waster 0 #1 February 13, 2003 I don't want these post to degenerate into a slanging match, but with all this talk of war against terrorism that has been flying around since 9/11, I would just like to ask what America has done to help England against the IRA? Don't get me wrong, I, along with virtually everyone in the world was totally horrified when 9/11 occured, it was a senseless waste of life. But maybe America will realise now what England has had to put up with from the IRA. The fear you guys feel now for your future and the safety of your children and loved ones is what England has had to put up with for decades. Not very nice is it? But, whilst our PM is backing you all the way against this new wave of terror, what have your Presidents done to help England against the IRA? Sent money to these vile people so that they can purchase weapons to kill our young, brave soldiers. It is not very nice to open the paper in the morning to hear of young 18/19 year old soldiers having their heads taken off by sniper rifles. But America has ignored our plight, despite us being "cousins", and has the blood of British men, women and children on her hands. Perhaps you can now see why we are not as much on your side as you expect us to be. It seems that America doesn't help other people unless it directly benefits them, maybe America can start turning their attention to the IRA, one of the most dangerous, vicious, well trained group of terrorists in the world, after they have dealt with Iraq? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #2 February 13, 2003 "I don't want these post to degenerate into a slanging match," I've got to admire your optimism..... "what have your Presidents done to help England against the IRA? Sent money to these vile people so that they can purchase weapons" I haven't seen that, quite the opposite in fact. "But America has ignored our plight, despite us being "cousins", and has the blood of British men, women and children on her hands." I don't see how you can justify this statement. I've seen more 'fund raising' by the IRA on British soil than I have ever seen in the US. Just because an individual chooses to support their chosen 'freedom fighter' does not imply government consent, or even support. "maybe America can start turning their attention to the IRA," The nature and tone of your post doesn't offer the colonial cousins an awful lot of incentive to comply with your request. You need to get your head out of your own arse if you are seriously implying that the American presidency, or even the people of the US are responsible for our troubles in Northern Ireland, and our own inability to achieve a worthwhile and lasting solution to them. I think you are trolling, so I'm just as bad feeding you, but I couldn't let these inflammatory lies go, before the colonial cousins wake up and read the shite you have posted.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #3 February 13, 2003 The US Governemnt has NEVER provided ANY support to the IRA. Quite the opposite in fact. The FBI has arrested several IRA bad guys over the years. As for monitary support to "the cause", well most folks that throw their money into the silver pot at the end of the bar have no idea what it is for, let alone know anything about "the troubles" in N.I. And don't think that the IRA is the only party keeping the toubles going either. There is plenty of blame to go around in that conflict, and if neither side had guns or bombs, they would be using stick and stones to try and kill each other. Josh a proud American of Irish discent who has never put money in the potAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 February 13, 2003 While £18M a year came into Republican terrorist coffer from NORAID and other fund raising organisations in the US the US government was not helping the PIRA. The Americans helped to track down and capture and gain useful intelligence in the war against the Republicans. Trolling isn't nice, so please don't crank the Yank's! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #5 February 13, 2003 Sad sad post. And I have to agree with what nacmac, jdhill and others have said already. What you've probably seen is a news bite/movie where a couple of people are at a rally for some Sinn Fein person. A small room with people that are suddenly Irish for the day. Ireland is tribalism gone bad and it's religiion more than anything else that's the problem. The situation could have been sorted alot earlier on but wasn't. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waster 0 #6 February 13, 2003 Quote The nature and tone of your post doesn't offer the colonial cousins an awful lot of incentive to comply with your request. Hey, i was just saying that maybe America should help us out like we have helped them in their crusade. I know we have totally ballsed up the Ireland situation, maybe America can provide us with a new angle of attack against these terrorists. The reason I have posted this is because I have personally witnessed Americans flagging support for PIRA. It pisses me off, so I apologise for perhaps posting something that attacked all Americans for supporting the IRA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #7 February 13, 2003 Quotewe have helped them in their crusade Just a note... The War on Terrorism is not the US's crusade alone. Many nations joined the fight before being asked to, the UK being one of the first. Nor should it be the crusade of the US, it should be the crusade of all who love peace and freedom. JoshAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #8 February 13, 2003 Och, come on up to Glasgow some time, maybe take in a Rangers- Celtic match. You will probably see all sorts of disgraceful sectarian bigotry, and an equal amount of IRA/UDA shit in action....We live in emotional times....with strong feelings on both sides. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 February 13, 2003 I think that alot of the romantisim spun around the PIRA to fool decendents of the diaspara was blown away when they caught a ASU training FARC in Columbia. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #10 February 13, 2003 Yes and old firm game would put it in perspective. Maybe meet the those nice Adair folks that just came over. They're probably feeling lonely and would like to make some new friends. Won't comment on the quality of the football though. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #11 February 13, 2003 QuoteWar...should be the crusade of all who love peace and freedom. Sorry, couldn't resist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
