Unconscious AFF or S/L student?

[drenaline 0]

After reading the unconscious tandem passenger it made me wonder: have you ever seen or heard of a unconscious AFF or S/L student? and what you or the instructor did?

HISPA 21
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[ernokaikkonen 0]

I've never heard of anything like that (not saying that it didn't happen, I'm sure that's happened somewhere).

But what are you going to do? When the S/L-student leaves the plane, there's nothing left to do. You can only observe the student not steering the canopy, and not responding to radio... Same thing with AFF I guess; After opening the students parachute there isn't much to do...

...Unless the AFFI wants to get real adventurous and do a CRW-dock from above... I guess not.

Erno

[jumpy 0]

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...Unless the AFFI wants to get real adventurous and do a CRW-dock from above... I guess not.
Erno

Yeah i was thinking that...would you actually be able to steer them like that? Probably wouldn't work for very long anyway since the instructors gonna be flying a much smaller canopy then the student....

[ernokaikkonen 0]

>Yeah i was thinking that...would you actually be able to steer them like
>that?

I'd imagine yes. The canopy configuration would be correct in that the higher loaded canopy would be on top

BUT

The risks of doing a from-above-dock(is there a proper english term for that?) with non-matching non-CF-canopies would IMO outweight the possible gains...

Erno

[jumpy 0]

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The risks of doing a from-above-dock(is there a proper english term for that?) with non-matching non-CF-canopies would IMO outweight the possible gains...

Yeah even if you do point them in your desired direction and then let them go they still have to survive the landing...

[PhreeZone 20]

This has been attempted and comlpeted before when a person was injured in a CRW formation. They were able to dock on him and point him way from high tension power lines and probally saved his life. (It was on RealTV )

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[PhreeZone 20]

Should'nt be an issue of surviving the landing if you land the stack. The student will be under a large canopy and the brakes will still be set so it should'nt be to hard ont them.

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[ernokaikkonen 0]

>This has been attempted and comlpeted before when a person was
>injured in a CRW formation.

Whoa. Cool.. Still, it is much more doable with matching CF-specific canopies...

Erno

[Zinger 0]

Many years ago I was J/M static line stu's outta a 182. A girl in her 20's did everything she was suppose to all the way to hanging on the strut. I looked her in the eyes and yelled go! Her eyes rolled back and she was out cold, funny thing is she did a pretty good exit, definitely a relaxed exit, I have seen awake people do worse. Well the pilot an I immediately contacted the d/z owner and ground crew via radio and told them she was unconscious, they asked what to do and I suggested yelling "wake-up" on her radio, the pilot and I could hear them yelling on the radio as we flew around her with our door open and watching, she awoke, looked down and started screaming and kicking, stopped screaming, gained her composure and listened to her radio/ground crew, landed, threw up, took her gear off where she landed and ran to her car never to be heard from again..lol.. It's funny now that everything worked itself out but was very interesting as it was happening.

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[drenaline 0]

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she awoke, looked down and started screaming and kicking, stopped screaming, gained her composure and listened to her radio/ground crew, landed, threw up, took her gear off where she landed and ran to her car never to be heard from again

Cool story! sooo how many days did it took the DZ staff to stop laughing at that? good thing everything turned out ok.

I heard of a student that got line twist or started spinning and fainted, they tried screaming at her with the radio but it was a no good, she biffed, woke up and started walking as if nothing had happened. The big 230 made his job!

HISPA 21
www.panamafreefall.com

[Zinger 0]

We have not stopped laughing about it, Scary thing is she did great all threw the class and ride and climb out, just blacked out when it was time to leave on "go".
I left a funny part out of that story, After she landed and we heard she was O.k, I turned to the 2 remaining stu's in the back of the plane and said "See she's O.k, Just got a little sleepy..lol..your next". Both went and did real well. It was a new jump pilot at the time and to this day he loves telling that story around the fire.

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[pilotdave 0]

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...Unless the AFFI wants to get real adventurous and do a CRW-dock from above...

I remember on my first jump the instructors were re-boarding the plane by the time I touched down. I doubt it would be possible for an AFF instructor to get above a student, unless he opened first.

On one of the last jumps I did a few weeks ago, I was the first person out of the plane (an otter), and second to last on the ground. Even tandems beat me down. And I think they even did a second pass! Whatcha all in such a hurry to land for?
I did see an emergency CRW dock like that on Real TV though. It's been on a million times. They were attempting a para-bungy jump. 2 guys leave the plane, each attached to opposite ends of a long bungy cord. One guy opens, the other guy hangs below. It worked till they tried it at terminal and the cord snapped, knocking one of them unconscious. The camera flyer docked on him and brought him down to land. As they touched down, a crowd had gathered to watch their landing. The camera flyer yells out "can you give him a hand?!" and everyone starts applauding.

Dave

Dave