rapper4mpi 0 #1 July 31, 2002 So folks, heading from Vermont to Skydive Chicago on Friday. For those that have jumped there or locals, what advice can you give me in regards to: What to bring, tips on how things work there, etc... Any info would be appreciated! -Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #2 July 31, 2002 Bring your skydiving gear, USPA license, reserve repack card, swim gear, and money. There's a Wal-Mart 2 miles away, so anything else you forget you can pick up locally. Belly fliers exit before freefliers. Stop by the Team Funnel corner and say hello. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #3 July 31, 2002 The word on Reserves for SummerFest: "Please be sure that your last reserve repack date is no earlier than April 14th. If the date is prior to April 14th your repack cycle will be due during the event week. To avoid this we will not tag systems with a prior date. " Meaning you will need a repack before they tag the rig if it's earlier than April 14th (mine was repacked April 16th, so I had a particular interest in what the cutoff date would be). Otherwise, like Kallend said, find the Team Funnel folk, bring beer - preferably import (Green bottles seem to go over the best with the pilot-folk) ;) If the winds are really honking out of the West any given day, having a cell phone wouldn't hurt in case you land on the east side of the Fox River (it's a healthy walk back - better to prog manifest into speed dial and call to let them know you're ok and exactly where to fetch ya rather than them having to go hunting up and down the road hoping you'll emerge from some farmers field). Word has it that if you do end up in a field with lots of horses, repack your main there - the horses appearantly get spooked by the russling of the canopy. But most importantly, find TF and bring beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 July 31, 2002 Just out of curiosity, does AT&T Wireless work out there? I recently went to an airport and the only service anyone could get was Verizon. AT&T wasn't working at all.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattb 0 #5 July 31, 2002 Unique question . . . new things DZs are rated include wireless internet access and cell coverage. Yes - ATT Wireless works. If you are coming from Chicago service will be sketchy between Morris and Ottawa as it alternates between Home & Roam. At the DZ my phone stays on roam and the cell phone tower can be seen from the airport so the signal is quite strong. QuoteJust out of curiosity, does AT&T Wireless work out there? I recently when to an airport and the only service anyone could get was Verison. AT&T wasn't working at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #6 July 31, 2002 Skydive Chicago has a "no swearing" policy. They also have a rule of "no offense", which means that anything goes until someone takes offense to it - at which point, it's against the rules. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 July 31, 2002 No shit -- really?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #8 July 31, 2002 It's the truth. If you're caught swearing, you'll get flashed the "peace" sign. As for no offense, these are skydivers we're talking about, so to my knowledge, the rule has never been invoked. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 July 31, 2002 Holy shit.... Well... someone better just follow me around next time I'm at SDC to be flashing me signs because I tend to be a little vocal sometimes... So.. if I find drugs offensive does that mean they are banned or is it more of a hear no evil see no evil thing at that point?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 July 31, 2002 Quote . . . you'll get flashed the "peace" sign. So what is THAT supposed to mean? Right now my head is exploding from this entire concept. I thought you were kidding. Seems somewhat juvenile to even suggest that adults should somehow curb their language in a completely adult environment. It's kinda like asking them to limit their anal emissions on the ride to altitude -- just not going to happen. Or is this policy in effect for the staff only? That actually kind of would make sense.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattwhoo 0 #11 July 31, 2002 QuoteSkydive Chicago has a "no swearing" policy. Hmmm think I need to cross this place off as a place to jump. I think I say fuck at least 40 to 50 times a day along with every other 4 letter word known to man. Matt Providing ingenious solutions to all of your nonexistent problems! (For a fee) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #12 July 31, 2002 QuoteSkydive Chicago has a "no swearing" policy. Criminy. I can never, ever, ever, ever, ever visit Skydive Chicago.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #13 August 1, 2002 As far as the no swearing, its more of a "movement" than a policy. People still swear, I rarely see the peace sign unless I'm flashing it to myself! The campground is big, tent camping is no problem but if you have an RV and need an electric hook up, check with manifest for availibility- they will assign you a slot and tell you where it is. And for you tenters, as a courtesy to the regulars, do not pitch your tent directly in front of or behind someone's trailer without permission. There is plenty of space for camping. There are bathrooms, showers and laundry facilities in the campground, plus plenty of port-o-potties all around. And for those of you who were there last year, I can tell you that the showers don't smell nearly as bad this year, HOWEVER, we do seem to have a short supply of hot water, so unless you are a super early bird, count on a luke warm shower! You should find more info at SDC's website! Hope to see some of you there! And everyone, please be safe! Boogies are fun, but they do pose extra risks. Let's be careful, look out for each other and have fun! maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouroboros 0 #14 August 1, 2002 wanna get on the skydive chicago website at summerfest? i'll be taking video and stills, posting them on the site daily. got some nifty video of your dive? i'll post that too. HECK ask around, i'll post anything. i got this great shot by the fox river of some naked elk hunting... love and bullets o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #15 August 1, 2002 QuoteSeems somewhat juvenile to even suggest that adults should somehow curb their language in a completely adult environment. Actually, the language itself is juvenile. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty liberal with the four-letter words myself, but I do have a wider vocabulary than that. I'm actually glad the "movement" exists since it pushes me to be better on the potty-mouth stuff. As for the adult environment - WRONG! There are lots of kids at SDC - so many that you might consider it a family drop zone. Jack, Victoria, Molly, Lawrencium, and the others don't need the negative influence. That's what schools are for. I may be way down south, but SDC is my home and I visit often, so I feel empowered to say that if someone's idea of fun is to get high, talk like a sailor, and run around looking for the next wet t-shirt contest, then maybe SDC isn't the place for them. That's just my opinion. You may ignore me as you see fit. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #16 August 1, 2002 So... SDC is trying to curb the foul language.. are they doing anything on the other things that I saw frequently when ever I was there? If not it seems like the priorities are a bit off...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #17 August 1, 2002 Phree, why don't you give it a rest? Your attacks against SDC are getting really old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzbum 0 #18 August 1, 2002 Phree- You sound very interested in cutting down SDC and it appears you have a great interest in the "drug" thing. Leads one to wonder.... Let it go man--- As for anyone who wants extra altitude at summerfest- the boobies always work, but if you are lacking in that area (meaning your a dude) I always appreciate a good Captains and Coke or an Amstel or a... I'll be flying the fast otter~ Chris StrengeIt's good to be the pilot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #19 August 1, 2002 Tigra... don't get me wrong... I think SDC has some great facilities, the training program seems to be outstanding for the most part and the instructors are world class. Its the policies that everyone keeps talking about seem really weird to me. They are saying they want to clean up the DZ and make it a family DZ, but then it ignores other issues. Last Summer fest I was camping and stepped into the woods and stumbled across a regulars stash. It was growing in nice potted pots and it was something that I hope to never see on a DZ again. If you want to make a place for a family... I'd think you would work on things that the law says are illegal then work towards the swearing... but thats just me...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #20 August 1, 2002 Quotedoes AT&T Wireless work out there? hihihihi... silly north americains...... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #21 August 1, 2002 THanks for all the info. See you all in a few days! -Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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goose491 0 #24 August 1, 2002 QuoteLast Summer fest I was camping and stepped into the woods and stumbled across a regulars........... I hope to never see on a DZ again. So.. if I find drugs offensive does that mean they are banned or is it more of a hear no evil see no evil thing at that point? Quote DUDE!!! SHhhhhhhhhhhhh! My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #25 August 1, 2002 QuoteNo shit -- really? Just have some cops onsite.... "So, What Happens When You Say '#@!!*!' to a Cop? Shira Abilevitz The National Law Journal 07-31-2002 "It's a crosswalk, asshole." With that remark, Pennsylvania college student Amy Johnston got herself arrested, and touched off a legal battle over free speech, unlawful arrest and the right to curse out a cop. Johnston is one plaintiff in a pair of lawsuits filed this month by the American Civil Liberties Foundation of Pennsylvania on behalf of people who were arrested for swearing at a police officer. The plaintiffs claim the arrests violate their free speech rights. They are asking for unspecified damages. Johnston and Lagrossa v. Homestead Boro, No. CA-02-1170, and Upshaw v. North Braddock Police Department, No. CA-02-1171 (W.D. Pa.). PITTSBURGH'S PROBLEM The ACLU gets about six complaints a year from people who have been arrested for foul language, and the problem is acute in Pittsburgh, according to Witold Walczak, director of the ACLU's Western Pennsylvania division. "These are all cases where the police have taken some kind of action against an individual out of anger and frustration," said Walczak, who represents the plaintiffs in the two suits. For Johnston, 27, the trouble began two years ago in the parking lot of a grocery store in Homestead, Pa. She and co-plaintiff Gregory Lagrosa, 29, were crossing the lot when a police officer, Frances Keyes, allegedly sped through a pedestrian crosswalk. Johnston called the officer an "asshole," and a confrontation erupted. Keyes arrested Johnston for disorderly conduct and Lagrosa for harassment. A judge later threw out the charges. Bernie Schneider of Pittsburgh's Brucker, Schneider & Porter, who represents the Homestead Borough Police Department in the case, could not be reached for comment. Under Pennsylvania's disorderly conduct statute, police can punish people for obscene language or gestures. But the plaintiffs claim the statute covers only language that fits the U.S. Supreme Court's definition of obscenity, which, according to Walczak, "really only applies to hardcore pornography. "We're trying to send a message to police departments that you need to recognize the limits of your authority, and that does not include playing Miss Manners and arresting people for naughty language," Walczak said. In the case of Erica Upshaw, 29, the off-color language slipped out in the course of a traffic stop. When she was pulled over for running a stop sign, she said, "I am having a bull---t day." The police officer placed her under arrest for disorderly conduct, but an appeals judge later found her not guilty. Upshaw, a bus driver, claims her First and 14th Amendment rights were violated by the arrest. Defense attorney John Bacharach of Pittsburgh's Bacharach and Klein, who represents the police department in the case, said it was premature to comment. This is not the first time Pennsylvania courts have examined a foul-language arrest. A federal court found Pennsylvania's disorderly conduct law vague in 1985, in the case of a teen-age girl arrested for calling a group of cops "god---n f--king pigs." Pringle v. Court of Common Pleas, Cumberland Cty., No. 85-5249 (3d Cir.). That case was decided on due process grounds and did not reach the First Amendment issue. According to Walczak, the disorderly conduct statute may in fact be constitutional. "It's just being applied in an unconstitutional fashion," he said. "The ACLU's goal and plaintiffs' goal is that other people will not have to suffer the humiliation that our folks went through. The three folks we have -- these are not your usual suspects. These are upstanding people," Walczak asserted, adding that a disorderly conduct charge can lead to 90 days in jail."it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
