Jimbo 0 #1 August 17, 2002 This is getting out of hand. It seems that the recording industry is now going after ISPs that allow their clients to access pirate music sites. They can't get the site so they'll get the ISP that allows its customers access to the site? Things sure have changed since the days of gopher and shell accounts. You can read all about it here - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #2 August 17, 2002 Hmm. That would make every ISP liable and every ISP a criminal. I think AOL Time Warner's legal department can quickly quash that one.... ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 August 17, 2002 It would be too much trouble for the industry to actually put a business model like this to use. Give the music away for free (low quality) on high speed lines to encourage people to listen to the artist. Then offer discounted sales if you order the CD/Tape/DVD/what ever right from the website then and there after listening to a song or two....Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #4 August 17, 2002 QuoteI think AOL Time Warner's legal department can quickly quash that one.... Agreed that it most likely won't go anywhere, but realize that no matter what the outcome we as consumers are the ones getting screwed. The action will cost the recording industry and the defendants, do you think those costs won't be passed down to us? Fuckers. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #5 August 18, 2002 i think the recording industry should be able to do more than that. can u imagine the sheer amount of money that internet piracy is costing them, and therfor us. thing is people dont see it as a crime yet if someone walked in to a shop and took a cd it would be highly frowned on. While ill admit i have downloaded a few songs in the past, it is stealing and should be punnished as such Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #6 August 18, 2002 Quote can u imagine the sheer amount of money that internet piracy is costing them Actually, most economists think that internet file sharing is HELPING them. Here's an article about Forester Research: http://www.theregus.com/content/6/26003.html Here's the nutshell by Forester: http://www.forrester.com/ER/Research/Report/Summary/0,1338,14854,FF.html _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #7 August 18, 2002 >It would be too much trouble for the industry to actually put a > business model like this to use. Someone eventually will. While most of them spend all their money suing people, some company will start giving lower quality recordings away for free and then charging a small amount for higher quality recordings. They will easily make up for volume what they lose in per-record sales especially since they don't have to make, ship, and market physical packages any more. Then, when they have an artist make it big, charge big bucks to see him/her live. You can't copy that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #8 August 19, 2002 QuoteWhile ill admit i have downloaded a few songs in the past, it is stealing and should be punnished as such Then what manner of punishment do you deem suitable for the crime you have committed. Specifically, how should you be punished? Or are you not willing to take responsibility for your "crime"!? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #9 August 19, 2002 QuoteThen, when they have an artist make it big, charge big bucks to see him/her live. You can't copy that. You're on the right track Bill, but missing one very important point. The Recording Industry won't make jack from live shows, and this is a very positive step. The Recording Industry was built on limited access technology. In recent years, their ability to corner the market on high quality recordings (and reproductions) has been taken away. As more and more Artists come to understand that they can produce their own recorded music, distribute it themselves (for no expense if they wish), and gain a true audience for their art (those who pay to see them actually perform, which is still the most lucrative endeavor for Artists), the middle-man (Recording Industry), will become obsolete! To paraphrase McCartney: the music will once again belong to the air it occupies...to those who perform it AND to those who enjoy it! The Recording "Industry" is seeing its last days! God Bless the information age! FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #10 August 20, 2002 >The Recording Industry won't make jack from live shows . . . The way the industry is set up now. As I said before, once someone realizes that the MP3 free-distribution channel is a resource to be exploited instead of an evil to be quashed, they will change how they market music and make billions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #11 August 20, 2002 well im still a minor so it doesnt matter mayby ppl should have to pay for the song, say a songs a dollar, you got 100 songs you have to pay $100 then that money goes to help pay for them to enforce it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
