FallingTiger 0 #1 September 7, 2012 So my first couple of night jumps are coming up soon, and I've been reading up on ways to make myself more visible. I've already got chem lights and a strobe for my helmet, but I wanted to light up my canopy, too. I made a holster for a small AA flashlight to attach to the back of my front (mini) risers. A small loop of rope attaches the holster to the loop at the top of the riser, and a velcro strap holds the bottom flush against the riser. The triangle-shaped "pillow" on the back is designed to angle it out slightly to shine past the slider, and a second velcro strap across the top secures the flashlight from falling out. The holster is packed while attached to the risers so that it can be turned on immediately after opening. Did I miss anything in terms of safety? Once it's open it should work perfectly, but I want to make sure I didn't overlook something it could interfere with like opening, cutaway, etc. I know there's always a danger in adding something to your rig, but I tried to design this with safety as a priority. I attached some pictures to give you a better idea of everything. Thanks for the help!"I'm gonna die young, but I'm gonna be a legend." -Ricky Clinton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 September 7, 2012 Quotebut I wanted to light up my canopy, too Why? Ive only done a couple nightjumps, we were required to have a small flashlight so you can check your canopy. After that, turn off light. You don't want to ruin anyone's nightvision and you do not want to attach anything to your canopy/risers/bag/bridle/.... Aside from the small flashlight for your canopy check, just get a couple big chemlights. Make sure you tape those up until right before exit. Get a small chemlight for your alti, again taped off on one side, or get an alti that has a backlight itself + new battery. There, all done. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #3 September 7, 2012 Quote Quote but I wanted to light up my canopy, too Why? There, all done. it looks coolI concur on not attaching it to the risers. I have however attached a flashlight to the back of my wrist with Tape, when you are on toggles it points up and illuminates the canopy and it is never pointed at any other jumpers.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #4 September 7, 2012 That's extremely thorough. Duct or gaffers tape would work too... In the few night jumps I've made, I've never found a need to have a light to look up at my canopy. It is close enough to see whether by natural light or whatever is coming off any glowsticks taped to your body. Most of the time you'll know without looking whether you have a malfunctioned canopy or not. Scenarios where you might want a light would be very rare, and usually can be dealt with some other way. (E.g., in the rare case of a canopy tear, a control check should usually be a sufficient test of the canopy, rather than a visual evaluation of just how many inches long the tear is.) Still I can see that a light shining up at the canopy (even if towards a corner) would be really good for letting others spot your canopy! As when attaching a glowstick to a riser, if the light were turned on before the jump, it would help find the canopy in the rare but potentially expensive case of a night cutaway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #5 September 7, 2012 I have taped a flashlight to the back of my helmet pointing up toward the conopy but the problem is you can't tell if it is on because when you look up at the conopy the light shines back behind you. Another time I put one of those forehead lights on my arm and that seemed ok but they are not very strong lights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #6 September 7, 2012 That's a negative ghostrider. Try to avoid messing with the 'chain of command', that being the anything from the risers on up. Also, your light stands a good chance of being ejected on opening anyway. The forces and speeds that a risers travels during opening are quite high, and engineering a mount that will withstand those forces would be tough. Best case scenario, the light falls harmlessly away. Worst case scenarios - the light comes off and hits you in the face, or it tangles with your toggle/brake line while in the riser trough and gives you a mal. A small flashlight will only cast a small beam of light. If you really want to check the whole canopy, you would need to pan the light from side to side and front to back, much easier to do if it's taped to your arm. In the end, as others have mentioned, you can just look up and see your canopy. I have manu night jumps and none with a flashlight. In terms of visibility to other jumpers, the strobe/glowsticks are enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 September 7, 2012 I was wandering why you would want to attach a Fleshlight to your risers On one of the night demos I did, we had a light on top of the helmet, it would illuminate the canopy so that the public would see us properly scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 September 7, 2012 I'm going to agree with Dave here. Attaching it to a riser after deployment would be OK. Before deployment? No. Let's not tempt fate with additional snag points on deployment. I tried using hand-help mag lites but they didn't do anything for illuminating the canopy. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 September 7, 2012 Interesting - was your grandma mad at you when you took her drapes away for project materials? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingTiger 0 #10 September 7, 2012 Quote Interesting - was your grandma mad at you when you took her drapes away for project materials? Haha. It was actually leftover material from mom's drapes, but close enough. It was a strong material for the right price, so I can handle the looks The point of the design wasn't so much to illuminate the canopy for visual inspection as it was to make myself visible to others. 7 of my 9 cells are white, so 2 of these would really make my canopy glow. I had planned on testing these with a higher pull during the day in case something did go wrong, but if the general consensus is to leave 'em off till after opening I'll go that route. Wrapping the velcro strap around the riser after opening would only add a couple of seconds anyway, but it'd still provide the visibility I'm going for. EDIT: And for the record, yes I do have too much time on my hands."I'm gonna die young, but I'm gonna be a legend." -Ricky Clinton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #11 September 7, 2012 Forget putting on the riser. Listen to your elders. We used to LOTS of night jumps and figured it all out a long time ago. I've seen lights put everywhere. Most didn't work. I've seen flashlight on feet as landing lights. I've even seen red rotating battery operated 'gumball' lights on top of helmets. For others remember you need a strobe out after opening. I made some red led altimeter lights from Radio shack parts for Alt III and II. That and a chem light on my helmet is all I ever needed. Enjoy the dark. I've seen lights on risers to find canopies. They rarely stayed on and are a hazard. If anything some guys used to bust a chem light and through it a cell of their canopy before packing. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #12 September 14, 2012 Hi Ever see a blind jumper, all thier jumps are night jumpsSome use a radio and jump with friend that can tell them when to chop the main. But we all know that sometimes the radio's don't work. Was at a boogie and watched blind John chop his main at LP without waiting for a radio call. Peeps asked him why he chopped it? "because it didn't sound and feel right when it opened" A full moon could also help if your concerned about checking your canopy and even make it easier to find if you have to chop it. In the "dark". R. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites