Westerfield Guilty on all counts

[JohnnyD 0]

he won't go into general population because of the possibility of the transfer to death row and also because of the nature of the case.

[JohnnyD 0]

>Don't lump me in with that crowd.

No lumping intended. Just meant to say that some people (no one here) have difficulty with sitting in judgement regardless of the evidence. Fortunately, this jury was fairly quick and just.

Local polls had the decision at 50/50. Many people were expecting a hung jury or an acquittal.

[Michele 1]

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if he does get the death penalty (I'm not sure that is an option in this case),

This was a special circumstance case, and he was found guilty of the special circumstance (if I am not greatly mistaken, the special circumstance was kidnap). If one is found guilty of special circumstances, they are then eligible for the death penalty.

Ciels and Pinks-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Muenkel 0]

I personally am not for the death penalty. With that said, I think him being "eliminated" by fellow prisoners is too merciful for him. I would like to see him do some really hard labor for a very long time.

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[JohnnyD 0]

>if I am not greatly mistaken, the special circumstance was kidnap
Correct. I believe there was also a special circumstance relating to the fact that she was 7 years old.

[lummy 4]

Thanks Michele, I saw that in Bill's post right after I had posted mine...

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[JohnnyD 0]

>I would like to see him do some really hard labor for a very long time

I would be for that as long as we could outsource that to....say the Mexican authorities. I believe they could handle the situation properly.

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I personally am not for the death penalty. With that said, I think him being "eliminated" by fellow prisoners is too merciful for him. I would like to see him do some really hard labor for a very long time.

Chris, I'm not trying to get off the subject, but why would it be any different if he was eliminated by fellow prisoners as opposed to a state function? Isn't the outcome the same?
With that out of the way, I'd agree.. throwing him into general population and being raped and sodomized for a few years would be a fitting punishment....
Eye for an eye so to speak

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[JohnnyD 0]

>why would it be any different if he was eliminated by fellow prisoners as opposed to a state function? Isn't the outcome the same?

If the state put him in general pop, he definitely would not last long. That is a given. His family would sue.

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That is a given. His family would sue.

Not if he signed a waiver....





Sorry bad joke

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[nws01 0]

Lummy was not so funny! Wazzup Lumster?

[Muenkel 0]

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Chris, I'm not trying to get off the subject, but why would it be any different if he was eliminated by fellow prisoners as opposed to a state function? Isn't the outcome the same?

Gary,

Maybe my phrasing was a little misleading. I personally not want the death penalty because I am opposed to it. I also feel that if the prisoners were to kill him, it would be too merciful. I want him to really suffer for the rest of his natural life as the VanDam's now have to.

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Luckily for the rest of us, so called "normal" criminals

Hehehehee.....I missed the comma in that the first time I read it....

LOL, funny how much that changes things..

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[JohnnyD 0]

>Not if he signed a waiver....
Its tough to find things to make you smile on some days. That did it. Gracias!

[Muenkel 0]

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Hehehehee.....I missed the comma in that the first time I read it....

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LOL, funny how much that changes things..

This is why Jessica has such an important role in this world!

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[lummy 4]

thanks for clarifieing Chris, I wasn't trying to give you SH*T about it, just trying to understand the comment....
It is funny how extraordinary events change how we view things however... For example, I would say that I am against the death penalty, but here I am hoping they fry the F'er... Why? Because I look at my daughter and think that it could have been her....

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[Muenkel 0]

Gary,

I knew you weren't giving me shit. What you are feeling is normal human emotion. Who wouldn't want to fry the fucker? But we must also use our sensible side and remove emotions. Otherwise we could become barbarians.

BTW, if anyone did hurt your daughter, I would reconsider my stand on the death penalty!

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[Viking 0]

A child rapist will last like 2 days in prison. Or he will spend the rest of his life with a very sore ass.

I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver
My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin

[Enrique 0]

....say the Mexican authorities. I believe they could handle the situation properly.***

Hey! What are you trying to say? You think criminals' human rights are actually violated here in Mexico? Just like in any other prison, if Westerfield were to be incarcerated here he would not live through the night.

Although, with regard to the living conditions of some inmates, you would be amazed about the circumstances under which guys with money used to live in the State Prison in Tijuana, at least until last night (too long to write down, but just imagine, private residences with TV, VCR, electrical appliances, nintendos, etc., etc., etc.). At around 3:00 a.m. this morning, approximatelly 2,000 federal agents went into the State Prison (with a Courts order, of course) and removed EVERYONE from their cells, isolation, and luxurious condos. The most dangerous criminals were transferred to High Security Prisons, and the rest were transferred to a new facility without their "priviliges"; they bulldozed everything down, and sealed the place off.

Now those are governmental "huevos". Everybody here in Tijuana is still in disbelief. It's just what the Country needs: BLUNT ACTIONS!

[skydiventom 0]

One note... the director of the center for missing and abused children says the incidence of these horrible crimes is actually decreasing.

My heart goes out to everyone affected by these horrible crimes.

"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana" -Groucho Marx- "Tom flies like a rock" -Tom Carson-

[freeflir29 0]

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Now those are governmental "huevos".

I'll say.....what's becoming of our lawless neighbors to the south?

[moodyskydiver 0]

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I just simply can't understand how the brutal rape and murder of a child is a cry for help.

I agree. Jury selection has begun here in my home town for a similar trial. A guy raped and murdered his 7 yr old step-daughter. I'm glad I'm a college student (therefore exempt from jury duty) b/c that kinda stuff bothers the hell outta me.

"...just an earthbound misfit, I."