dp1l 0 #1 September 28, 2002 Can anyone point me to a site with details and a comparison between static line and AFF courses, please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #2 September 28, 2002 I don't know about such a site, but if you have a specific question, I'm sure you'll get an answer here. For more information, I suggest you do a search on the forums. Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #3 September 28, 2002 As you are in the UK. i would suggest going here www.bpa.org.uk/progress.htm Gimme a shout if you have any questions. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #4 September 28, 2002 You might check out the USPA site. I dont know if it compares them,but it describe each in detail and you can compare them yourself. http://www.uspa.org "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #6 September 28, 2002 There is ALOT of discussions on Static Line vs. AFF right here on the forum. I have found it very informative, check here using the search. J TTK#5 -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthomas1966 0 #7 September 28, 2002 my 2 cents Static Line: 3,500', line twists, canopy control. AFF: 13,500', FREEFALL, bodyposition, did I mention FREEFALL? Brian BTW: I started with static line, then switched to IAD (almost the same) - didn't start getting freefall time until 5 second delays on 9th jump. If you can afford it do AFF or AFP Anyone agree? Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #8 September 28, 2002 My first eight jumps were static line progression - five on the dope rope, a hop and pop and two ten second delays. Then I did a modified AFF program for the rest of my student jumps. I'm glad I did I did it that way; by the time I got to go from the top I'd already flown and landed a canopy eight times, and had pulled my own ripcord three times. I made my son do an AFF level one for his first jump. Although he did fine I think the stress level was a lot higher for him than it was for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #9 September 28, 2002 i did pretty much the same as lisa, 8 iad's, the last 3 were practice pulls, then signed up for pff last spring. less stress on the pff jumps because i had already flown and landed the canopy. the big trick was remembering to open it myself!"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #10 September 29, 2002 make a search on the safety and training forum, somebody asked about sending his son to sl or aff and he got good replies. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #11 September 29, 2002 Just make sure if you do staic line they don't mix the ropes up. It would be horrible to get the 60 second rope on your first jump. YIKES! haha.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #13 September 29, 2002 QuoteJust make sure if you do staic line they don't mix the ropes up. It would be horrible to get the 60 second rope on your first jump. YIKES! haha.... It's even worse when the instructor also manages a bungy jumping outfit and gets the cords mixed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dp1l 0 #14 September 29, 2002 Thanks Stacey!! How long would a 60 second line be? I think I would much rather do AFF, but time, money, and winter seem to be conspiring together to force me to do it the s/l route Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpy 0 #15 September 29, 2002 Quote How long would a 60 second line be? about 11,000 ft i personally did s/l i didn't find any problems with it the program...although i can't really compare it to anything can i s/l is cheaper..and much cheaper to screw up a jump or 5 just like i did If you think you'll only do one jump then s/l isn't really the best option because it wouldn't be as fun of a one time experience Just my opinion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pilotdave 0 #16 September 29, 2002 QuoteCan anyone point me to a site with details and a comparison between static line and AFF courses, please? Dunno if this is meaningless or not, but recently I was trying to find some stats on student fatalities (to answer the second most common question I get). Do some searches on http://www.skydivingfatalities.com for people with very low jump numbers. There may be other factors at play, but the number of static line deaths is higher than AFF (or tandem). I have no idea what percentage of students learn by static line nowadays, but I'm thinking its gotta be pretty low. I've never done a static line jump, never seen a static line jump being done (other than paratroopers at airshows), and know very little about it. I started off with AFF1 and I have no regrets. Static line just scares me. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #17 September 29, 2002 I think AFF and SL are about the same as far as safety goes. You can't go by the fatality records because you can't tell how many students are SL vs AFF, and a student will be in SL for double the jumps a student would be in AFF(15-20 jumps til grad compared to 7-10). The DZs I started at used SL and they were very small(one even had a grass runway). I think I've seen more first course jumpers at them than I've seen at Skydive America or Skydive Miami. Class sizes of 4 to 5 students were average and once I saw 3 instructors handle 21 new students. I've done both SL and AFF, both have their pluses and minuses. The debate on whether SL or AFF better is pointless, neither system will make you a better skydiver than the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pilotdave 0 #16 September 29, 2002 QuoteCan anyone point me to a site with details and a comparison between static line and AFF courses, please? Dunno if this is meaningless or not, but recently I was trying to find some stats on student fatalities (to answer the second most common question I get). Do some searches on http://www.skydivingfatalities.com for people with very low jump numbers. There may be other factors at play, but the number of static line deaths is higher than AFF (or tandem). I have no idea what percentage of students learn by static line nowadays, but I'm thinking its gotta be pretty low. I've never done a static line jump, never seen a static line jump being done (other than paratroopers at airshows), and know very little about it. I started off with AFF1 and I have no regrets. Static line just scares me. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #17 September 29, 2002 I think AFF and SL are about the same as far as safety goes. You can't go by the fatality records because you can't tell how many students are SL vs AFF, and a student will be in SL for double the jumps a student would be in AFF(15-20 jumps til grad compared to 7-10). The DZs I started at used SL and they were very small(one even had a grass runway). I think I've seen more first course jumpers at them than I've seen at Skydive America or Skydive Miami. Class sizes of 4 to 5 students were average and once I saw 3 instructors handle 21 new students. I've done both SL and AFF, both have their pluses and minuses. The debate on whether SL or AFF better is pointless, neither system will make you a better skydiver than the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites