rmsmith 1 #26 January 15, 2003 QuoteDave's on his own now; he can't quit because he has bills to pay and he doesn't have money put away to get him through until he can get another job. He's not ready to be on his own yet, Lisa. You need to send him off to school, like Cal Poly for example. He'd have fun there on the central coast, and there are plenty of hotties there to date that will eventually have good jobs too. In California, the odds are against him without a college degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #27 January 15, 2003 QuoteYou need to send him off to school, like Cal Poly for example. He'd have fun there on the central coast Wish I could make him go to school, but that's got to be his decision. All I can do is give him advice when he asks for it, be his sounding board when he needs it and love him a lot. He'll get it figured out eventually. Central coast? Nah. We lived in Cambria, San Simeon, Paso Robles and Atascadero before coming down here; neither of us care to ever move back there. Can't afford to for one thing, for another the kind of people that live there now have ruined that whole area imho... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ducky 0 #28 January 15, 2003 Quote My suggestion for him is to buy a good quality micro cassette recorder, voice activated. Always have it in his pocket, with an external mike if possible. I'm serious here. If he gets canned, he can pull it out as evidence and counter sue, or if it gets too bad to handle while he's working, he can use it to get the guy canned, as well as damages. ditto....ditto....ditto... I have one thing to add to all the good advice already. As Mother who cares about her son a great deal obviously be cautious. Be certain that you are hearing everything he tells you correctly and that he is in fact telling you everything. I'm not saying doubt your son, but just saying be cautious. Sons who are close to their Mom know that there is no more understanding or sorrowful ear than Moms. We feel free to vent to Mom because she will always listen and always see our side. Mom will always be willing to offer advice and stand up for us. When things are bad she knows, but sometimes we might leave out minor details that could affect the whole ordeal. It sounds to me like his boss is a first class asshole, but is your son a true angel?? If it got bad enough that he quits and goes for unemployment or even sues would he have a stellar record going for him????? Is there some possible leverage his boss has against him that lets his boss feel like he can get away with all of this?? For example has he called in sick a time or 2 lately or been late a few times?? However minor it may be it is still ammo they can use against him if he were to make a case. kwakSometimes your the bug, sometimes your the windshield. Sometimes your the hammer sometimes your the nail. Question is Hun, Do you wanna get hammered or do you wanna get nailed????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 January 15, 2003 Quote the kind of people that live there now have ruined that whole area imho.. You mean the whole area as in California, right?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronMike 0 #30 January 15, 2003 QuoteCentral coast? Nah. We lived in Cambria..........the kind of people that live there now have ruined that whole area imho Im telling Heather you said that! (When she gets back from Germany) Mike (I liked Cambria) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #31 January 15, 2003 QuoteCentral coast? Nah. We lived in Cambria, San Simeon, Paso Robles and Atascadero before coming down here; neither of us care to ever move back there. Can't afford to for one thing, for another the kind of people that live there now have ruined that whole area imho... Well, it's a much better area than USC has to offer for example. Looking past the area issue, Cal Poly's a good school, and it's the right kind of place to meet the ladies. I have a number of friends who dipped into the section-8 ladies and ruined their lives for years. Environment isn't everything, but it is a major factor that shouldn't be overlooked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
callahan 0 #32 January 15, 2003 As everyone said , its easier to quit . I wouldn't drive a truck that was overloaded or had bad brakes . I've seen rims and tires come off of the rear axle on plowtrucks that were overloaded . I've got another friend that broke his back when the nitrogen tanker he was driving came off of the fifth wheel and ragdolled him over the steering wheel . Before this happened , he'd have the dot guys meet him somewhere and do a spot inspection but the company knew it costed less to pay the fines then to repair the fifth wheel correctly . He paid the price . He lives with alot of pain now and whatever the setllement was , it wasn't worth it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #33 January 15, 2003 QuoteCal Poly's a good school Sure is. Depending on the major, it's also one of the hardest schools to get accepted to in California. Unfortunately, he didn't have good enough grades in high school to make it worth the effort required to apply. Know how expensive it is to live in San Luis Obispo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #34 January 17, 2003 Thanks for the advice, here and in pm's, everyone! He called a lawyer today and got nowhere; they didn't even want to talk to him. He also called Larry's supervisor and asked to set up a meeting but was blown off. So this evening I advised him to gather up everything that belongs to the company and put it in a bag, go to work 5 minutes early tomorrow and drop the bag in front of his supervisor, say "I quit" and then turn around and walk out the door. He knows not to say anything else other than "I quit" and he knows that he needs to drive out of the parking lot very slowly and carefully. Once he's off the property, I told him to call Larry's supervisor and tell him he quit and the reasons why (the sexual harrassment hasn't stopped and he's been told to drive unsafe equipment), then take all his documentation and go directly to the EDD (unemployment department) and get a claim started. Also told him to have his cell phone handy when he quits. If Larry so much as touches him immediately call 911; my dad (a former sheriff's deputy) concurred with me on that advice. I let him know that if he needs food or money to pay bills until he can either get another job or get some money from unemployment he can come to me. Also let him know that he can move back in with me if it comes down to it. It's a big relief for me to know that he's not going to be abused by that dick ever again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #35 January 17, 2003 I think that's exactly perfect. I suggest OSHA too, maybe even before EDD. Quitting over being ordered to risk your life is pretty reasonable. Good momster! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,445 #36 January 17, 2003 Sounds fine to me, too. Let us know how it goes. I have a son just about the same age, and can really imagine this. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #37 January 17, 2003 "I quit" will be the wisest move he ever makes. I wish I had the courage to quit some shitty jobs much earlier. One job with a meddling, trouble-making boss drove me to drink. Another stressful job gave me an ulcer. Stress can kill! No job pays well enough for that level of stress. Far better to walk away while you still can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
