What did he do?

[Skitzo 0]

In the Sept. issue of Parachutist they made an announcement that USPA revoked the membership and ratings of Benjamin Rayner for life. Who the hell is Benjamin Rayner, does he measure the f#$%ing air?(Harlem Nights quote) Anyway I hate it when they make a statement like that and don't tell you why. Does anyone out there know what he did? Curiosity is killing this kitty!

Oh yeah, please don't spell check me Michelle. That was sooo funny!
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"How do you keep your feet on the ground when you know you were born to fly?"

[DJL 235]

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=201426;search_string=Benjamin%20Rayner%20;#201426

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[jraf 0]

Dude, I think he must have impregnated the daughter of the USPA president, cause they made it terminal. I figure he has two choics now: change his name or jump from trees. Or he can whip out his BPA membership card and "keep on dancing". At ZHills nobody knows.

jraf

Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui.
Muff #3275

[DJL 235]

So, what do you do? Quit jumping or move to another country?

-doug

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[Skitzo 0]

Thanks for hooking that up.
I would definitely change my name and hair color and even go so far as playing student at a tiny little dropzone somewhere to coincide with my new identity so I could keep jumping!

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"How do you keep your feet on the ground when you know you were born to fly?"

[skybytch 273]

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So, what do you do?

The only person I know who's had membership yanked quit jumping until he was reinstated.

What would I do? Not get in that situation in the first place I guess...

[jraf 0]

Neither dude! The guy is a Brit. So he goes to the UK, gets a British Parachute Association license and is perfectly legal to jump in the US. They took his USPA license. They have not banned him from US airspace. Have to be creative. But I still think he banged up the daughter of the USPA president, even if he does not have one

jraf

Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui.
Muff #3275

[jumpy 0]

I didn't think it was mandatory for people to belong to the USPA in america or is that just clubs?

[jraf 0]

Well licensing certifies that you can jump as you have a certain knowledge of skydiving. If you are not licensed the club is liable for what may happen to you. USPA is the licensing body. If you come off the street without your USPA license it is extremely unlikely that you will be allowed to jump.

jraf

Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui.
Muff #3275

[ChileRelleno 0]

Don't quote me on this but I think that technically when jumping at a USPA DZ you are supposed to have atleast a "temporary" USPA membership or foriegn equivalent.At USPA DZ's when you commit to going thru a student status one of the first things you'll do is apply for membership which covers their arse and yours.
Correct me if I'm off base...

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[Kris 0]

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Well licensing certifies that you can jump as you have a certain knowledge of skydiving. If you are not licensed the club is liable for what may happen to you. USPA is the licensing body. If you come off the street without your USPA license it is extremely unlikely that you will be allowed to jump.

Ummm. No. That's what your logbook and the waiver are for.

The reason that the (mostly USPA Group Member) DZ want you to be a USPA member comes down to one simple thing: Insurance. As a USPA member, you carry liability insurance.

The DZ, club, whatever accepts no liability from you, or you from them.,the second you sign the waiver. They just want to make sure that you have insurance in case you happen to land on a plane, power-lines, car, etc...

If you cut-away a bag-lock and it crashes through the roof of a house, it's covered as a USPA member.

It's really the only reason I still bother to renew.

Kris
IAD-JM/I

Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and
Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™

[PhreeZone 20]

I was told some stuff like if it happens at a non GM site now its not covered... any one know if this is really the caser and when did it change?

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[Kris 0]

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I was told some stuff like if it happens at a non GM site now its not covered... any one know if this is really the caser and when did it change?

I would be very surprised if that were true. The insurance is supposed to cover any current USPA member-skydiver making a legal (i.e. non-bandit, not through clouds, etc...) jump.

I would guess the person to talk to at USPA for a definitive answer would be either Jim Couch(?) or Toni at USPA.

Kris

Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and
Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™

[skybytch 273]

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It's really the only reason I still bother to renew.

Kris
IAD-JM/I

Well, the insurance and the fact that your ratings don't mean shit if your membership isn't current (unless of course you're working at a non-GM dz)...

[Kris 0]

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Well, the insurance and the fact that your ratings don't mean shit if your membership isn't current (unless of course you're working at a non-GM dz)...

Heh. Yeah, well, there's that, too.

Kris

Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and
Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™

[AndyMan 7]

So he lost his USPA and CSPA membership for life because he jumped through clouds over an airport with traffic in the pattern?

Sounds odd to me... I wonder what role the FAA had in having him suspended.

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