Tell a student to quit

[flyinchicken 0]

OK I'm going to do it and I don't care who gets pissed off.
Jump #1 Flown out to Cali cause I'm cute to hang out with some crazy friends, one a skydiver, have fun, learn, I want to jump.
Jump #2 110 lb girl put on a 300 ft manta in 18m/hr winds fly backwards till landiing in what a first time canopy pilot can figure out as a safe place. Get slaps on the back for being alive.
Jump#3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, get instructor that thinks I'm "hot" so wants to teach me. Teaches me everything he knows, in his defense, he has 300 + jimps. During this time, Second jump instructor asks me if I got hypoxic when in the Otter at Perris at 13500???????
Jump #13 Forced my way onto a first jump course for my check out jump to solo. All instructors too busy with teaching first time SL students. On the way to the plane experienced jumper tells me to look for the X and that is the spot. I see X, jump. Turns out, is for spot when winds opposite direction. I'm in shit, Canopy opens and because I am so light, on my 320 manta, pilot chute goes over front and trails on opening, I don't even see wing distortion from this, when experienced jumper comes on radio, I think I can take it in , I turn off radio to concentrate, and land right beside tuffet. Get grounded for turning off radio for two weeks.
Jump#14 Everyone putting a lot of pressure on me to do it right, I do till jump 18.
Jump# 18 I'm given to a BRAND NEW INSTRUCTOR with maybe 300 jumps. we do check out jump, everything is fine, I have same pilot chute problem and accooording to all of my instructors advice, cut away. Have skeery landing cause I see MY instructor have cut away on same jump, n I'm TERRIFIED! Land, no injuries, but skeery for me and instructor, get yelled at by him, cause, well he's new and skeered himself.........both instructor and student almost quit.
I wait 1 yr before making another jump at my home dz Burnaby. I had, money, time, and interest, but I had no help. Everything I learned about skydiving, at that DZ, was about power and who deserved it. Was HORRIBLE.
I do not blame my new instructor as he was learning, I do not blame any of the instructors taught at that dz, I do blame the DZO, for NOT taking the time to make sure that skydivers being trained to jump on thier own had the most up to date information and equipment suited to their size, with instructors that had enough experience to identify the "TINY" things they were doing to make the jumps go wrong.
Was NOT fun! I had to learn to jump through perserverence and trust in ONLY myself, and my judgement of who understood the sport best, even though, I did not. It was hard, I made it. I learned ALL the things I did not understand about those first jumps, had too before continuing. I learned that there are good skydivers, well-meaning skydivers, and bad skydivers, just like all the people in the world. I now pay CLOSE attention to every skydivern I see. If I think they may be doing something incorrectly, I approach someone with 1000 jumps or more before I offer advice. Awareness comes with experience and they are much more aware than I. I wish I had had them when I began.
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"Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman

[sundry 0]

After reading these post i find one important thing missing, maybe it has been mention but i missed it.

What needs to be mentioned is that it is impossible to put all "poor" students into one category, there are huge differences between why students are considered poor skydivers.

There are those lacking the pure coordination skills such as controlling your body and chute. The reasons for this are many, such as just untrained coordination skills, paralyzing fear, or even physical disadvantages. Another major factor is, as previously mentioned, poor instructing.
The problem is not always a poor or great instructor but finding a instructor that suits your personality. Some, like myself, need the "Full Metal Jacket drill seargent" approach were I have someone pushing me, others feel uncomfortable with this and perform accordingly. Many posts here are a tribute to their authors about overcoming these trials and tribulations and i truly admire them for it.

The second category are students with a poor approach and attitude to the sport, the ones who are likely to hurt themselves and others not because of their skills but because of their decisions they make. This group, especially if then combined with poor coordination skills, needs to be given a straight talk about changing attitude or changing sport. I believe the instructor has a responsibility towards the student to lay down the facts.

[trigger 0]

It amazes me that someone with 300 or so jumps has the bare faced cheek to call themselves an instructor.....when we start out we think 200 jumps is alot...i have approx 1000+ jumps and that isn't alot..

I've seen the ego 'wankers' suck up to the 'cute'chick straight off aff giving it jump with me i'll teach you line so many times.
I think that sucks.
But girls if you buy that bullshit well who's to blame.

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