rhino 0 #51 March 18, 2003 Quote Well I meant it metaphorically...I am not in the armed forces. Your kids on other hand might not have a Daddy after this war. Humility is a great things. Stray bullets do not discriminate, they kill Go to your child, look at your expecting wife and tell them: Tic..toc..tic..toc.. Humility is a great thing? I agree.. Please explain to me what great act of service has taught you humility? What sacrifice have you made for others? Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #52 March 18, 2003 We are not defending ourself we are attacking...big difference! -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #53 March 18, 2003 Quote We are not defending ourself we are attacking...big difference! Ummm.... sure........ I won't bother breaking it down for you.... Here is your sign Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #54 March 18, 2003 The President has announced that as of today, he is agreeing to additional >inspectors to be deployed throughout the country of Iraq. > >We will be sending 250,000 additional inspectors into Iraq. >The additional inspectors will include: >24,000 members of the 1st Infantry Division >15,000 members of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) >15,000 members of the 82d Airborne Division >More than 5,000 members of the 4th armored division with their "M1-A1 >all-terrain vehicles" >Additional U.S. Army personnel, as needed for inspections >A variety of U.S. Air Force personnel for aerial recon missions and other >"surveillance" activities >A significant number of United States Marines to aid with inspections >United States Coast Guard personnel to inspect coastlines >An undisclosed number of Rangers, Green Berets, Navy SEALs, Recon Marines, >Delta Force, and other Special Operations personnel to inspect Iraqi >"hideaways" >Special air deliveries to aid the inspections will be made by aircraft from >the USS Constellation, USS George Washington, USS Abraham Lincoln and USS > >Enterprise. > >The President stated: "With these additional inspectors, the inspections >should be completed in a few weeks." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #55 March 18, 2003 Quote Quote We are not defending ourself we are attacking...big difference! Ummm.... sure........ I won't bother breaking it down for you.... Here is your sign Ooorah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christopherm 0 #56 March 18, 2003 We're defending the US and the world, that's what you fail to see. I can't fathom why that's so hard to comprehend. If I started a job in the cubicle next to you and you found out instead of writing memos all day, I was playing with pipe bombs, you would probably tell your boss and I would be fired. Or would you say it's not really fair to fire me because I haven't set one off yet. It might hurt my innocent kids, and if you fired me, I would be more likely to come back and set one off. That's ludicrous.-So, how hard is the ground?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #57 March 18, 2003 Quote The President has announced that as of today, he is agreeing to additional >inspectors to be deployed throughout the country of Iraq. > >We will be sending 250,000 additional inspectors into Iraq. >The additional inspectors will include: >24,000 members of the 1st Infantry Division >15,000 members of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) >15,000 members of the 82d Airborne Division >More than 5,000 members of the 4th armored division with their "M1-A1 >all-terrain vehicles" >Additional U.S. Army personnel, as needed for inspections >A variety of U.S. Air Force personnel for aerial recon missions and other >"surveillance" activities >A significant number of United States Marines to aid with inspections >United States Coast Guard personnel to inspect coastlines >An undisclosed number of Rangers, Green Berets, Navy SEALs, Recon Marines, >Delta Force, and other Special Operations personnel to inspect Iraqi >"hideaways" >Special air deliveries to aid the inspections will be made by aircraft from >the USS Constellation, USS George Washington, USS Abraham Lincoln and USS > >Enterprise. > >The President stated: "With these additional inspectors, the inspections >should be completed in a few weeks." Yeagh baby!!! YEagh!!!!!! More inspectors!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #58 March 18, 2003 Quote We are FUCKED. This will lead to nothing good. The entire World is run by a bunch of clueless loonatics who conned their ways to the top by convincing the grey masses that they are the chosen ones. dude you ahev no idea of what the tree hugger propaganda is doing to you!!!Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #59 March 18, 2003 Way to break it down Chris!!Nope!! I was driving along and the other three just SWELLED right on up.. LOL Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #60 March 18, 2003 >In this war, any civilian deaths will certainly be accidental. Agreed, but it might be tough explaining that to a man whose lost his entire family to an 'accidental' bombing of a refugee center. It might be very tough indeed to convince him that the US is not the enemy, and that he shouldn't seek revenge against us, because we decided that his family was an acceptable loss. And when we can't convince him of that, we will help create the next generation of Al Quaeda. Maybe that's neccessary, but we should accept the risk of another 9/11 now, and tell ourselves that toppling Saddam is worth living with terror for a long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #61 March 18, 2003 Bill you could be entirely right.. You could be entirely wrong. I know many Iraqi's are leaving the cities.. Many Iraqi's in Britain can't wait for Sadham to be gone so they can go home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genie 0 #62 March 18, 2003 Quote Quote True - but if the UK soldiers go in and the war is later determined to be illegal then they are liable for charges for war crimes. Quote That is absolute bullshit.. The UN is officially over.. Offically? when did that happen? I agree completely that it has been discredited, probably beyond redemption but i didnt see Kofi Annan say it was going into Chapter 7 or anything. In addition to which I wasnt referring to the UN, i was referring to the ICC, to which the UK has signed up and the US has not - which is why i was specifically talking about UK soldiers. This is different from the UN because both the US and UK are apparently members of the UN. Apparently. Genie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #63 March 18, 2003 >If I started a job in the cubicle next to you and you found out instead of >writing memos all day, I was playing with pipe bombs, you would probably > tell your boss and I would be fired. That would be a logical thing to do. But if he followed the path the US was taking, he'd ignore the company because their management was too clumsy, go to your house, try to kill you, miss, and kill half your family instead. Then he'd expect the other half of your family to be grateful to him. After all, he tried to kill you, a dangerous man! Killing the rest of your family was just a small accident, completely understandable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #64 March 18, 2003 Quote That would be a logical thing to do. But if he followed the path the US was taking, he'd ignore the company because their management was too clumsy, go to your house, try to kill you, miss, and kill half your family instead. Then he'd expect the other half of your family to be grateful to him. After all, he tried to kill you, a dangerous man! Killing the rest of your family was just a small accident, completely understandable Let's say you run an investigation on this guy in the next cubicle.. And find out he leveled the last building he worked at killing 3,000 people with the same pipe bombs? To ignore that would be suicide.. Here is your sign Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #65 March 18, 2003 I'm all for peace......Hey, give me a "peace" of that action! They just said on CNN that Iraqis are 60% Shiite. I think they better get the "Shiite" outta there.......... Did ya'll see the DOW rock today!!!!!!! Woohoo...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #66 March 18, 2003 Although I don't think our leaders are being totally honest about the reasons for this war, I do reluctantly support the action being taken by the UK, USA and the other Allies. I do think it is very very sad that it has come to this, but time is up and we are going to remove a very evil man from Iraq and maybe make life better in the long run. However what I can't understand is the gung-ho joy that some people seem to be taking at the impending death and destruction about to occur in Iraq. I think this kind of attitude is perverse and sick and is a sad reflection on our society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #67 March 18, 2003 .... Here is your sign LOL . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christopherm 0 #68 March 18, 2003 Apparently, the UN has members that want nothing but to stop any progress. The French remind be of having a stubborn little sibling. Now that they know we are going to war, they have already apologized for any contributions they made to Iraq having WMD. They just want to be included in the aftermath, unfortunately they don't have big enough genitalia to actually help stand up for the world.-So, how hard is the ground?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genie 0 #69 March 18, 2003 Quote Quote I dont live in the US - im not worried about me. I am worried about innocent people being killed Quote Tell that to the 60,000 Iraqi's Sadham gassed.. Tell that to every man and woman that would not play his game that was dipped in acid that over a period of about 5 minutes melts their skin off and kills them slowly. You have no clue who this man is.. Rhino - read all my posts before you jump to conclusions huh? Im not anti this war - im sad its happening, the repercussions on the entire world will be horrific, the number of people who will die - innocent people coz as far as i am concerned all soldiers on all sides in this are innocent - not to mention civilians. And i dont want to watch something like 9/11 on tv again. Thats my point. The liklihood of terrorism increasing in the US from this seems to be really high - hey the CIA FBI and everyone else believes this. Not only will there probably be Sadaams own cells, but it could also be seen as a great opportunity for all the other groups who have issues with the States to go in and stir up sh1t. Because of this probability the freedoms tht have already been curtailed will no doubt be curtailed even more. US citizens will be in fear at home. This i do not welcome. Thats my point. Im not saying this shouldnt happen, i dont have any other answrs and i agree he has to go. But it aint gonna be easy or quick, the reverberations will go on for years. Genie Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #70 March 18, 2003 >Let's say you run an investigation on this guy in the next cubicle.. And > find out he leveled the last building he worked at killing 3,000 people > with the same pipe bombs? So what would you do? Ignore the company and police, go to his house, open up with an AK-47, kill half his family but miss him, thus allowing him to kill a few thousand more people? Is that your idea of a solution? I would remind you that we planned this exact same thing in Afghanistan over a year ago. We killed a bunch of people but missed our stated target, Bin Laden. Here's a better solution. Get the police involved. Tell them about what he's done while not letting him out of your sight. Get the resources of the entire police force to arrest him and, failing that, shoot him. Problem solved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #71 March 18, 2003 Quote Not only will there probably be Sadaams own cells, but it could also be seen as a great opportunity for all the other groups who have issues with the States to go in and stir up sh1t. This reminds me of our SORRY ASS EXCUSE for news agencies.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christopherm 0 #72 March 18, 2003 Alright Bill, you liberals seem to have all the answers, what do you propose we do. Now come on, please take your time and come up with something that hasn't already been tried.-So, how hard is the ground?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #73 March 18, 2003 Quote So what would you do? Ignore the company and police, go to his house, open up with an AK-47, kill half his family but miss him, thus allowing him to kill a few thousand more people? Is that your idea of a solution? I would remind you that we planned this exact same thing in Afghanistan over a year ago. We killed a bunch of people but missed our stated target, Bin Laden. Here's a better solution. Get the police involved. Tell them about what he's done while not letting him out of your sight. Get the resources of the entire police force to arrest him and, failing that, shoot him. Problem solved. We are the police.. The UN is the office managers that don't give a fuck because they think he has been rehabilitated. What would I do? Never give him a chance to enter another office building.. Smoke his rat ass out of the rat hole he is hiding in and feed him to the dogs.. We are the police force and GWB is doing exactly what you suggest... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #74 March 18, 2003 >what do you propose we do. Get agreement on a deadline from the UN. Enforce it. If he disarms, great. He probably won't. If that's the case, then use force to disarm him. >Now come on, please take your time and come up with something > that hasn't already been tried. What's your answer? We've tried war before, even tried to take out the bunker with him in it. Didn't work. What's your new solution? Drop more bombs? Did that get us Bin Laden in Afghanistan over a year ago? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #75 March 18, 2003 45.6 hours and counting It's a sad moment for Saddam and he will much sadder in a couple days.....boo....hoo.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
