I mean weapons . Can't be paying over 2 dollars a gallon now !! ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #36 March 21, 2003 Quote And that is where the whole argument lies for me. Then we'll have to just disagree then. I'm not going to try to change your mind, there's been enough of that over the past few weeks and quite frankly, it is tiresome. That is whats really nice about living in the US and using the internet as our medium of communication. We can actively, yet peacably disagree (then post boobies).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick88 0 #37 March 21, 2003 How can anyone possibly "talk" this out with a prick that breaks the limbs of babies in order to get a confession from parents?.How can anyone support saddam? How can we put our faith in an organization that elects libya as head of its human rights commision? Bush and Blair are clearly doing the right thing.I am getting sick and tired of reading these "pro" saddam posts......give him your kids....let him play with them.I am sure that if somebody did any of this to your kids you would want them arrested and prosecuted...correct?I am quite sure you would say..."talk it over....we need the UN's approval to charge them with child abuse" BULLSHIT.I have no respect for apeasers....go and live over there. Frankly you support child abuse,rape and torture if you support this piece of garbage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #38 March 21, 2003 Quote We can actively, yet peacably disagree True and since I have not posted a personal opinion on this matter, we may not even disagree..... Now bring on the boobies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #39 March 21, 2003 One of the funnier things that have happened in the short time that has passed since the start of the war, is that Saddam has been firing some SCUD missles. You know, the ones he said he didn't have, since the UN said he couldn't have them. Another victory for the UN and its policies...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #40 March 21, 2003 *** we need the UN's approval to charge them with child abuse" BULLSHIT [/qoute] so in other words, we'll quite happily be a part of the UN, but as soon as it doesn't suit us, we're doing our own thing?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #41 March 21, 2003 Quote Another victory for the UN and its policies But since the US obviously doesn't need the UN any more ....____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #42 March 21, 2003 Quoteso in other words, we'll quite happily be a part of the UN, but as soon as it doesn't suit us, we're doing our own thing? Well if "doesn't suit us" means they are not taking our national security seriously, then yes. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #43 March 21, 2003 So why be a part of it in the first place?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #44 March 21, 2003 QuoteBut since the US obviously doesn't need the UN any more .... I think you missed that I was being sarcastic.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #45 March 21, 2003 QuoteSo why be a part of it in the first place? I often ask myself the same question. Why? edited to add: And why be a USPA Group Member? Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karma 3 #46 March 21, 2003 Quote That is whats really nice about living in the US and using the internet as our medium of communication. We can actively, yet peacably disagree (then post boobies). In Europe we use internet for that purpose to. Go figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #47 March 21, 2003 but my point is still valid____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #48 March 21, 2003 QuoteNo, but saddam did. Bush got scared and ran off. Do you feel better now that you got that off your chest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #49 March 21, 2003 QuoteRight. Scared. Just keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better. The kind of comments you're making leads me to believe that you really don't have an informed opinion, atleast not an educated one. You can disagree with whatever you want to, that's fine, just prove to me that you came to your conclusions through an educated intellectual process. Not one of sensationalism. And Aggiedave hits a homer!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #50 March 21, 2003 Quote And Aggiedave hits a homer!!! and Dan Castellaneta is looking pissed off ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites