-SK- 0 #1 October 12, 2012 I thought I heard this somewhere but am not sure; will I have a greater chance of line twists during an opening with less-than-ideal body position, on a smaller canopy? Assuming make/model is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancoR 0 #2 October 12, 2012 yes. Less mass means there is less energy required to get something to twist. Smaller canopy means higher wingloading, higher wingloading means more speed. If one side of your canopy opens a little faster on opening than the other it will start moving forward faster leaving the other one behind --> Twist. I am sure there are more technical reasons and i am sure you know there are ohter downsides associated with a higher wingloading.If it does not cost anything you are the product. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #3 October 13, 2012 ...and then, now that you have twists, whatever it was going to do, it's now doing harder. If that is diving with you on your back, whirling in circles, then it's now doing that a lot quicker too!-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 11 #4 October 13, 2012 High performance canopy will give you a high performance malfunction.2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
demon4o7 0 #5 October 14, 2012 Is this true even if the canopy isn't elliptical? Ie hornet 190 openings compared to a hornet 150 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #6 October 14, 2012 Higher wingload = greater chance of death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-SK- 0 #7 October 14, 2012 I suspected as much... my landings have always been spot on but my openings haven't been the best; have had a lot of line twists and off-headings. As much as I would like to downsize, I have come to the realization I need to sort out my opening issues first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #8 October 14, 2012 QuoteIs this true even if the canopy isn't elliptical? Ie hornet 190 openings compared to a hornet 150 1. Yes. Smaller canopies are more sensitive to control input (intended or otherwise) and more likely to end up turning if you have line twists. 2. All modern canopies are elliptical to varying degrees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #9 October 14, 2012 QuoteI suspected as much... my landings have always been spot on but my openings haven't been the best; have had a lot of line twists and off-headings. As much as I would like to downsize, I have come to the realization I need to sort out my opening issues first. This goes into the top-ten of sensible things ever said on this website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willi91 0 #10 October 17, 2012 Quote Quote I suspected as much... my landings have always been spot on but my openings haven't been the best; have had a lot of line twists and off-headings. As much as I would like to downsize, I have come to the realization I need to sort out my opening issues first. This goes into the top-ten of sensible things ever said on this website. Agreed! I applaud this attitude towards downsiszing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #11 October 18, 2012 Literally? No, all canopies line twist about the same in my experience. However, line twists on a highly loaded canopy are a much bigger deal since they are sometimes not recoverable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #12 October 22, 2012 I agree with Bill. Even then, I've had linetwists under my 67 a few times now loaded at 3.3 and had zero issues. Of course IF it spins it's going to go wild but I find a lot of pilots freak out when they see linetwists and just start kicking making the problem way worse. A lot of that has to do with the fear introduced about line twists in recent years. In my experience just chilling out and staying symmetrical during the ENTIRE opening sequence is key, regardless of linetwists. Then get gently start to get out of them.Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites