Sinkster 0 #76 August 30, 2002 hah, ur rite I am just picking fun (no harm intended) and post mongering. Like this one: The modern American tourist now fills his experience with pseudo-events. He has come to expect both more strangeness and more familiarity than the world naturally offers. He has come to believe that he can have a lifetime of adventure in two weeks and all the thrills of risking his life without any real risk at all. -Daniel Boorstin (historian) (printed 1961) Disney anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #77 August 30, 2002 OK Bytch..........20 years from now when we have lavendar hair, doin the gravel shuffle and pushin our carts...I'll look over at you and say "man remember when that thread went sideways?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #78 August 30, 2002 No, I guess I would probably say I used to skydive. Of course I would have to say "back in the days when men could fuck a good sheep and still have time to post whore." _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jraf 0 #79 August 30, 2002 What a very true point. I think this discussion has come to a point where we are trying to prove that we are better believers that others, cause we say at least on prayer more. If that is the case than I will just jump alone. I had enough frustrated, confused individuals with inferiority complex in the corporate world. People! Get a life! Let's have fun together and not be like little boys going: "Nana nana nana I got more baseball cards than you do! And you daddy only has a GTO and mine has a Mustang. And the GTO does not have a horse on the grill and the Mustang has, nana nana nana" This is a real quote! I was 4 years old and my Dad had the GTO. I was 4 years old and I vowed NEVER to be like my poor little 6 year old small minded friend who's dad had the Mustang. Peace,jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #80 August 30, 2002 What if I was, God forbid, injured or worse on my 7th jump. Wouldn't they say "he was injured skydiving?" --------------------- A) I feel funny arguing about the definition of a skydiver with someone who has done a couple of tandems. B) Of course, if you are injured skydiving, then it will be said that you were injured skydiving. C) Being injured waterskiing does not make me a waterskier. Being injured racing my friend on the road does not make me a racecar driver. Being injured having sex with a goat does not make me a goat f**ker. Oh, wait a second...strike that last one. The more you know in this sport, the more you realize you don't know. The more experienced you are, the more experience you realize you don't have. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katecooper 0 #81 August 30, 2002 Hi Betsy Fair 'nuff. I certainly didn't ever intend to get this conversation going in the direction it did. I just perked up to a quote of mine being used to describe the definition of skydivers. I certainly do not think time in sport, number of jumps, or even success in various disciplines defines a skydiver. I was a skydiver after my first static line (I started in the bad old days), and, upon reflection of my life prior to that event, I have been a "jumper" all my life. I just needed to find like minded souls, and I did at the local dropzone. Blue skies to all the skydivers in the forum, and the offer of a skydive is open to all comers, space and time available. Now, since I notice that 100% of the Square One (oops, blatant plug again) sales staff are all monitoring this thread, I respectively request that they GET BACK TO WORK! :-) blues kate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #82 August 30, 2002 I don't really care how much "staying power" I will have in skydiving. When and if I stop it will be because it is no longer worth the time, money and risk to me. I'm in it for the fun, not to prove something to someone. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #83 August 30, 2002 QuoteI respectively request that they GET BACK TO WORK! :-) DOH!!!! Busted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #84 August 30, 2002 GET BACK TO WORK! :-) -------------- [whiny voice] Awe, can't I stay and play just a little bit longer??? Please??? I promise to do all my chores, and I'll never ask for anything ever again!!! [/whiny voice] :) -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jraf 0 #85 August 30, 2002 QuoteI don't really care how much "staying power" I will have in skydiving. When and if I stop it will be because it is no longer worth the time, money and risk to me. I'm in it for the fun, not to prove something to someone. That is so true! It's all about the fun. I fully agree and support. The day it looses it's appeal will be sad, but then it will be time to move onjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JDBoston 0 #86 August 30, 2002 My view on this thread's current subject (when does a skydiver become a "real" skydiver) is pretty much "who cares." Everyone has their own idea of at what point their efforts have entitled them to claim the "glory" of being a skydiver, and that's fine with me. I do, though, have a VERY big problem with someone doing 1 jump and trying to pass themselves off to adoring whuffos as a skydiver (while sober). I think that's pathetic, in a very NON-subjective way, and disrespectful to all the people who have fed a great deal of money, time, and courage into the student process and emerged on the other side. There are plenty of acquaintances of mine who have made 1 or 2 tandems at some point in their life, and I never even knew that until I started getting into skydiving and talking about it with people. They didn't hide it, but they hadn't been broadcasting it either, and I think that's the mature and CORRECT approach for anyone who's so far just dipped their toe into something, under very controlled conditions. No offense to any ASPIRING skydivers we have here - I know you guys will forge ahead! I know it's a common joke that skydivers can't stop telling people they skydive, and I've done that myself plenty of times in very un-subtle and self-serving ways, typically in the course of trying to get some ass. But I console myself with the fact that I've always been scrupulously honest about my experience level (not that any of the slags I was trying to impress knew the difference anyway!), and I didn't wear any skydiving shit until I got my license. Or at least until I finished AFF, whatever, I don't really remember. And by the way, I have no illusions of being any kind of authority on any aspect of skydiving just because I have a license. I'm just a raw beginner and I will be for years to come. But to the extent that skydiver means "someone who skydives," I am definitely a skydiver, and since I've done a little bit more than roll out of bed one morning and come home with a video and a certificate, I personally feel like I have earned the right to use that word. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoby 0 #87 August 30, 2002 Quotethat's why they make us wear these horrific orange (really bright!) overalls that are at least six sizes too big (roll up sleeves roll up legs). can see they are only worn by students judging from the nr of times they have been patched, if at all. Nothing like a bit of ventilation Our DZ actually has a bunch of orange jumpsuits left over from when they filmed Ther Mole there. Anyway, nobody will wear them, except myself and my friend Andy. We love wearing them. However, since our dropzone is next door to a federal prison, everytime we put them on, every single person there has to remind us, "don't land in the prison." It was funny perhaps the first 50 times... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jraf 0 #88 August 30, 2002 Could not agree more. I also agree: It's justified to brag a bit when trying to get laid. I mean anything is justified thenjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #89 August 30, 2002 Quote"don't land in the prison." It was funny perhaps the first 50 times... Scoby, just how many times have you landed in prison? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JDBoston 0 #90 August 30, 2002 It's true, it's true. I do want to clarify, though, that I think I understand what Kate is saying and, though I lack the time/experience to really know, my instinct is that she's right. If some activity is really a part of someone's makeup, a part of who they are, then they won't be ABLE to stop doing it. They'll simply make sure (consciously or unconsciously) that they never make choices that start them on the road to totally giving it up. I can see that in many of my friends who are passionate about one thing or another. No matter what, they always make a bit of time for it, and I suspect they always will. I questioned my own true motivation at many points during my first 20-30 jumps, and occasionally I still do. I think having something to prove was part of it initially, as was the fact that jumping just seemed intriguing. Fortunately, the more I do it, the more I'm convinced that I do it just because I enjoy the activity and I enjoy the people and the atmosphere, but I don't think I will have really proven that to myself until I've spent a substantial amount of time in the sport. Anyway, I think I'm going to go hit on some non-skydiving law school girls tonight. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #91 August 30, 2002 "If some activity is really a part of someone's makeup, a part of who they are, then they won't be ABLE to stop doing it. " I'll agree, they might not want to stop. I don't agree that if you HAVE to stop jumping, that you somehow lose the love for the sport and the emotional lessons about life that you learn. Skydiving has definitely changed my personality, life, and perspectives. I don't think it is possible to lose that. If I quit skydiving, I will remain a "skydiver". I attended a party for a friend who was forced (shoulder injury) to leave the sport. He had over 9,000 jumps and was recognized by everyone in the sport as one of the best. He is still one of the best skydivers in the world in my opinion, even though he cannot jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Luminous 0 #92 August 30, 2002 QuoteAnyway, I think I'm going to go hit on some non-skydiving law school girls tonight. Joe Screw what we think... to the non-skydiving law school girls... YOU ARE A SKYDIVER !!! "skydiving is not stupid!! It's Brave and Irresponsible!" 'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JDBoston 0 #93 August 30, 2002 Both good points. Injuries obviously aren't something you have any control over. And I don't think it means that someone loves the sport less if they stop for whatever reason they have, it's just that I can see there being a kind of categorical distinction between people who do it for even a very long while, but maybe not super long (tourists, per Kate's definition) and people who never stop. I don't know that any specific term was ever put forward for the latter category, and I would agree that everyone who skydives is a "skydiver," but I know that in my own life I have things that I LIKE to do and things that I can't NOT do. Given perfect conditions, and time, and money, maybe no one outside my own head could tell the difference between them right now. But in 10 or 20 years, someone who looks at what I do then, and what I did when I was 26, will probably be able to make a fairly accurate pronouncement on which is which. It's kind of a hair-splitting, philosophical subject, and certainly implies no disrespect, in my opinion, to people who give a lot to the sport but cannot continue in it for whatever reason. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #94 August 30, 2002 Good post. Agreed...philosophical (which is why I like it), hair splitting (which I irritatingly get off on), and meaning no disrespect. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sassy 0 #95 August 30, 2002 This whole subject has been quite interesting. I've gotten nothing done today at work. But then again I've haven't gotten much done since my tandem and finding DZ.com..LOL. I'll say again, I've done my first tandem but it won't be the last. It was not a once in a lifetime experience for me, it was the beginning of a lifetime of skydiving experiences for me. And yes I'm obnoxious and tell anyone who will listen about it and even some who won't listen. All those poor people in Los Angeles at the hotel and airport and in my training class...LOL. And all the poor unsuspecting souls back here at home . I don't call myself a skydiver yet...but WATCH OUT, because here I come. I WILL be one of the few that continues on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freaksister 0 #96 August 30, 2002 Ok - what makes an ACTIVE skydiver? How uncurrent do you have to be to be considered a skydiver, but a relatively non-active one? Just wondering your opinions on that. No, not for myself. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jraf 0 #97 August 30, 2002 9 years, 9000 jumps you say. Well sorry to brake the news, but according to some on this thread (who's names I shall not mention in order not to put them to shame...) that is just not good enough. No Sir, your friend is not a true skydiver for he has not been 10 years in the sport. So off you go, tell your frind he is not a skydier! And then let me share the laugh with you guysjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamsville 0 #98 August 30, 2002 Well shut up!?! That's how much they charge out there? At first I thought it might have been a little bit about "up jumpers" and where they were trained/hook turns/etc. Now I know it's all about dough. Harry PS It's good to see people at least trying it though. Fatheaded as they may become after one jump without intent to do more.I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freaksister 0 #99 August 30, 2002 I just don't get it. You know, I don't get much respect because I only jump twice a week or so. Even though I live with an SDU and canopy coach, spend most of my waking hours and dreamtime living a skydiving life, etc. Two or three jumps a week - that is what I want right now. I know a lot of people who haven't jumped at all in a while, because of money or work or whatever, but they still love this sport. I still think they are skydivers. There is a guy at Dallas who jumped ages ago in the military but doesn't anymore because of health reasons. Yet he runs a cafe for us, is an EMT and firefighter, - usually first on the scene at a jumping accident - and so forth and spends more than five days a week at the dz. Is he not a skydiver? He understands our mentality better than I do. I think he should be considered a skydiver, but he's just not actively jumping. I think the statement that there is some elitist bullshit going on here is true. In my opinion, once a skydiver, always a skydiver. That doesn't necessarily make you an ACTIVE skydiver (read my other post!). Cheers, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #100 August 30, 2002 (who's names I shall not mention in order not to put them to shame...) --------------- Oh, thank god! I'm sure everyone who falls in this category who has openly posted their thoughts in this public forum really appreciates you not mentioning their names, cause that would just be waaaayyyy too embarassing. uh...yeah... -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 4 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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bbarnhouse 0 #77 August 30, 2002 OK Bytch..........20 years from now when we have lavendar hair, doin the gravel shuffle and pushin our carts...I'll look over at you and say "man remember when that thread went sideways?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #78 August 30, 2002 No, I guess I would probably say I used to skydive. Of course I would have to say "back in the days when men could fuck a good sheep and still have time to post whore." _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #79 August 30, 2002 What a very true point. I think this discussion has come to a point where we are trying to prove that we are better believers that others, cause we say at least on prayer more. If that is the case than I will just jump alone. I had enough frustrated, confused individuals with inferiority complex in the corporate world. People! Get a life! Let's have fun together and not be like little boys going: "Nana nana nana I got more baseball cards than you do! And you daddy only has a GTO and mine has a Mustang. And the GTO does not have a horse on the grill and the Mustang has, nana nana nana" This is a real quote! I was 4 years old and my Dad had the GTO. I was 4 years old and I vowed NEVER to be like my poor little 6 year old small minded friend who's dad had the Mustang. Peace,jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #80 August 30, 2002 What if I was, God forbid, injured or worse on my 7th jump. Wouldn't they say "he was injured skydiving?" --------------------- A) I feel funny arguing about the definition of a skydiver with someone who has done a couple of tandems. B) Of course, if you are injured skydiving, then it will be said that you were injured skydiving. C) Being injured waterskiing does not make me a waterskier. Being injured racing my friend on the road does not make me a racecar driver. Being injured having sex with a goat does not make me a goat f**ker. Oh, wait a second...strike that last one. The more you know in this sport, the more you realize you don't know. The more experienced you are, the more experience you realize you don't have. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katecooper 0 #81 August 30, 2002 Hi Betsy Fair 'nuff. I certainly didn't ever intend to get this conversation going in the direction it did. I just perked up to a quote of mine being used to describe the definition of skydivers. I certainly do not think time in sport, number of jumps, or even success in various disciplines defines a skydiver. I was a skydiver after my first static line (I started in the bad old days), and, upon reflection of my life prior to that event, I have been a "jumper" all my life. I just needed to find like minded souls, and I did at the local dropzone. Blue skies to all the skydivers in the forum, and the offer of a skydive is open to all comers, space and time available. Now, since I notice that 100% of the Square One (oops, blatant plug again) sales staff are all monitoring this thread, I respectively request that they GET BACK TO WORK! :-) blues kate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #82 August 30, 2002 I don't really care how much "staying power" I will have in skydiving. When and if I stop it will be because it is no longer worth the time, money and risk to me. I'm in it for the fun, not to prove something to someone. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #83 August 30, 2002 QuoteI respectively request that they GET BACK TO WORK! :-) DOH!!!! Busted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #84 August 30, 2002 GET BACK TO WORK! :-) -------------- [whiny voice] Awe, can't I stay and play just a little bit longer??? Please??? I promise to do all my chores, and I'll never ask for anything ever again!!! [/whiny voice] :) -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #85 August 30, 2002 QuoteI don't really care how much "staying power" I will have in skydiving. When and if I stop it will be because it is no longer worth the time, money and risk to me. I'm in it for the fun, not to prove something to someone. That is so true! It's all about the fun. I fully agree and support. The day it looses it's appeal will be sad, but then it will be time to move onjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #86 August 30, 2002 My view on this thread's current subject (when does a skydiver become a "real" skydiver) is pretty much "who cares." Everyone has their own idea of at what point their efforts have entitled them to claim the "glory" of being a skydiver, and that's fine with me. I do, though, have a VERY big problem with someone doing 1 jump and trying to pass themselves off to adoring whuffos as a skydiver (while sober). I think that's pathetic, in a very NON-subjective way, and disrespectful to all the people who have fed a great deal of money, time, and courage into the student process and emerged on the other side. There are plenty of acquaintances of mine who have made 1 or 2 tandems at some point in their life, and I never even knew that until I started getting into skydiving and talking about it with people. They didn't hide it, but they hadn't been broadcasting it either, and I think that's the mature and CORRECT approach for anyone who's so far just dipped their toe into something, under very controlled conditions. No offense to any ASPIRING skydivers we have here - I know you guys will forge ahead! I know it's a common joke that skydivers can't stop telling people they skydive, and I've done that myself plenty of times in very un-subtle and self-serving ways, typically in the course of trying to get some ass. But I console myself with the fact that I've always been scrupulously honest about my experience level (not that any of the slags I was trying to impress knew the difference anyway!), and I didn't wear any skydiving shit until I got my license. Or at least until I finished AFF, whatever, I don't really remember. And by the way, I have no illusions of being any kind of authority on any aspect of skydiving just because I have a license. I'm just a raw beginner and I will be for years to come. But to the extent that skydiver means "someone who skydives," I am definitely a skydiver, and since I've done a little bit more than roll out of bed one morning and come home with a video and a certificate, I personally feel like I have earned the right to use that word. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #87 August 30, 2002 Quotethat's why they make us wear these horrific orange (really bright!) overalls that are at least six sizes too big (roll up sleeves roll up legs). can see they are only worn by students judging from the nr of times they have been patched, if at all. Nothing like a bit of ventilation Our DZ actually has a bunch of orange jumpsuits left over from when they filmed Ther Mole there. Anyway, nobody will wear them, except myself and my friend Andy. We love wearing them. However, since our dropzone is next door to a federal prison, everytime we put them on, every single person there has to remind us, "don't land in the prison." It was funny perhaps the first 50 times... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #88 August 30, 2002 Could not agree more. I also agree: It's justified to brag a bit when trying to get laid. I mean anything is justified thenjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #89 August 30, 2002 Quote"don't land in the prison." It was funny perhaps the first 50 times... Scoby, just how many times have you landed in prison? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #90 August 30, 2002 It's true, it's true. I do want to clarify, though, that I think I understand what Kate is saying and, though I lack the time/experience to really know, my instinct is that she's right. If some activity is really a part of someone's makeup, a part of who they are, then they won't be ABLE to stop doing it. They'll simply make sure (consciously or unconsciously) that they never make choices that start them on the road to totally giving it up. I can see that in many of my friends who are passionate about one thing or another. No matter what, they always make a bit of time for it, and I suspect they always will. I questioned my own true motivation at many points during my first 20-30 jumps, and occasionally I still do. I think having something to prove was part of it initially, as was the fact that jumping just seemed intriguing. Fortunately, the more I do it, the more I'm convinced that I do it just because I enjoy the activity and I enjoy the people and the atmosphere, but I don't think I will have really proven that to myself until I've spent a substantial amount of time in the sport. Anyway, I think I'm going to go hit on some non-skydiving law school girls tonight. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #91 August 30, 2002 "If some activity is really a part of someone's makeup, a part of who they are, then they won't be ABLE to stop doing it. " I'll agree, they might not want to stop. I don't agree that if you HAVE to stop jumping, that you somehow lose the love for the sport and the emotional lessons about life that you learn. Skydiving has definitely changed my personality, life, and perspectives. I don't think it is possible to lose that. If I quit skydiving, I will remain a "skydiver". I attended a party for a friend who was forced (shoulder injury) to leave the sport. He had over 9,000 jumps and was recognized by everyone in the sport as one of the best. He is still one of the best skydivers in the world in my opinion, even though he cannot jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous 0 #92 August 30, 2002 QuoteAnyway, I think I'm going to go hit on some non-skydiving law school girls tonight. Joe Screw what we think... to the non-skydiving law school girls... YOU ARE A SKYDIVER !!! "skydiving is not stupid!! It's Brave and Irresponsible!" 'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #93 August 30, 2002 Both good points. Injuries obviously aren't something you have any control over. And I don't think it means that someone loves the sport less if they stop for whatever reason they have, it's just that I can see there being a kind of categorical distinction between people who do it for even a very long while, but maybe not super long (tourists, per Kate's definition) and people who never stop. I don't know that any specific term was ever put forward for the latter category, and I would agree that everyone who skydives is a "skydiver," but I know that in my own life I have things that I LIKE to do and things that I can't NOT do. Given perfect conditions, and time, and money, maybe no one outside my own head could tell the difference between them right now. But in 10 or 20 years, someone who looks at what I do then, and what I did when I was 26, will probably be able to make a fairly accurate pronouncement on which is which. It's kind of a hair-splitting, philosophical subject, and certainly implies no disrespect, in my opinion, to people who give a lot to the sport but cannot continue in it for whatever reason. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #94 August 30, 2002 Good post. Agreed...philosophical (which is why I like it), hair splitting (which I irritatingly get off on), and meaning no disrespect. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sassy 0 #95 August 30, 2002 This whole subject has been quite interesting. I've gotten nothing done today at work. But then again I've haven't gotten much done since my tandem and finding DZ.com..LOL. I'll say again, I've done my first tandem but it won't be the last. It was not a once in a lifetime experience for me, it was the beginning of a lifetime of skydiving experiences for me. And yes I'm obnoxious and tell anyone who will listen about it and even some who won't listen. All those poor people in Los Angeles at the hotel and airport and in my training class...LOL. And all the poor unsuspecting souls back here at home . I don't call myself a skydiver yet...but WATCH OUT, because here I come. I WILL be one of the few that continues on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaksister 0 #96 August 30, 2002 Ok - what makes an ACTIVE skydiver? How uncurrent do you have to be to be considered a skydiver, but a relatively non-active one? Just wondering your opinions on that. No, not for myself. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #97 August 30, 2002 9 years, 9000 jumps you say. Well sorry to brake the news, but according to some on this thread (who's names I shall not mention in order not to put them to shame...) that is just not good enough. No Sir, your friend is not a true skydiver for he has not been 10 years in the sport. So off you go, tell your frind he is not a skydier! And then let me share the laugh with you guysjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #98 August 30, 2002 Well shut up!?! That's how much they charge out there? At first I thought it might have been a little bit about "up jumpers" and where they were trained/hook turns/etc. Now I know it's all about dough. Harry PS It's good to see people at least trying it though. Fatheaded as they may become after one jump without intent to do more.I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaksister 0 #99 August 30, 2002 I just don't get it. You know, I don't get much respect because I only jump twice a week or so. Even though I live with an SDU and canopy coach, spend most of my waking hours and dreamtime living a skydiving life, etc. Two or three jumps a week - that is what I want right now. I know a lot of people who haven't jumped at all in a while, because of money or work or whatever, but they still love this sport. I still think they are skydivers. There is a guy at Dallas who jumped ages ago in the military but doesn't anymore because of health reasons. Yet he runs a cafe for us, is an EMT and firefighter, - usually first on the scene at a jumping accident - and so forth and spends more than five days a week at the dz. Is he not a skydiver? He understands our mentality better than I do. I think he should be considered a skydiver, but he's just not actively jumping. I think the statement that there is some elitist bullshit going on here is true. In my opinion, once a skydiver, always a skydiver. That doesn't necessarily make you an ACTIVE skydiver (read my other post!). Cheers, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #100 August 30, 2002 (who's names I shall not mention in order not to put them to shame...) --------------- Oh, thank god! I'm sure everyone who falls in this category who has openly posted their thoughts in this public forum really appreciates you not mentioning their names, cause that would just be waaaayyyy too embarassing. uh...yeah... -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
