Who owns/ uses firearms-?

[mnischalke 0]

so sacrifice state's rights for assimilation?

No thanks, I will stick with my conservative state's interpretation of things, rather than follow the paranoid thinking of Maryland, Kalifornia or Massachusetts.

mike

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[kallend 2,027]

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so sacrifice state's rights for assimilation?

No thanks, I will stick with my conservative state's interpretation of things,
rather than follow the paranoid thinking of Maryland, Kalifornia or
Massachusetts.

Why not? The 2nd Amendment applies uniformly, and says something about "well regulated" if I recall correctly.
Do you object to uniform standards for pilots' licenses?

[mnischalke 0]

nope.

Pilots cross state lines. I don't have to. If the folks in another state don't like my guns, I don't have to go there.

Damn federalists...

mike

Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills.

[ChileRelleno 0]

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I stand corrected... Thank you.

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The poll is missing any category that I would check.

How about adding something like

"guns are fine, but gun laws should be uniform and uniformly enforced across the nation."

One would wish that were true, but the issue of the 10th Amendment, states' rights, and interstate commerce would come into play. Applying laws across state lines is verboten unless the feds can demonstrate an overarching reason. Airline Transport regulations apply to all states, as well as railways, shipping, trucking, etc. because of interstate commerce.

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You're most welcome. I thought it was legit too, until I came across guncite. That quote has duped a lot of sharp people.

Of all of Benjamin Franklin's remarks, I'm fondest of the beer quote, but I don't know if it's any more legitimate than the GW quote.

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[kallend 2,027]

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nope.

Pilots cross state lines. I don't have to. If the folks in another state don't like my guns, I don't have to go there.

Damn federalists...

I'm a pilot and I've never been forced to cross a state line against my will if the folks in another state don't like my plane. Still have federal standards.

[PhillyKev 0]

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I'm a pilot and I've never been forced to cross a state line against my will if the folks in another state don't like my plane. Still have federal standards.

Are interstate flights a necessity in this day and age for the economy, growth and progress of the nation as a whole? = YES

Can the same be said for personal transportation of firearms across state lines? = NO

[GrumpySmurf 0]

Go buy an SKS then - the s.o.b's are notorious for slam fires - hold one for a heck of a ride though.

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I'm a pilot and I've never been forced to cross a state line against my will if the folks in another state don't like my plane. Still have federal standards.

Are interstate flights a necessity in this day and age for the economy, growth and progress of the nation as a whole? = YES

Can the same be said for personal transportation of firearms across state lines? = NO

True, but it's the camel's nose. There are *legal* ways around ATF/FFL transfers across state lines, but I won't discuss them here.

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[steve1 5]

Phillykev,
I've heard that colt 1911's are a good weapon if they are tight and not shot out. In the army we would sometimes shoot the old 1911 45's and you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with them. It was mainly because they had like a million rounds shot through them and they were too loose to maintain good accuracy. Steve1

[GrumpySmurf 0]

"shotgun projectiles tend to go beyond the intended target and could end up in the neighbor's baby. Shotgun ammunition selection for home defense is therefore quite important."

Just make sure not to use too fine a shot or you may end up court cause you didn't kill the perp, just maimed 'em. That would suck.

"Pistol rounds also tend to overpenetrate walls"

Don't they make and sell prefragmented bullets designed to effectively turn to dust once that hit something hard, like a wall?

[steve1 5]

"Don't they make the shell prefragmented bullets designed to effectively turn to dust once they hit something hard, like a wall?"

The only trouble I can see with shooting such ammo is that it might not penetrate the perpetrator. I've loaded big game ammo that wouldn't penetrate even the shoulder blade on an antelope. The same principal could hold true on a bad guy. You don't want your bullet to blow up on the leather jacket he is wearing. Something to think about. Steve1

[mnischalke 0]

You are talking about frangible bullets. You might end up in court with some of these too, as frangible bullets can range from the wounding potential of a round nose (like Remington's copper-plated, powdered metal frangible) to that of a hollow point (like Triton CQD Reduced Hazard Hollowpoint). Some of these will still penetrate beyond your intended target and will not break up until impact with metal. If you choose the frangible that imitates hardball ammo, you may be wounding your target rather than eliminating him from the genepool, therefore opening yourself up to be sued. If you overpenetrate, your neighbors may... you know what I'm saying.

Know your ammo, know your firearm, know your target and know what's behind it.

mike

Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills.

[michaeljanzen 0]

i have an entire room dedicated to guns. before i found skydiving i had to reload ammo at least 2 hrs. every night after work to keep up with my weekend shooting adventures. owning 180 acres is awesome some day i would like to have a chute and shoot
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[SkyPsycho 0]

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Does anyone own/shoot a Desert Eagle? I would like to see what's its like.

depends......in what caliber?
mine is a .50 action express. quite the toy, i use it if someone pisses me off at the range. the last time, i was sweeping up my casings cuz its way too expensive to not reload (around here, its between 20 and 26 bucks for a box of 20 rounds)and i rested the broom against the wall in my port. as i was collecting casings, the broom slid down the wall and fell into the guys girlfriend in the next port. not hard at all, barely bumped her. i said sorry, and she looked at me with a bitchy puss, and it totally disgusted me, nasty ass wench. not that all their casings flying over the wall and hitting me didnt set it off, this did. i waited till they were popping off some more rounds, and then scared the shit out of them with the muzzle flash and the huge explosion. ( yes, explosion, much different than all the other pop pop pops going on.) they proceeded to move about 5 ports down after that.....
by the time i get to the last round, the range is quiet, and everyone is standing behind me going wtf is that. if youre limp wristed with this gun, the ejected casings will hit you square in the middle of your forehead. they eject out the top, as opposed to the side. if youre used to firing this weapon, you can shoot it with one hand, although i wouldnt suggest it for more than one clip full........try it and youll see what i mean. most people are afraid of it to begin with. anyone with small hands will not be able to get their hand around the grip. its also quite a heavy piece. i do use itm regularly, and probably put 100 rounds through it a week, aside from the other 500 thru my 45 and my 9mm.

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As far as a self-defense 1911, I prefer either a Kimber or a Springfield Armory, either with Series 70 internals. Colt may have produced the 1911 for the past 90 years, but the current production quality is lacking. I also prefer the .38 Super or .38 Super Comp to the .45 ACP just for sheer energy, stopping power and rapid ability for follow-ups. You can also fit 10 rounds of .38 Super into a standard-size 1911 magazine, whereas a .45 mag will only accept 7. The .357 Sig is another great alternative to the .45, but unless you don't mind a wickedly snappy recoil, don't get a compact .40S&W

. > i have a springfield armory v-10 .45, ultra compact, factory ported, 10 round mag, low recoil, nice weapon

[JeanJeanie 0]

I believe in responsible gun ownership and education, especially for the children.
I think everyone should own a Winchester!

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[Viking 0]

At my parents home in Louisiana we have a 100 yard long beach infront of my house. I grew up going down to the beach and shooting every gun we had. My parents were hunter safety course instructors and i sat through countless class' on proper gun safety. I currently only own one gun and that a Ruger 10/22 Carbine Rifle. I use it for target plinking and small game hunting.

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[michaeljanzen 0]

i personally think a 9mm is a pud gun what a waste of gunpowder and lead. i love my glock 21 (.45 for those who don't know) my glock and i have gone thru alot together - rain, sleet, snow, dirt, mud, cold, heat & anything else you can imagine and it still shoots as perfect as the day i bought it.

"the sweet just aint as sweet without the bitter "

[bobsled92 0]

The reason guns are not a big issue in my life is because of guns everywhere in our house "The Collection"
I fired my father's service revolver .38 when I was 5yrs old, We had our own indoor range(@my Dad's horse farm) No near by neighbors.
Growing up in a house where my having 350+ hand guns and assault rifles, I never had to buy anything.
-Dad was a Counter-terrorism specialist/ Director (and a few other things)

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[Viking 0]

holyshit dude!

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[fasterfaller 0]

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I like guns.

Come to think of it, if it weren't for guns, I would have to find another way to pay for jumps, and ahh, food, and hmmmm, oh yeah, the roof over my head...

Actually, guns are great. I might even have a couple of my own laying around here somewhere...

Fasterfaller, I think the two times you mention NFA firearms actually being used in commision of crimes were since 1934. Please correct me if I am wrong.

peace,

Can't remember the years but it was after 1934 . I think the dade sheriff murder for hire was in the 70-80's . Class three owners are the best behaved gun owners out there . If I wasn't so against gun control and the people behind it I would say make all weapons class 3 .

[Dumpster 0]

Wow! Quite a response!
Not what I expected, but in my opinion, quite positive!I can tell the most of us are into responsible gun ownership and use. A very good thing!
Iam afriad the anti-gun lobby is going to take this sniper ordeal to the extreme- It's not the gun, but the user-
I grew up in a house with guns- Not alot of guns, but just the same-
I was taught that they are tools, not toys-
I was also taught that marksmanship is an important part of life. One of the cornerstones. Marksmanship could be what turns the tide of a war, or what feeds your family for one more day. I have served in war, and fed my children.

It is important now, more than any in recent history, we defend second amendment rights-
Please pass the word along.
"Homeland Security" - begins with citizens defending thier home.
Don't you agree?
I would like to thank you all!

And a special thanks to the law enforcement personnel who helped catch the rat bastrd sniper team! A ip of my whisky glass and heartfelt thanks to ALL policemen everywhere!

Easy Does It

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It is important now, more than any in recent history, we defend second amendment rights-
Please pass the word along.
"Homeland Security" - begins with citizens defending thier home.
Don't you agree?

No. The second amendment is being radically misintrepreted by many, if not most, Americans. The framers' intent is quite clear: The second amendment was designed to keep citizens armed to defend against acts of aggression from other countries. Not to shoot burglars.

I'm not saying that all guns should be banned. I'm not saying that most guns should be banned. I'm not even saying that any guns should be banned. I'm just saying that misinterpreting the second amendment is at best a weak argument for keeping guns legal.