I can't find a list of canopies and their pack volumes, do you guys think you could help me out?

[jzzsxm 0]

I grabbed a Wings stock rig for 40% off (W14, they say it fits a PD 190 but I've heard Wings pack a bit tight) and am about to start looking for used (so hopefully they pack a little smaller) canopies.

I know different varieties of canopies pack smaller or larger even if they have the same square footage but an aggregated summary of which packs bigger/smaller than which doesn't seem to exist.

Any insight? Anybody with a W14 that has direct experience with this? Anything in your experience is helpful, I'm reading everything I can to get a better sense of things.

Thanks guys!!!

[likestojump 3]

in my experience (four different W14's). A 190ZP would be rather tight, but not impossible. A 190 hybrid (Silhouette, Pulse) or F111 would be very nice.

I would recommend (in this order) :

Hybrid 190 (like a Silhouette or Pulse)
a 7 cell 190 (like a Spectre or Triathlon)
a well used 190 9 cell ZP
I would definitely stay away from dacron lined 190 canopies (Strictly due to the pack volume. Dacron lines in themselves are nice)

[jzzsxm 0]

Awesome! That's super useful, thanks a ton

[SkyPiggie 0]

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I know different varieties of canopies pack smaller or larger even if they have the same square footage but an aggregated summary of which packs bigger/smaller than which doesn't seem to exist.

Check the back of a Para-Gear catalog where exactly such a chart exists.

[jzzsxm 0]

Not seeing it in the back of the 2012-2013 one, is it hiding elsewhere?

[theonlyski 8]

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Not seeing it in the back of the 2012-2013 one, is it hiding elsewhere?

*looks at the 12-13 catalog*

Hmm, sumbitch, sure isn't there!

This should help:
http://www.paragear.com/canopyspecs/canopysizing.PDF

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[jzzsxm 0]

WOW!

Alright, call off the dogs, this is exactly what I was looking for (at least upon a cursory glance it is).

The wings-specific info was also very very much appreciated.

Thanks everyone!

[Freeflaw 0]

i stuffed anything from a 266 FOX to a 150 Storm into my 190 Sabre2 fitted Wings. That's the beauty of a closing loop that is anchored to the reserve tray. But I would advise against doing what I did.

[strife 0]

I got this from aerodyne on the pilot zpx as an fyi

Pilot 188= 393cu.in
Pilot 168= 379cu.in

[parachutist 2]

Here's some good info about canopy volumes from Rigging Innovations/PIA:
http://www.rigginginnovations.com/files/Docuemnts/Other/PIA%20Canopy%20Volume.pdf

Chris

[JohnRich 4]

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Not seeing it in the back of the 2012-2013 one, is it hiding elsewhere?

Page 259 of the 10-11 catalog.

[theonlyski 8]

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Not seeing it in the back of the 2012-2013 one, is it hiding elsewhere?

Page 259 of the 10-11 catalog.

Doesn't really help if he doesn't have a 2 year old catalog.

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[hokierower 0]

I'm a little late to this but I have a Wings W14. I've had 3 canopies in it:

Spectre 190 - Very Tight Fit
Spectre 170 - Snug Fit
Sabre2 150 - Fits Well

[jurgencamps 0]

http://www.pia.com/piapubs/TSDocuments/TS-104CanopyVolume.pdf

[gowlerk 2,246]

I have assembled two W14s this year. Both with pdr176 and new Sabre 2 190s. The manufacturer recommends this combo, but I found that the 190 was a tighter fit than I would recommend. Not for safety reasons, it's just that this setup is usually for new jumpers with limited packing experience. This is a hard way to learn. Of course on the other hand it makes moving down one size an easy move.

We have a few people with this combo here, and all of them are pretty happy with it.

Ken

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