mountainman 0 #1 March 13, 2003 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31510 LOL. I'm speechless. http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #2 March 13, 2003 Yep. The story around this one will end up being one of "tales told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." It's unfortunate that impeachment has become the threat of anyone who doesn't like what a president is doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #3 March 14, 2003 QuoteIraqi workers displayed a controversial drone to the public. Labeled a threat and "a smoking gun" by Secretary of State Colin Powell, The Washington Post reported the drone was held together by duct tape and rubber bands and was powered by a "weed-wacker" motor. Weed wacker motors would be great for this kind of application. - Cheap - Readily available - Can operate with all kinds of debris in the air - Can operate at many angles Some ultralights are powered by chainsaw engines! And as far as duct tape is concerned, has anybody ever seen jumpship *without* duct tape? Duct tape is like The Force: It has a dark side and a light side, and it holds the universe together. Peter (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blewaway5 0 #4 March 14, 2003 I concur whole-heartedly, Bill. Kind of like with Clinton. I may not exactly like what he did since he was/is a married man, but that's his business and it didn't have jack schitt to do with running the country. I still can't believe how far that one got. Truman Sparks for President Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnPolk 0 #5 March 14, 2003 clinton was almost impeached because he lied under oath. not because he was messing with interns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blewaway5 0 #6 March 14, 2003 Oh, and I agree with you on that one, Titanium. The first thing I thought when I read that about the drones was. "Hmm, that's a lot like making explosives from common household items." It seemed like efficient, cheap, effective engineering to me. *shrug* That's just what I thought, though Truman Sparks for President Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blewaway5 0 #7 March 14, 2003 Okay, fine, but he lied about diddling the intern, right? A married man lied about having an affair is what I get out of it. Hey, I wasn't Clinton's biggest fan, I actually think the man's a sleaze ball, but it still struck me as a stupid reason to impeach a president. Did it show a certain lack of moral character? Yep. Would it have been right to kick him out of office over it. I don't think so. Just my personal opinion Truman Sparks for President Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #8 March 14, 2003 >it still struck me as a stupid reason to impeach a president. Yep. To me, the biggest shame of that was not what he did, or what he got away with, but that a man who lied about cheating on his wife is now a matter that the entire US government should devote weeks to arguing about. Surely we have better things to do. Impeachment is a way to protect the country from people who abuse the power of the presidency, not to get rid of a president you don't like because he fooled around with an intern (and lied about it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #9 March 14, 2003 i can't believe my eyes. i'll admit, some of his strategy is questionable but i draw the line here. these legislators are nuts. political "red tape" is all this is.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #10 March 14, 2003 Not even to mention the incredible amount of cash that was wasted in investigation. Like ANY President didn't think about boinking some chick in the oval office, the first thing when he walked into the place.......I'm betting the train of thought goes something like this: "No shit? I'm the most powerful man on the planet?" "HMMM....I wonder what Marilyn Monroe would look like bent over that desk?" So for what 90% of males would do in Slick Willie's position (no pun intended) they spend how many millions on investigating?JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #11 March 14, 2003 Not so stupid if you look at the fact that the Democratic party lost control of Congress under Clinton's watch. Had this played out in Britain a vote of "No Confidence" could have ended the whole ordeal with much less fanfare, and much more effectively. The sleeze could have been removed with nothing more than a "Sir, your time is up." FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shabakazaa 0 #12 March 14, 2003 To be fair, what the hell do you think our drones are made of? Titanium? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #13 March 14, 2003 Bill, I think the issue was that he lied under oath, not that he lied about cheating on his wife. I thought that entire deal (impeachment) was a crock of shit too and I couldn't stand the guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgross 1 #14 March 14, 2003 This is TOOOO funny. I don't think the liberal crazies realize he has a right to attack Iraq under the "91" cease fire agreement which was breeched by Iraq. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #15 March 14, 2003 > I think the issue was that he lied under oath, not that he lied about > cheating on his wife. He lied under oath about cheating on his wife. There's no excuse for lying under oath, but I would hope most people can see the difference between "I didn't fool around with that chick" and "I performed illegal surveillance on my political opponents with US funds" or "I funded an illegal war without telling congress." One's a stupid lie that most men have told at one time or another; the others are serious issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgross 1 #16 March 14, 2003 I would hope people could see that. I hated Clinton, but COME'ON ... If you were asked publically if you cheated on your wife, you would have to lie. If it affected his job that is one thing, but this is his private life and none of my business. I really never wanted to hear about the "Cigar" thing or a spotted dress. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #17 March 14, 2003 Quote He lied under oath about cheating on his wife. There's no excuse for lying under oath, but I would hope most people can see the difference between "I didn't fool around with that chick" and "I performed illegal surveillance on my political opponents with US funds" or "I funded an illegal war without telling congress." One's a stupid lie that most men have told at one time or another; the others are serious issues. Agreed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #18 March 14, 2003 As a military person myself to say bad things about my commander-in-chief as well as saying he should be removed from office is grounds for a court marshal. In war times and extreme cases it could be punishable by death. I say F*&K ALL OF YOU anti war people who agree with this article. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgross 1 #19 March 14, 2003 well said my friend, well said. These people need to get out of there bubble and come back to earth now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #20 March 14, 2003 QuoteAs a military person myself to say bad things about my commander-in-chief as well as saying he should be removed from office is grounds for a court marshal. Was that true before Bush was in office, too? Quotewar times and extreme cases it could be punishable by death So if we're at war and I call GWB an idiot it's treason? Bullshit. The president is the commander in chief, but he is not the country. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #21 March 14, 2003 QuoteWas that true before Bush was in office, too? I do believe so, Wendy. Not sure, but I recall hearing about that when educating myself about Viet Nam... QuoteSo if we're at war and I call GWB an idiot it's treason? Bullshit. The president is the commander in chief, but he is not the country. I think it has to do with if you were in the military, dissention among the ranks and that kind of thing. Again, not sure, but this isn't new (I don't think). I am sure some of our active/retired guys/ladies can give you better info, I just wanted to chime in here. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #22 March 14, 2003 QuoteWas that true before Bush was in office, too? QuoteI do believe so, Wendy. Not sure, but I recall hearing about that when educating myself about Viet Nam... I was thinking more about Bill Clinton, who was also commander-in-chief. There were people saying that didn't really apply in his case. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #23 March 14, 2003 Oh. I thought you were asking if GWB had changed the policies. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #24 March 15, 2003 looked like an interesting read, as I scrolled through it at a 100 bilion billion miles an hour. way to much work to even read 1 sentance for my taste, but i'm sure it was quite interesting. in factomundo. I'm just post whoring to get my #'s up, tired of being an old hand.whats worse than liberals is those tree hugging hippies that put fuckin huge nails in trees to send shrapnel into the heads of chainsaw operators.fuck it, 40 oz to freedom an what not, Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #25 March 15, 2003 Quote I was thinking more about Bill Clinton, who was also commander-in-chief. LMAO, woooo! That is a good one.A member of the military can say what they want about the CIC as long as they don't associate their statements with the military in any way. IOW you can't use your rank, be in uniform, etc. during the statement. Oh, and as long as they don't threaten to kill him. That will earn a visit by the SS post haste. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites