SBS 0 #1 August 21, 2002 Does anyone think that we could close a thread that involves serious conversation without someone chiming in and insulting someone, resulting in the end of the thread being a big padlock? I think we did pretty good...4 days, 160 some posts, and some pretty serious discussion. I maintain my vote that "Aren't they all better off???" was a good thread. Thank you to everyone that participated. -Steve_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #2 August 21, 2002 noif fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 August 21, 2002 DZ.COM is becoming a victim of its' own success. As more and more people discover DZ.COM, there will be a certain dilution in the ratio of people that can behave themselves v. people that don't quite have a handle on the rules -- or care about them. All it really takes is one person without a respect or regard for the rules to get the thread locked.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #4 August 21, 2002 I'm sorry I got the thread locked Please don't jump to the conclusions -mind you- that I don't respect the rules... come on. A heated post it was, a personal attack it wasn't... I hope Rhino is not upset... I really didn't mean the 'thanks' provided for fighting for our rights to be regarded as sarcastic. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 August 21, 2002 I wasn't making any statments specifically about you -- just the nature of the DZ.COM "beast".quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #6 August 21, 2002 Yeah but I'm the "one person" that "chimmed in" and got the thread locked I'm also relatively new to DZ.com, and Canadian so my posting here in the first place is because of DZ.com's success. Anyway, I don't think you're being "victimized" by your success. The more oppinions the better. As long as people keep there emotions in check right? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #7 August 21, 2002 and Canadian... ------------- Oh, geez, I'm sorry, I didn't realize...I wouldn't have been nearly as upset had I known...you just can't help it. I am sooo just joking. Just try to be nice next time...pleeeeezzze??? :) -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #8 August 21, 2002 QuoteAs long as people keep there emotions in check right? Bingo. Regarding personal attacks... I consider any statement directed primarily at one person that could be taken as an attack by that person to be a "personal attack." Since HH entrusted me with the magic "lock button" if you should have a problem with my interpretation of the meaning of "personal attack", please let him know. Discussing whether it was or wasn't an attack is, at this point, merely a waste of bandwidth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 August 21, 2002 Well, the problem is that most people (especially skydivers for cryin' out loud) can't keep their emotions in check on certain topics. So, all it takes is one. Look at it this way... (And these numbers are only for ease of use) If the normal percentage of people that would make a comment resulting in getting a thread locked was 1 percent, then a thread with ten people involved would get locked about 1 out of 10 times. If 100 people were involved, the thread is almost sure to end in thread lock 100 percent of the time.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEB6363 0 #10 August 21, 2002 ...la...la...la...Blame Canada.......... Once the plane takes off, you're gonna have to land - Might as well jump out!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #11 August 21, 2002 Quote Since HH entrusted me with the magic "lock button" if you should have a problem with my interpretation of the meaning of "personal attack", please let him know. Discussing whether it was or wasn't an attack is, at this point, merely a waste of bandwidth. Woa! We are now discussing the length of the thread, the success of DZ.com, the difficulties in keeping many people in check at one time... etc. I may have mentioned it but I don't see anyone discussing whether or not my comment was a poor one. I have said nothing regarding your handling of the matter either. I just wanted to make sure the message get across to Rhino. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #12 August 21, 2002 I don't see anyone discussing whether or not my comment was a poor one. -------------- I think we touched on that in the last thread... Let's drop it and move on... You were getting ahead of the game with a simple, "sorry, didn't mean it". -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #13 August 21, 2002 Quote...la...la...la...Blame Canada.......... Well...it is usually their fault!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 25 #14 August 21, 2002 QuoteSince HH entrusted me with the magic "lock button" if you should have a problem with my interpretation of the meaning of "personal attack", please let him know. Discussing whether it was or wasn't an attack is, at this point, merely a waste of bandwidth. I have absolutely no problem with your interpretation of the meaning of "personal attack". I also agree, it is a pitty that thread had to get locked....Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #15 August 21, 2002 Quoteit is a pitty that thread had to get locked.... It's OK...these freakin Post Whores will start another..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #16 August 21, 2002 QuoteWell...it is usually their fault!!! No, it was one of the eastern block judges this time. The Canadians were robbed...----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #17 August 21, 2002 QuoteNo, it was one of the eastern block judges this time I'm sure it was their fault somehow....I mean...They're Canadians after all.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #18 August 22, 2002 QuoteI think we did pretty good...4 days, 160 some posts, and some pretty serious discussion. I maintain my vote that "Aren't they all better off???" was a good thread. Peace to all those involved in the "Aren't they all better off???" thread hopefully the concensus is we all agree to disagree and remain respecful of one another. I'm gonna say this and I don't want to start another 170 plus post thread. It's hard to understand the pain of another unless you expierience that pain yourself. I have more to say but like I said I don't want to start another endless thread ...So to all Peace Love and Happiness. PS I had a lot more Poop to say but the thread got Locked!! Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mayday 0 #19 August 22, 2002 QuoteIf the normal percentage of people that would make a comment resulting in getting a thread locked was 1 percent, then a thread with ten people involved would get locked about 1 out of 10 times. Is it just me, or does 1 percent of 10 = 0.1 rather than 1?? I really don't know because I am a ditzy blonde ;-) Sorry, just being a P.I.T.A. ;) peace out... May ;-) "saving the world before bedtime..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 August 22, 2002 Well, the way I have it figured is that if the percentage of people that would cause a lock were 1 percent then . . . 10 threads with 10 people = 100 people, so one of the threads is bound to get locked. That's a lockout rate of 1 out of 10. 1 thread with 100 people would almost certainly get locked. Again, I'm just using those numbers because they should be pretty easy to understand. Obviously, the real problem at DZ.COM would be far more complex, but the theory remains the same, the more people, the more likely it is that we'll have one person that occasionally doesn't know or follow the rules. All it takes is one person and a thread gets locked.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #21 August 22, 2002 QuoteAll it takes is one person and a thread gets locked. I'd respectfully disagree. IT takes a minimum of two people, one to offend and a minimum of one to perceive it as offensive and replies. It spirals downhill from there. I take that back, to be technical it takes the previous example plus one moderator, so a at least 3 people barring the exception of a moderator being offensive or or offended, has that ever happened? Similar to the tree falling in the woods, if a Moderator is offensive, do they lock their own thread? I'm not slamming or even thinking of any particular example, just voicing an opinion that it takes two to tango...I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 August 22, 2002 Grrrr.... All it takes is one bad apple to spoil the thread. But, if you're going to get nitpicky, it really only does take one person to lock a thread. I can certainly do it! quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #23 August 22, 2002 Hey Lummy Don't go poking the sleeping lion cub with a hot fork now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 August 22, 2002 QuoteI can certainly do it! Sure, what ever, yeah, I dare ya too...I bet you can't, you're just colored green because you're envious you're not in Texas... hehe--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #25 August 22, 2002 Just an observation and this may be slightly off topic. One of the family is back in the house. The prodigal son has returned so to speak. He has obviously made good and righted what was wrong...that is fine. My observation is that there is an element here that delights in goading the man. Whether out of malicious intent or simply a sense of mischief. That is not cool. He has handled it well and I imagine he will continue to do so. That said the intentions remain ugly. Like I said, just an observation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
