kallend 2,027 #26 September 19, 2002 Quoteramon wrote: "All they really seem to care about is Formation skydiving." I wish someone had told us that before we spent all that time providing the coverage we *did* provide! Sure would have saved us a whole lotta work. Well now we know better. Next year, we'll just let some other sucker do all that work for nothin'. t1 Thanks, Ted and Tim, for all the hard work and good vibes. It wasn't for nothing; just ignore the whiners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #27 September 19, 2002 QuoteWell now we know better. Listen to the emails you got. Lots of us had it bookmarked and spent way too much time there. What you guys do is very, very much appreciated! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #28 September 19, 2002 Welcome to the forum, T1!! Thanks to quade also, as I'm sure he extended the invitation. I, for one, was relieved and very happy to see Omniskore at SDC for Nats. Thanks guys for providing a wonderful service! You ROCK!! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dove 0 #29 September 19, 2002 I don't know you guys personally but I know you ROCK! Thank you so much for all you do - that is a TON of work I'm sure! Not only results, but pics of the teams! So incredibly cool! Love the tidbits section too. Bravo on a job well done! dove Fall in dove. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #30 September 19, 2002 Wow. Don't take offense. Several of us complain and it gets back to you, you register and respond with venom. Not that I am not grateful for the coverage you did provide. Last year It was fine. and I certainly did see several explanations in this thread for why you did not finish. And they are quite acceptible, seeing as how SDC completely turned off of nationals and people are having a hard time over there knowing what happened. But, a couple of us got together voiced our opinions here, got chastised for it by wreckdot kallend and had a fine explanation posted by Quade. The actual reality is everyone that is curious about nationals free events that did not follow this thread is talking about it behind your backs (assuming they do not have access to all the facts presented in this forum). We posted here, it got back to you and now you know. You don't actually owe us anything and we are technically not even your customers since you don't get a single thing from doing this, however it is like giving a dog a snack every day at 5:00 they come to expect it just like when gear manufacturers come here to put out fires about their product we may as well be BSing at the DZ but here it is public... BFD"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #31 September 19, 2002 actually i was one of the guys beating the refresh button at work during the nationals so i really appreciate all the results, anecdotes and pictures you guys posted.. i totally understand your reasons for returning when you did, but as a FF it would have been wonderful to get the same level/depth of coverage that we got for the RW events. once again thanks for all the work you did do. if work schedule permits i'll be at nationals next year and would be happy to volunteer some time to help!____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #32 September 19, 2002 We do appreciate all the work you guys do to keep us informed. I've worked a big way event and know how difficult it can be to get timely info much less get it posted rapidly. Any idea when the rest of the Champions pics will be posted? Want to see Trent, Jed and Stevie. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omniguy2 0 #33 September 19, 2002 The T1 unit weighs in! First, we are very appreciative of all the great feedback and we know that the vast majority of viewers out there are grateful for the services that we provide. Thank you! Second, we will always do our best to cover all the events that we can, as much as we can. The idea that the non-FS events were slighted is wrong and hurtful. Yes, we didn't get all the results posted in a timely matter. But it had NOTHING to do with not wanting to support all of the events. - Tim "T2" Wagner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omniguy2 0 #34 September 19, 2002 Oops, I'm having another identity crisis. That should be T2, not T1! - Elvis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 September 19, 2002 Well, now, wait a minute! I -know- you're not Elvis, 'cause it's your twin brother that plays the guitar! Oooo. This is getting spooky.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #36 September 19, 2002 ALL the results are up and posted on the OmniSkore web site! Thanks Ted! Thanks Tim! Thanks Amy! Thanks Ryan! Oh, I almost forgot because he blends so much into the background "just" being a judge and Chris too! (Was Mom and Dad there this year? I missed them!) Without all of the entire Wagner Family efforts and patience, Nationals would NOT be the same. For me, they are the one consistant thing I've grown to rely on and appreciate in that annual event. Thank you.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #37 September 19, 2002 THANKS T1 and T2!!!!!! Its a lot of thankless work but I love the results! Keep up the good work and let the DZ.com community know if you need any help, we seem to be stuffed to the gills with geeks here.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #38 September 19, 2002 Hey, I expect you guys to replace my "F5" key please. It's all your fault it doesn't work anymore, and I demand to be compensated. My lawyer will be in touch with my mailing address...it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #39 September 19, 2002 QuoteTHANKS T1 and T2!!!!!! Its a lot of thankless work but I love the results! Keep up the good work and let the DZ.com community know if you need any help, we seem to be stuffed to the gills with geeks here. Hey Tim and Ted, thanks for using my pictures too. Nothing like boosting a pilot's overinflated ego. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omniguy2 0 #40 September 19, 2002 The Omniskore webmaster takes a break from the grind to bask in the (mostly) warm glow of this lovely thread... PS For sale: One used PC case (slightly bent) and one PC power supply (totally dead). -T2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #41 September 20, 2002 Here are pictures from the Skysurfing awards ceremony. Aside from the competitors, a few Freesyle and Freeflying competitors, and the CReW team I shot video for, there was no one there (asside from Roger and the judges). I think some changes will happen before the next nationals. Mark Klingelhoefer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #42 September 20, 2002 The stated purpose of the Nationals is to select representatives for the International meets. As long as the FAI has International Skysurfing Competitions, I think that the USPA should also have it at the Nationals -- no matter how lightly it is attended. The amazing thing to me is that we -do- have some of the best skysurfers in the world -- just not a lot of competition. Further, if you really wanted to change the situation, try adding skysurf to the local meets to drum up interest! Don't kill it!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #43 September 20, 2002 Maybe not kill it, but schedule in between some of the FS stuff at nationals to be more visually seen. Like 4 way, then Freestlye/freefly, then 8 way, then crw, then 10 way, then Skysurf, then 16 way.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #44 September 20, 2002 I don't think that would work for a number of logistical reasons but mostly the amount of time everyone that wanted to compete in ALL the FS events would have to stick around. I think it would be an issue with judge availability as well since not all judges can judge everything. Interesting concept, but they'd need to put a heck of a lot of thought into how they woudl do it -- something hosts and meet directors are usually not known for. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heltzer 0 #45 September 22, 2002 Funny you guys should mention scheduling... During this past Nationals in Chicago, there was an Artistic Events "discussion" held that raised that very issue of when to schedule skysurfing, freeflying and freestyle. Most agreed (events director Tony Thacker, all the AE judges, and all the AE competitors in attendance) that the best time to hold all AE events would be at the beginning of the nationals competition. That way, (1) there is a buildup to the main event (RW), (2) the relatively low participation AE events would not hold excessive staff and other resources over once RW had completed, (3) AE competitors could benefit from the same high volume attendance at their awards ceremony that RW experiences, and (4) AE would receive greater exposure as opposed to holding the events until after 99% of everyone else had already left. Lawrence Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites