quade 4 #101 October 2, 2002 QuoteCEO's compensated with non-cash (stocks, pensions, corporate jets, houses, cars, hookers, etc...) I'm sorry, how was it you planned on taxing the hookers again?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #102 October 2, 2002 QuoteGive both parents 50-50 custody right off the bat, hello, get the fuck out of my courtroom unless you have iron clad evidence. Rhino, I can appreciate why you feel this way given your divorce, but this is not a good idea. I volunteer for a women's shelter, and the system is already skewed in the abuser's favor (ex. the abuser can act perfectly calm and rational in the courtroom. The abusee is likely scared to death of the abuser and is emotionally scarred. Who is going to look like the stable parent?). You would be absolutely stunned to hear of how often the system fails the battered ... even when there is no marriage or children. When you add those factors, it gets scary. It is a fact that virtually all batterers also abuse their children, and it is a fact that even after a divorce, the abuser will do anything they can to continue harrassing their ex. Giving automatic 50/50 custody would just make this easier to do.A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #103 October 2, 2002 Why aren't there any men's shelters? Giving 50/50 immediately unless CONCRETE evidence ig given would give the good parents a chance to get their children back. Right now the good parents are locked out by a system that is hell bent on giving custody to women. I was crucified with NO evidence. That should be ILLEGAL. My son was stolen from me. The fact is if I had 50/50 tomorrow my son would be better off.. I know hundreds of families that are in the same situation as I am. It needs to be INNOCENT until proven guilty not the other way around.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #104 October 2, 2002 QuoteWhy aren't there any men's shelters? SAFEhouse provides shelter to women and men. However, something like 95% of the people who use their services are women. (You'll notice that aside from saying "women's shelter" I used entirely ungendered language. I will concede that I should not have called it that, either) Quote Giving 50/50 immediately unless CONCRETE evidence ig given would give the good parents a chance to get their children back. Right now the good parents are locked out by a system that is hell bent on giving custody to women. I was crucified with NO evidence. That should be ILLEGAL. My son was stolen from me. The fact is if I had 50/50 tomorrow my son would be better off.. I know hundreds of families that are in the same situation as I am. It needs to be INNOCENT until proven guilty not the other way around.. Rhino, I already told you that I sympathize with your situation. However, what concerns me is the ease with which abusers have access to the abusees and to their children, and the difficulty that battered people already have in making the system work for them.A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TequilaGirl 0 #105 October 2, 2002 Hey Rhino since you are ditching the Family Court System - who is going to hear your evidence....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #106 October 2, 2002 A panel of every day citizens from the community,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #107 October 2, 2002 "Why aren't there any men's shelters? " An interesting fact has surfaced about the shelter thing. When shelters are available, they give women an alternative to violence. Women who are pushed to the brink, take the alternative. It has been shown that the violence rate towards men actually decreases when womens shelters are available. The weird part is that they save mens lives. They also decrease the non-fatal types of violence that do not appear on police reports. Women striking men is generally under-reported because the physical damage does not require hospitalization. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #108 October 2, 2002 QuoteA panel of every day citizens from the community I think the word for that is "jury" and they can often be found in a "court". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #109 October 2, 2002 >Giving 50/50 immediately unless CONCRETE evidence ig given would > give the good parents a chance to get their children back. I think that, if you saw your son beaten, then were required to give him back to the abuser for a week, you would feel differently. We need a court system that can deal with less than concrete evidence. Heck, most cases with really concrete evidence never go to court; they settle because they know that's the best they can do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airhead 0 #110 October 2, 2002 Well, Rhino... Let's See a picture of you dude! THEN maybe we can give you some tips on presentation to the general public. We're waiting.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites blondeflyer7 0 #111 October 2, 2002 Quote It is a fact that virtually all batterers also abuse their children, and it is a fact that even after a divorce, the abuser will do anything they can to continue harrassing their ex. Giving automatic 50/50 custody would just make this easier to do. Unfortunately this may happen to me. The 50/50 and harassing part is happining now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #112 October 7, 2002 I say, just sell the Upper Peninsula to Canada to increase state revenues. Secondly, the pics of your girlfriend on the net could be a problem during your campaign. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 5 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
blondeflyer7 0 #111 October 2, 2002 Quote It is a fact that virtually all batterers also abuse their children, and it is a fact that even after a divorce, the abuser will do anything they can to continue harrassing their ex. Giving automatic 50/50 custody would just make this easier to do. Unfortunately this may happen to me. The 50/50 and harassing part is happining now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #112 October 7, 2002 I say, just sell the Upper Peninsula to Canada to increase state revenues. Secondly, the pics of your girlfriend on the net could be a problem during your campaign. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
