Deuce 1 #1 November 25, 2002 Well, if you're gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough. I've got about 350 jumps, about 300 on my Spectre 170. I am videoing tandems as of recently, so getting a second rig means having the opportunity to do more tandem video work. My first rig has a 176 reserve and the 170 main. New rig: 143 reserve, 150 main. I get the new rig last week, and it is BEAUTIFUL. I zip out to the DZ Saturday, there's a tandem video waiting and I jump the first rig, cause I don't want to be distracted by the new gear when somebody is paying me to make them a star. (That was about the smartest thing I did all day). First jump on the new rig I video a fun 4 way in my camera suit. Look, the smaller rig is just so much lighter and more comfortable, I'm already figuring out what rifles I'm selling to finance another one. We break off in beautiful puffy industrial haze that I will refer to as "clouds" just for the sake of discussion, I pull and have a very nice Spectre opening. Under canopy a little high, as planned about 5500'. The 4 way is open, no reserve rides for them or me. Coolio. Oh! I got a black center stripe and a black slider, that's right! They've changed the way the brakes stow, and I've got the thin risers. Pop the brakes, vroom! Hey, snappy! Left toggle turn, whoa! Right toggle turn, Whee! Rear risers to stall, yowsa! Oh look! A cloud canyon! Dive with the front risers, good golly I've got me an F-16 on afterburner! I can hold a riser dive indefinitely! Burn right through the canyon, release the risers and pull brakes to skim right under the deck. I'm actually leaving a little wake on the underside of the cloud! What the hell must it be like to fly a Velocity?! Nah, I'm too old for that, and this is huge fun! Who woulda thought that 20 less feet of ZP would make such a difference? Set up on final, little bit of front riser to get some more speed, release, flare, flare, flare, vroom! Wow, I got more flare now than on my 170! I'm giggling as I pick this little thing up and walk back to the hangar. I lay the chute out and pack it myself, everything on the first try. Not too bad! The bag sure looks puny, but since since the canopy's smaller it's actually easier to control and get into the bag. Who's up for a hoop jump? ME! We get the whole plane, 14 of us. The hoop and the holders go, and I'm third out the door. Harlan gets through, Jim gets through, I get cut off my Alan, but heck he's Alan, I get through and then video the others. About 10 of us get through the hoop before break off. Pull, I really like this new 150! I don't know about the black slider, but I'll get used to it. Wow this thing turns. A little teeny bit of wind, toward the hangars, so I set up over the hangar, pull down on the left riser to set up my final, pull down the right riser and WOW! this thing can DIVE! Landing area is clear, release the risers and prepare to flare TOO LATE! OH SHIT THIS IS GONNA HURT! MAYBE I CAN PULL MY FEET WAY UP AND WHAM! CRACK! WHAT AM I DOING WAY THE HELL BACK UP IN THE AIR? OH MY FREAKING KNEES! OH CRAP DID I BREAK MY BACK? OH CRAP IT'S GOING TO HURT AGAIN....WHUMP. Well, I'm not dead, again. Fingers and toes wiggle so I haven't severed the spinal cord, I can move my legs, so even though it really, really hurts I probably haven't broken the kneecaps. I can't stand up, but I signal I'm OK. Vic undoes my leg straps, takes off my video helmet and I catch my breath. Oh, that's right, I'm not supposed to do stupid shit like that when I'm on the second jump of a brand new small canopy. I start laughing. Hey, I didn't break my video camera, and I didn't scrub my new rig, either. I did manage to tear straight through the double layer of cordura over the knees of my Tonysuit, though. Joel helps me stand up, and surprisingly my knees don't instantly bend the wrong way, like an ostrich's. I walk off the DZ with my arm on Vic's shoulder. My friends in the hangar cheer, and don't even give me a "Fuck Him". I get ice out of my cooler (I brought beer, the new rig) and start freezing both my knees. I proceed to find out who my friends are as they come over to talk to me about how I'm stupid. Vic takes my video camera and brings me back a video of the divots I left in the ground when I hit. I take a couple of giant ibuprofens and ice my knees and talk to my friends for a couple of hours. I talk to Shannon for quite a while, and I like her even more. No thanks I don't need a ride home, no thanks, please don't call my wife. Oh yeah, I've been hurt much worse before, yes I've been stupid my whole life. The last load is up? Joel gives me a hand up and lo and behold I can walk. I walk out to the landing area with Connie and she tells me how I'm stupid. Loveable, but really, really stupid sometimes.I drive home, tell my wife the reader's digest version of what happened, and she asks me if I'll be better in time to jump the day after Thanksgiving.I'm still swollen, and the bruises should be magnificent, but I'll be OK. I've got the best friends and the best family. I'm really, really lucky. I'm a skydiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beachbum 0 #2 November 25, 2002 sure glad it didn't turn out worse for ya, and hope you heal up enough to make those turkey jumps! I'm glad you posted this ... just shows that in spite of all the talk about downsizing cautiously and being conservative under a canopy that is new to you, even someone with several hundred jumps can forget the advice while in the throes of the joy that a new toy brings ... hopefully will save someone else doing the same or worse ... thanks!As long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #3 November 25, 2002 Stupid. Glad you're gonna be okay. Post some pics of those bruises for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SudsyFist 0 #4 November 25, 2002 damn, deuce. glad to hear you're ok! on friday, i was about 3 or 4 centimetres from stupid landing my new ride... so i'll settle for moron. steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #5 November 25, 2002 I'd rather hear a stupid man's tale than a dead man's any day. Glad you're okay. It don't suprise that Alan cut you off either.....it's just Alan. Tell him I said hi. Peace, JJJJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cornholio 0 #6 November 25, 2002 Selfish me thinking - "Damn, there goes my ride to ELOY!!!! " J/K Bro. Glad to hear that it was just a bumpy landing. How are you feeling today ? Does it hurt worse ? Oh yea, and since I'm a friend.....WTF were you thinking doing front riser dives on final on a brand-new, smaller-than-before canopy ?? I'm really glad to hear that you didn't break anything and can't wait to see the video and the divots!! Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #7 November 25, 2002 Quote Post some pics of those bruises for us. Sheesh!!!__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mouth 0 #8 November 25, 2002 Rest and take it easy, please. Remember your promise and I'm going to hold you to it....broken leg or not! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #9 November 25, 2002 I am not happy to hear about this buddy But you're ok and you you learned that smaller, faster, easier to pack, etc. can equate to broken body...Take it easy man, heal quick, and please be safe. I know you got good people watchin over you there in the east bay But don't make me come over and put signs on your forehead that say "Duece may not jump cannopy's smaller than this size" with a big # "170"... People have no idea how lucky they are sometimes when all they get are bruised egos and bruised bones... You be lucky bud! I been there too though... Well thanks for not hurting your self cause if you did really badly then we would resuscitate you just so we could hurt you ourselves... j/k Be good, be safe.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #10 November 25, 2002 QuoteSheesh!!! What? I've found that photographic evidence of the physical results of a friend (hell, even an enemy) doing a stupid thing does wonders to make others think at least once before doing said stupid thing themselves. Learn from others mistakes. It's evolution, baby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildblue 7 #11 November 25, 2002 QuotePost some pics of those bruises for us I can see it now - da bytch starts collecting pictures of nasty bruises, breaks, scrtaches, etc for when someone wants to buy a canopy they shouldn't have from her: "Yeah, so I know I'm ready for a Velocity..." "Great! What color do you want?" "I think neon green with- " "No no... I mean your legs..." *hold pictures up to their legs for sizing* "... yeah, that blood red color would probably look pretty good on you" edit: haha! she really is going to do it!it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #12 November 25, 2002 Never mind the pics, get the video up here Glad to hear your ok though -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #13 November 25, 2002 Sure I'll learn from someone else's mistakes, but do I really need a pic of it? __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #14 November 25, 2002 Duece: it's the BLACK slider! "Jet It!" glad to hear your ok, take care, be safe, and resists the temptation to grab those front risers! --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #15 November 25, 2002 Quote Sure I'll learn from someone else's mistakes, but do I really need a pic of it? Simple solution, Ivan...don't click the attachments, and don't do anything that will get the Canopy Nazis after you (I love the CN's!!!!). Many people are visual learners...and this is a great lesson. I'm just sorry I didn't get any photos of the black bloody bruises which lasted for months from my crash to demonstrate that FLARING at the right time is a good idea.As to you, Deucy, glad you hopped away from it. And most especially glad you're willing to share the story so that others can learn... But will you be able to jump on Friday? That's the question... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gemini 0 #16 November 25, 2002 Ummhhh.... A "Dead Mike" Forum.....don't know if I could take that. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #17 November 25, 2002 I had all my bruise pic's up here from last winter and how many colors my toes turned. I'm sure I can find them again if any one wants them. I guess I did'nt learn much... 235 jumps later I got myself a smaller, faster canopy Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #18 November 25, 2002 JP.. only two things I have to say A) GLAD YOU ARE OKB) [B]WHAT ARE YOU? STUPID?!?!?!?! I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #19 November 25, 2002 Just out of curiosity, how often did you do front riser turns on your 170? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #20 November 25, 2002 So, um, who told you to do front riser turns to land on jump #2 of your new canopy? Geeze. Don't get yourself dead.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #21 November 25, 2002 Live and learn, crash and burn! I'm glad to hear your not joining the ranks of the heavy metal club or worse. Remember to R.I.C.E. (rest, ice, compression and elevation) those knees and go easy at the controls of your new hankerchief. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites homer 0 #22 November 25, 2002 Thats all I need to read about is one more bad landing under a full functional canopy in next months Parachutest. I hope you have learned your lessen and will be a bit more safe on the next landing. It's good to hear that you are still in one piece and able to jump in a week. Just remember there is always a newbie watching your landing set a WHAT- TO- DO example not a WHAT - NOT- TO- DO one. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites notmmrw1 0 #23 November 25, 2002 Super lucky..damn.... I downsized to a 150...didnt even initiate any turn onto final.....came straight in...dropped a toggle as I began to flare..couldnt get hands onto rear risers quick enough and hit the ground with no flare....broken femur..torn ligament and compressed vertebrae, L-5.... just luck verses unlucky I guess.. Glad you came out so lucky and didnt get hurt very much....take care of yourself. Chip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weid14 0 #24 November 25, 2002 Quote Sure I'll learn from someone else's mistakes, but do I really need a pic of it? I'm guessing you wouldn't like the wall of pain at the Ranch..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #25 November 25, 2002 Glad you made it out ok, I've seen more then my share of very bad landings in my short 2 1/2 years in the sport, don't want to hear about another one, especially someone who I'm looking forward to meeting in Eloy! Ice up, take meds and I'll see you in a month.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Beachbum 0 #2 November 25, 2002 sure glad it didn't turn out worse for ya, and hope you heal up enough to make those turkey jumps! I'm glad you posted this ... just shows that in spite of all the talk about downsizing cautiously and being conservative under a canopy that is new to you, even someone with several hundred jumps can forget the advice while in the throes of the joy that a new toy brings ... hopefully will save someone else doing the same or worse ... thanks!As long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #3 November 25, 2002 Stupid. Glad you're gonna be okay. Post some pics of those bruises for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #4 November 25, 2002 damn, deuce. glad to hear you're ok! on friday, i was about 3 or 4 centimetres from stupid landing my new ride... so i'll settle for moron. steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #5 November 25, 2002 I'd rather hear a stupid man's tale than a dead man's any day. Glad you're okay. It don't suprise that Alan cut you off either.....it's just Alan. Tell him I said hi. Peace, JJJJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #6 November 25, 2002 Selfish me thinking - "Damn, there goes my ride to ELOY!!!! " J/K Bro. Glad to hear that it was just a bumpy landing. How are you feeling today ? Does it hurt worse ? Oh yea, and since I'm a friend.....WTF were you thinking doing front riser dives on final on a brand-new, smaller-than-before canopy ?? I'm really glad to hear that you didn't break anything and can't wait to see the video and the divots!! Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #7 November 25, 2002 Quote Post some pics of those bruises for us. Sheesh!!!__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #8 November 25, 2002 Rest and take it easy, please. Remember your promise and I'm going to hold you to it....broken leg or not! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #9 November 25, 2002 I am not happy to hear about this buddy But you're ok and you you learned that smaller, faster, easier to pack, etc. can equate to broken body...Take it easy man, heal quick, and please be safe. I know you got good people watchin over you there in the east bay But don't make me come over and put signs on your forehead that say "Duece may not jump cannopy's smaller than this size" with a big # "170"... People have no idea how lucky they are sometimes when all they get are bruised egos and bruised bones... You be lucky bud! I been there too though... Well thanks for not hurting your self cause if you did really badly then we would resuscitate you just so we could hurt you ourselves... j/k Be good, be safe.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #10 November 25, 2002 QuoteSheesh!!! What? I've found that photographic evidence of the physical results of a friend (hell, even an enemy) doing a stupid thing does wonders to make others think at least once before doing said stupid thing themselves. Learn from others mistakes. It's evolution, baby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #11 November 25, 2002 QuotePost some pics of those bruises for us I can see it now - da bytch starts collecting pictures of nasty bruises, breaks, scrtaches, etc for when someone wants to buy a canopy they shouldn't have from her: "Yeah, so I know I'm ready for a Velocity..." "Great! What color do you want?" "I think neon green with- " "No no... I mean your legs..." *hold pictures up to their legs for sizing* "... yeah, that blood red color would probably look pretty good on you" edit: haha! she really is going to do it!it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #12 November 25, 2002 Never mind the pics, get the video up here Glad to hear your ok though -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #13 November 25, 2002 Sure I'll learn from someone else's mistakes, but do I really need a pic of it? __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #14 November 25, 2002 Duece: it's the BLACK slider! "Jet It!" glad to hear your ok, take care, be safe, and resists the temptation to grab those front risers! --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #15 November 25, 2002 Quote Sure I'll learn from someone else's mistakes, but do I really need a pic of it? Simple solution, Ivan...don't click the attachments, and don't do anything that will get the Canopy Nazis after you (I love the CN's!!!!). Many people are visual learners...and this is a great lesson. I'm just sorry I didn't get any photos of the black bloody bruises which lasted for months from my crash to demonstrate that FLARING at the right time is a good idea.As to you, Deucy, glad you hopped away from it. And most especially glad you're willing to share the story so that others can learn... But will you be able to jump on Friday? That's the question... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #16 November 25, 2002 Ummhhh.... A "Dead Mike" Forum.....don't know if I could take that. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #17 November 25, 2002 I had all my bruise pic's up here from last winter and how many colors my toes turned. I'm sure I can find them again if any one wants them. I guess I did'nt learn much... 235 jumps later I got myself a smaller, faster canopy Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #18 November 25, 2002 JP.. only two things I have to say A) GLAD YOU ARE OKB) [B]WHAT ARE YOU? STUPID?!?!?!?! I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #19 November 25, 2002 Just out of curiosity, how often did you do front riser turns on your 170? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 November 25, 2002 So, um, who told you to do front riser turns to land on jump #2 of your new canopy? Geeze. Don't get yourself dead.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #21 November 25, 2002 Live and learn, crash and burn! I'm glad to hear your not joining the ranks of the heavy metal club or worse. Remember to R.I.C.E. (rest, ice, compression and elevation) those knees and go easy at the controls of your new hankerchief. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #22 November 25, 2002 Thats all I need to read about is one more bad landing under a full functional canopy in next months Parachutest. I hope you have learned your lessen and will be a bit more safe on the next landing. It's good to hear that you are still in one piece and able to jump in a week. Just remember there is always a newbie watching your landing set a WHAT- TO- DO example not a WHAT - NOT- TO- DO one. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notmmrw1 0 #23 November 25, 2002 Super lucky..damn.... I downsized to a 150...didnt even initiate any turn onto final.....came straight in...dropped a toggle as I began to flare..couldnt get hands onto rear risers quick enough and hit the ground with no flare....broken femur..torn ligament and compressed vertebrae, L-5.... just luck verses unlucky I guess.. Glad you came out so lucky and didnt get hurt very much....take care of yourself. Chip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #24 November 25, 2002 Quote Sure I'll learn from someone else's mistakes, but do I really need a pic of it? I'm guessing you wouldn't like the wall of pain at the Ranch..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 November 25, 2002 Glad you made it out ok, I've seen more then my share of very bad landings in my short 2 1/2 years in the sport, don't want to hear about another one, especially someone who I'm looking forward to meeting in Eloy! Ice up, take meds and I'll see you in a month.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
