Shredex 0 #1 February 13, 2013 On average, how many jumps can you get on a container before it's un-airworthy? Well-kept vs. Not well-kept Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #2 February 13, 2013 They're GOOD 'till the last drop! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quagmirian 40 #3 February 13, 2013 They last for the rest of your life. Nylon does not degrade over time, it only wears out from use and sunlight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #4 February 13, 2013 1000 to 3000 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #5 February 13, 2013 It all depends on care and maintenance, but if you take care of a rig, it will literally last for 1000's of jumps. If you're looking to buy a used rig, and concerned about the age or jump numbers, having a rigger inspect it will reveal a lot about the rig and how it was cared for. If you're looking at a new rig and wondering how long it will last, take care of it and it will be jumping longer than you will (probably). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skybear 0 #6 February 13, 2013 Recently I visited Mirage and saw a rig there which had 2500 jumps on it. The owner shipped it in to get parts of the harness replaced. Except those few parts the rest looked very good, more like 500 than 2500 jumps. If you take good care of your rig it should live very long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 February 13, 2013 Still have my bitchin' 1983 Racer I'd jump it tomorrow if I had a second set of gear to put into it. Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 February 13, 2013 Quote Still have my bitchin' 1983 Racer I'd jump it tomorrow if I had a second set of gear to put into it. I have a wonderhog older than that, in great condition...but who wants to jump a round reserve anymore? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #9 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote Still have my bitchin' 1983 Racer I'd jump it tomorrow if I had a second set of gear to put into it. I have a wonderhog older than that, in great condition...but who wants to jump a round reserve anymore? Who doesn't? "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,461 #10 February 13, 2013 Ah, but 'Twardo probably bought it new Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 February 13, 2013 It will vary based on conditions it was jumped in and how you take care of it. If you take care of it, it would not be unusual for a rig to last 3-4k jumps. Most people will not make 3K jumps, and even fewer of those will do it without buying several rigs in that time frame for downsizing or just 'want'. I have 6k jumps and have had 5 rigs. I could still be jumping the 2nd rig, but I wanted a new one. And the same can be said of every rig after that, in fact I still have from #3 to #5 and still jump 4 & 5. (I could jump #3, but I have it set up as a tunnel rig and would need canopies). And all being said, I could still be jumping my first rig... But I would need to still be jumping a 200sqft canopy. If you are looking to buy a used rig.... Age is more important than jumps, mainly because of upgrades. I'd rather have a 2 year old container with 2k jumps than a 30 year old container with 100 jumps on it. Number of jumps should be considered in deciding the price, but ugly rigs might still be airworthy. If you are looking to buy new, and are like most people, you will choose to get rid of the container long before its service life ends."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #12 February 13, 2013 QuoteAh, but 'Twardo probably bought it new Smile Twardo most likely saved up his clams from delivering stone tablets to save up for it. Then he had to most likely wait for the cavemen to learn to sew to make it, the ice age to end before he could jump it, and it came with a pterodactyl... Not the canopy, the dinosaur... as a main. I'm saying he is old."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #13 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote Ah, but 'Twardo probably bought it new Smile Twardo most likely saved up his clams from delivering stone tablets to save up for it. Then he had to most likely wait for the cavemen to learn to sew to make it, the ice age to end before he could jump it, and it came with a pterodactyl... Not the canopy, the dinosaur... as a main. I'm saying he is old. Clams? i WISH i was was makin' clams back then...I really need to start unloading some of this gear I've got laying around. I have a couple 270sqft reserves never deployed & only packed once every couple of years...Got a 260 Excalibur with 2 jumps on it! A Pap, A PC, A T-bow...a minisystem & a stylemaster...a bird no ripcord reserve container, a never jumped 'Force' container I built myself...I bet there are a LOTTA n00bs that would just love to jump well cared for gear! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #14 February 13, 2013 I'm only asking out of curiosity. I was explaining to my boss how F-111 canopies don't last as long as ZP canopies, and how you have to get the lines changed and what not. And then he asked me how long the rig itself lasts, to which I just scratched my head..."Good question!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote Still have my bitchin' 1983 Racer I'd jump it tomorrow if I had a second set of gear to put into it. I have a wonderhog older than that, in great condition...but who wants to jump a round reserve anymore? Chuck Norris jumps a 24' twill flat as a main. And he deliberately retro-fitted it with acid mesh just to make a style statement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 February 13, 2013 Service life depends uon how well you take care of it. If you over-stuff it, pack sloppily, "drag" your landings through desert sand, leave it laying out in the sun, etc. you will lucky to get 500 jumps out of a harness/container. OTOH if you take good care of a harness/container: stand-up all landings, only land on grass, only pack indoors, have it regularly inspected by a Master Rigger, repair it at the first sign of wear, etc. it can last up to 5,000 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokierower 0 #17 February 13, 2013 My first container was a Wings from '06 that supposedly had 2,000 jumps on it when I bought it. Still looked great and looked just as nice when I sold it with 2,300 jumps. New owner gave it a bath and it looks like it's sub-1,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #18 February 14, 2013 Quote I really need to start unloading some of this gear I've got laying around. I have a couple 270sqft reserves never deployed & only packed once every couple of years...Got a 260 Excalibur with 2 jumps on it! A Pap, A PC, A T-bow...a minisystem & a stylemaster...a bird no ripcord reserve container, a never jumped 'Force' container I built myself...I bet there are a LOTTA n00bs that would just love to jump well cared for gear! Oooo, Ooooo, Oooooo!!!!!!! You've got me salivating. I've been looking for some of this stuff. Read your messages.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,377 #19 February 14, 2013 Hi Jim, Quote a bird no ripcord reserve container I was at a boogie up in the Spokane, WA area when that rig first showed up. Ralph Hatley and I were looking it over and he said, 'The most expensive part of that rig are the capewells & the velcro.' JerryBaumchen PS) And for the trivia money: How many of you out there in DizzyLand have seen a reserve container without a ripcord? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,461 #20 February 14, 2013 I've packed one or two. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #21 February 14, 2013 Quote PS) And for the trivia money: How many of you out there in DizzyLand have seen a reserve container without a ripcord? Wanna start a History & Trivia thread? (But as for your challenge: I saw a mouldy old one locally that Beatnik tells me is a Tom Cook version of a Bird container. A rip-off rip-off so to speak. Plus my first instructor jumped a container with a shoulder mounted throwout reserve PC - it was a custom build 20+ years back, not the Aussie system that had that. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #22 February 14, 2013 Quote PS) And for the trivia money: How many of you out there in DizzyLand have seen a reserve container without a ripcord? I see them, usually after a chop and they dropped their handles. I also have a chest container with a PLASTIC ripcord handle."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #23 February 14, 2013 Quote PS) And for the trivia money: How many of you out there in DizzyLand have seen a reserve container without a ripcord? I have, but on a Sorcerer oh and IIRC I did see one during my course at USAPRscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #24 February 14, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Still have my bitchin' 1983 Racer I'd jump it tomorrow if I had a second set of gear to put into it. I have a wonderhog older than that, in great condition...but who wants to jump a round reserve anymore? Chuck Norris jumps a 24' twill flat as a main. And he deliberately retro-fitted it with acid mesh just to make a style statement. Oh yeah? Well MINE has 4-line releases on the back AND front risers, cored the 550 for weight...and has a crown mod made from '68 Plymouth Fury seat-belts...AND it's dyed pink! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #25 February 14, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Still have my bitchin' 1983 Racer I'd jump it tomorrow if I had a second set of gear to put into it. I have a wonderhog older than that, in great condition...but who wants to jump a round reserve anymore? Chuck Norris jumps a 24' twill flat as a main. And he deliberately retro-fitted it with acid mesh just to make a style statement. Oh yeah? Well MINE has 4-line releases on the back AND front risers, cored the 550 for weight...and has a crown mod made from '68 Plymouth Fury seat-belts...AND it's dyed pink! Norris don't need no stinkin' 4-line release. He just looks, and it obeys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
