annaandbob 0 #1 October 29, 2002 Winter is just about here in Michigan. I want to build a wind tunnel. Anyone got a few $$$$$$ they can lend me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #2 October 29, 2002 (looks in pocket ....npoe got .10 cents though!) if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #3 October 29, 2002 hmmm... let's see... out of bills... WAIT, i've got something! a ball of lint... that's good enough for 'em. *gently rolling lint under pillow* steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 October 29, 2002 Quote I want to build a wind tunnel Me too...but I only need about $500,000 to get started. I'm a little short this month but I am playing the lotto!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #5 October 29, 2002 >I want to build a wind tunnel. Buy some land and a 300' crane. Cheaper to buy and operate. And if you spin the crane you can do poised exits! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #6 October 29, 2002 I've got a hair dryer I no longer need. If we can pull like 999 more. My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #7 October 29, 2002 QuoteBuy some land and a 300' crane I have a friend in Texas that has apparently gotten himself a nice antenna. He just needs a place to put it....oh and the money to move it from it's present location. Anyone want to chip in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 October 29, 2002 I heard roumors around a DZ that a few people were working with the cell compaines to determine some future antenna locations and want to buy the land and insist on rights to climb in the deal with the tower companies.. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 October 29, 2002 QuoteWinter is just about here in Michigan. I want to build a wind tunnel. Anyone got a few $$$$$$ they can lend me After having been in a wind tunnel with industrial air-handlers pulling outside air through the tunnel at 100mph, I am imagining Michigan in the winter. 10 deg air at 100mph...brrrrrrrr.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #10 October 29, 2002 This makes me wonder. Do the tunnels really make that much money. Of course Skyventure does because of their location. But what about other locations. Skydivers seem to be as poor as shit. Just wondering. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #11 October 29, 2002 Quote Skydivers seem to be as poor as shit Skydivers don't support wind tunnels. Whuffo tourists paying $35 for a 2 minute ride do. It takes a tourism base to support a tunnel. I have a nice location picked out.....I just need the $500,000 or so to get the loan for the land and construction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #12 October 29, 2002 >Skydivers seem to be as poor as shit Yeah... with at 4000 rig, 1500 camera, 300 helmet, 200 altimeter, 300 audible, training at 1800, jumpsuit at 250, etc they are the poorest people around.... Skydivers just devote everything to jumping and not anything else...like homes, cars, things like that. Selling tunnel time in hour blocks, not shutting it down for hours due to popular demand with teams helps to pay the bills and the profit comes in the whuffos. As for tunnels they make a heated air intake you can use in the newer tunnel designs. Its said to warm the air by 30 degrees so it takes the 10 degree fridgid air and warms it to not much warmer 40 degrees. (about normal freefall temp around here in the spring /fall) But at 40 on the ground... its a nice balmy 70 in the tunnel.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #13 October 29, 2002 Quote ***Skydivers don't support wind tunnels. Whuffo tourists paying $35 for a 2 minute ride do. It takes a tourism base to support a tunnel. I have a nice location picked out.....I just need the $500,000 or so to get the loan for the land and construction. Bill Kitchen was talking about a project in California at one time. I know that Perris is building a tunnel, but this was about a theme park type business. He was talking about indoor snow skiing like they have in Japan as well as a wind tunnel. He was trying to put together about $6M for that. Wind tunnels have to run year-round. In Orlando, it sometimes runs continuously for days. The whuffos definitely contribute to the business. I have purchased blocks of time with coaching. Learned huge amounts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #14 October 29, 2002 QuoteYeah... with at 4000 rig, 1500 camera, 300 helmet, 200 altimeter, 300 audible, training at 1800, jumpsuit at 250, etc they are the poorest people around.... Skydivers just devote everything to jumping and not anything else...like homes, cars, things like that. I did not mean that phrase to be derogatory. You made my point. They spend a ton of money to stay in the sport. How many skydivers have extra cash to spend in the wind tunnel? I know you cannot answer that question. My point is exactly what Clay said. I think it would need to be in an area frequented by tourists. I did tunnel training at Skyventure and the majority of ppl there were tourists. In fact I was the only aff student in my group. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #15 October 29, 2002 QuoteHow many skydivers have extra cash to spend in the wind tunnel? Some skydivers spend a lot of money on training. An Airspeed Tunnel Camp costs $1100. That's 60 minutes of coached tunnel time, plus some other stuff. Sixty one-minute skydives at $18 each is $1080. Sixty coached skydives? I dunno. A LOT. And I couldn't do 60 coached skydives in 3 days.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #16 October 29, 2002 Quote Some skydivers spend a lot of money on training Yeah...ask Stacy...I think she said she has about 5 hours so far this year. She is going to another tunnel camp on Friday..... I personally would rather spend the money on jumps. But I'm just silly like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #17 October 29, 2002 QuoteI think she said she has about 5 hours so far this year. And while I've never jumped with Stacy, I'd bet she's an absolutely incredible belly flyer. It's all an investment. It just depends where you wanna put your money.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #18 October 29, 2002 Quote That's 60 minutes of coached tunnel time, plus some other stuff. Wow, that is alot of tunnel time. I did 10 minutes and found it pretty tiring...not to mention that I was..umm...injured. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #19 October 29, 2002 Quote I'd bet she's an absolutely incredible belly flyer She was quite good...well except for that exit. She didn't know what to do leaving the plane while not holding onto anyone else.... Silly belly flyers!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #20 October 29, 2002 Hey, just come down to Tecumseh. We'll jump no matter how cold it gets. -The Flying Hellfish #285 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #21 October 29, 2002 Quote ***She was quite good...well except for that exit. She didn't know what to do leaving the plane while not holding onto anyone else.... Silly belly flyers!!! Silly freeflyers...an obvious opportunity to touch Stacy is overlooked. It was so special that I haven't washed my left hand since. Yeah, that lady can fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 October 29, 2002 Quote It was so special that I haven't washed my left hand since Oh....I touched her plenty later on in the skydive.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #23 October 29, 2002 Quote Oh....I touched her plenty later on in the skydive.... Beast. You know she'll tell me if you were any good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #24 October 29, 2002 Quote Quote That's 60 minutes of coached tunnel time, plus some other stuff. Wow, that is alot of tunnel time. I did 10 minutes and found it pretty tiring...not to mention that I was..umm...injured. A.A.Tunnel camp is done 2 minutes at a time with a coach and is an incredible tool to learn how to truly fly your body. It costs about the same as 60 jumps w/o world class coaching but the learning curve is more like 150 coached skydives! You just can't get the same knowledge outside the tunnel in as short a time because the walls don't lie! In the air you may think you are doing center turns but in the tunnel you know for sure and you can practice in a limited airspace that won't lie to you. It is a very humbling experience the first camp you go to. They basically teach you the correct way to fly. First step; forget what you were taught, the less you know, the less you have to forget! As for the cold, it was 27 degrees in Orlando in January and it was cold as shit in there! I was in for 2 min. out for 6. Coaches were in 2 min. out 2 min. They were all wrapped up just trying to stay warm! The good thing is that cold air is much denser so there was much more lift! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #25 October 29, 2002 Quote You know she'll tell me if you were any good. Is there some doubt? Just ask Sunshine......I touched her a bunch in free fall!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
