Jessica 0 #26 August 1, 2002 QuoteOh look! Citation! [thump][thud][whack][whack][thud] Oh boy! I want to play! *looking around, unable to find a horse* *beating wildblue instead* [thump] [smack] girlish crying [whap]Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #27 August 1, 2002 QuoteOh look! Citation! [thump][thud][whack][whack][thud]Okay, I owe beer for taking two days to figure out what this means. A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #28 August 1, 2002 Quote...in a completely adult environment. Oh - and I thought we were talking about skydivers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #29 August 1, 2002 Now, now. My point was that skydiving by it's very nature is not something in which you'd be corrupting anyone else's children by giving an occasional "Him! Him!" chant on the way to altitude. Skydivers may be somewhat childish from time-to-time, but with very few exceptions are generally legal adults. Just out of curiosity, what would the MPAA rating be on the language at SDC? PG-13? R?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #30 August 1, 2002 QuoteLast Summer fest I was camping and stepped into the woods and stumbled across a regulars stash. It was growing in nice potted pots and it was something that I hope to never see on a DZ again. There's lots of stuff grown in the woods in Illinois, in corn fields, County Forest Preserves and State Parks even. The police have big fires to burn up what they find with some regularity. This is a society thing, not a DZ thing. Given Roger's history and the fact that he's under the microscope all the time, do you *really* see him condoning this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #31 August 1, 2002 SDC is NOT like being in church, Paul. I'd say that the language is not much different than I hear in the corridors here in college between classes. It's just that someone being really offensive or potty mouthed is generally asked to cool it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GrumpySmurf 0 #32 August 1, 2002 Yeah, they haven't run me off the DZ with my usage of such wonderful cultural expressions as 'bloody hell', 'lord t'underin' jezez' and 'I can guaren-gawd-damn-tee ya..' intermixed with the ocassional run of the mill Yank 4-letter explictatives. My personal take was that they just don't want regulars (especially anyone in a 'staff' t-shirt) yelling it across the hanger or landing area when they got families with kids milling about waiting for thier spouse/kid/relative to do thier first tandem. Good business sense if you ask me - jumpers might be thick skinned, but there is no guarentee the whuffo relatives of first timers will be the same, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildblue 7 #33 August 1, 2002 Necrohippoflagellation: The love of beating a dead horse.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #34 August 1, 2002 QuoteMy personal take was that they just don't want regulars (especially anyone in a 'staff' t-shirt) yelling it across the hanger or landing area when they got families with kids milling about waiting for thier spouse/kid/relative to do thier first tandem. Good business sense if you ask me - jumpers might be thick skinned, but there is no guarentee the whuffo relatives of first timers will be the same, though. And to me this seems reasonable. Like I said, a policy for staff would not only be reasonable, but not a bad idea for business. I would think that most reasonable people know there's a difference between when there are kids around and when there isn't.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #35 August 1, 2002 QuoteIt's just that someone being really offensive or potty mouthed is generally asked to cool it. Sounds fairly reasonable then.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #36 August 1, 2002 you know, I was actually looking forward to going to SDC for Nationals before I heard this. The only choice I would have in this matter is NOT to compete and that is NOT an option. THIS puts a different light on things. Something about the First Amendment rings in here... And before something is said about saying "shit" or "fuck" offending them, maybe someone wearing pink or drinking beer or wearing a mullet or having a screaming kid offends me. The staff policy is understandable....employers make the rules. By the way, is there a bar on site? I mean, is beer allowed on the dz at all? I'm just curious as to what else to expect at SDC during Nationals. this should be a hoot, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildblue 7 #37 August 1, 2002 arlo - did you read the rest of the thread? they're just trying to keep people from being overly-vulgar (ie shouting across the hanger) I don't think they're going to kick you off the dropzone for swearing. It sounds like more of a "positive peer-pressure" more than anything (which hopefully translates well to other areas) as far as beer - unless it's changed, yes, they do serve beer all day long at the 'deli' (none for you if you're jumping) and they have a pretty snazzy bar upstairs that I'm sure they'll open up.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #38 August 1, 2002 There is a NICE bar on the DZ and then the cafe was selling all types of beer last year. There was a fine selection of beer in the cafe if you want to call beer light for your self early.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamsville 0 #39 August 1, 2002 Relax. Everything's going to be fine. Yes, there is a bar and beer is sold and allowed on the DZ.I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #40 August 1, 2002 Yes, I read the rest of the thread. I think my point is missed. If i'm offended by someone's actions (i.e. a slobbering drunk), I can choose to ignore it or go somewhere else. Who defines "overly vulgar"? I totally see what you're trying to say, and all I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't be stated as a "dz policy" if it's just a "suggested behavior." I accept people for who they are and I do not try to invoke peer pressure-positive, negative, or otherwise- to get people to conform to my way of thinking or my behavior patterns (thank god for that). That's what makes us individuals. blues, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #41 August 1, 2002 QuoteI do not try to invoke peer pressure-positive, negative, or otherwise- to get people to conform to my way of thinking or my behavior patterns Hmmm...well...I think a little peer pressure is good sometimes. Like last weekend when someone put on "Full Metal Jacket" in the middle of the day, with numerous tandem students, and children in the hangar. One of the DZ staff politely asked if they could put something else on due to the language. I didn't see a problem with that at all. We have to remember that even though the DZ is our place to have fun, it's also a place of business. Whether we like it or not we need to display some more reserved behavior when the "General Public" is around. Now...after the beer light comes on....most bets are off!!! Also, if it's a safety hazard...such as drinking or using drugs during the day once again....I don't see a problem with some peer pressure. It doesn't have to be rude and most of the time just a slight mention of the subject to the person gets the job done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GrumpySmurf 0 #42 August 1, 2002 Aye, I would agree with you 100% on that one - though FMJ does kick ass "Me so horny! Me love you long time!" - classic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #43 August 1, 2002 *** I believe we have different definitions of "peer pressure." Having DZ staff ask to change the movie seems to me to be a suggestion. Peer pressure would be "go ahead...everyone else is having one more beer" or "35 sq ft less won't make that much of a difference...what are you afraid of?" Do you see what i'm getting at here? I said I didn't try invoking peer pressure....I didn't say I wouldn't give my opinion. If someone is being an idiot (which is, in most cases, a subjective thing), I will tell them that I think they're doing something idiotic in no uncertain terms....and you're right, it doesn't have to be rude. But I will not PRESSURE them to quit being an idiot...I would just try to INFORM them of the consequences of their actions. If they continue to do things that are not in his/her best interest, then he/she is responsible for his/her own actions. Being able to play devil's advocate is a good thing. I think that it's strictly a matter of semantics in this case... blues, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #44 August 2, 2002 Quote'lord t'underin' jezez' You ARE a Newfie! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rachill 0 #45 August 2, 2002 Well, I can't make it to Summer Fest. But everyone should enjoy Spacelands Super Otter. It is leaving today to head up there. It's the one with Blue bottom, white top and a red stripe down the middle.! Enjoy! Oh, and it should be ok, because it doesn't use curse words! BooYa#1 GR#50 You might be a skydiver if... Your having sex and she whispers in your ear "I've never done this before" and you yell out "Case of Beer" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbrian 0 #46 August 2, 2002 Well, I don't know about red/white/blue otters.... last year we had one and we couldn't fly it. As I recall, it seems someone was a little lacking in the service dept and killed the fuel pumps. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GrumpySmurf 0 #47 August 2, 2002 Wha' gave ya dat ide'r by'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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quade 4 #29 August 1, 2002 Now, now. My point was that skydiving by it's very nature is not something in which you'd be corrupting anyone else's children by giving an occasional "Him! Him!" chant on the way to altitude. Skydivers may be somewhat childish from time-to-time, but with very few exceptions are generally legal adults. Just out of curiosity, what would the MPAA rating be on the language at SDC? PG-13? R?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #30 August 1, 2002 QuoteLast Summer fest I was camping and stepped into the woods and stumbled across a regulars stash. It was growing in nice potted pots and it was something that I hope to never see on a DZ again. There's lots of stuff grown in the woods in Illinois, in corn fields, County Forest Preserves and State Parks even. The police have big fires to burn up what they find with some regularity. This is a society thing, not a DZ thing. Given Roger's history and the fact that he's under the microscope all the time, do you *really* see him condoning this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #31 August 1, 2002 SDC is NOT like being in church, Paul. I'd say that the language is not much different than I hear in the corridors here in college between classes. It's just that someone being really offensive or potty mouthed is generally asked to cool it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #32 August 1, 2002 Yeah, they haven't run me off the DZ with my usage of such wonderful cultural expressions as 'bloody hell', 'lord t'underin' jezez' and 'I can guaren-gawd-damn-tee ya..' intermixed with the ocassional run of the mill Yank 4-letter explictatives. My personal take was that they just don't want regulars (especially anyone in a 'staff' t-shirt) yelling it across the hanger or landing area when they got families with kids milling about waiting for thier spouse/kid/relative to do thier first tandem. Good business sense if you ask me - jumpers might be thick skinned, but there is no guarentee the whuffo relatives of first timers will be the same, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #33 August 1, 2002 Necrohippoflagellation: The love of beating a dead horse.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 August 1, 2002 QuoteMy personal take was that they just don't want regulars (especially anyone in a 'staff' t-shirt) yelling it across the hanger or landing area when they got families with kids milling about waiting for thier spouse/kid/relative to do thier first tandem. Good business sense if you ask me - jumpers might be thick skinned, but there is no guarentee the whuffo relatives of first timers will be the same, though. And to me this seems reasonable. Like I said, a policy for staff would not only be reasonable, but not a bad idea for business. I would think that most reasonable people know there's a difference between when there are kids around and when there isn't.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 August 1, 2002 QuoteIt's just that someone being really offensive or potty mouthed is generally asked to cool it. Sounds fairly reasonable then.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #36 August 1, 2002 you know, I was actually looking forward to going to SDC for Nationals before I heard this. The only choice I would have in this matter is NOT to compete and that is NOT an option. THIS puts a different light on things. Something about the First Amendment rings in here... And before something is said about saying "shit" or "fuck" offending them, maybe someone wearing pink or drinking beer or wearing a mullet or having a screaming kid offends me. The staff policy is understandable....employers make the rules. By the way, is there a bar on site? I mean, is beer allowed on the dz at all? I'm just curious as to what else to expect at SDC during Nationals. this should be a hoot, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #37 August 1, 2002 arlo - did you read the rest of the thread? they're just trying to keep people from being overly-vulgar (ie shouting across the hanger) I don't think they're going to kick you off the dropzone for swearing. It sounds like more of a "positive peer-pressure" more than anything (which hopefully translates well to other areas) as far as beer - unless it's changed, yes, they do serve beer all day long at the 'deli' (none for you if you're jumping) and they have a pretty snazzy bar upstairs that I'm sure they'll open up.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #38 August 1, 2002 There is a NICE bar on the DZ and then the cafe was selling all types of beer last year. There was a fine selection of beer in the cafe if you want to call beer light for your self early.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #39 August 1, 2002 Relax. Everything's going to be fine. Yes, there is a bar and beer is sold and allowed on the DZ.I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #40 August 1, 2002 Yes, I read the rest of the thread. I think my point is missed. If i'm offended by someone's actions (i.e. a slobbering drunk), I can choose to ignore it or go somewhere else. Who defines "overly vulgar"? I totally see what you're trying to say, and all I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't be stated as a "dz policy" if it's just a "suggested behavior." I accept people for who they are and I do not try to invoke peer pressure-positive, negative, or otherwise- to get people to conform to my way of thinking or my behavior patterns (thank god for that). That's what makes us individuals. blues, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #41 August 1, 2002 QuoteI do not try to invoke peer pressure-positive, negative, or otherwise- to get people to conform to my way of thinking or my behavior patterns Hmmm...well...I think a little peer pressure is good sometimes. Like last weekend when someone put on "Full Metal Jacket" in the middle of the day, with numerous tandem students, and children in the hangar. One of the DZ staff politely asked if they could put something else on due to the language. I didn't see a problem with that at all. We have to remember that even though the DZ is our place to have fun, it's also a place of business. Whether we like it or not we need to display some more reserved behavior when the "General Public" is around. Now...after the beer light comes on....most bets are off!!! Also, if it's a safety hazard...such as drinking or using drugs during the day once again....I don't see a problem with some peer pressure. It doesn't have to be rude and most of the time just a slight mention of the subject to the person gets the job done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #42 August 1, 2002 Aye, I would agree with you 100% on that one - though FMJ does kick ass "Me so horny! Me love you long time!" - classic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #43 August 1, 2002 *** I believe we have different definitions of "peer pressure." Having DZ staff ask to change the movie seems to me to be a suggestion. Peer pressure would be "go ahead...everyone else is having one more beer" or "35 sq ft less won't make that much of a difference...what are you afraid of?" Do you see what i'm getting at here? I said I didn't try invoking peer pressure....I didn't say I wouldn't give my opinion. If someone is being an idiot (which is, in most cases, a subjective thing), I will tell them that I think they're doing something idiotic in no uncertain terms....and you're right, it doesn't have to be rude. But I will not PRESSURE them to quit being an idiot...I would just try to INFORM them of the consequences of their actions. If they continue to do things that are not in his/her best interest, then he/she is responsible for his/her own actions. Being able to play devil's advocate is a good thing. I think that it's strictly a matter of semantics in this case... blues, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #44 August 2, 2002 Quote'lord t'underin' jezez' You ARE a Newfie! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rachill 0 #45 August 2, 2002 Well, I can't make it to Summer Fest. But everyone should enjoy Spacelands Super Otter. It is leaving today to head up there. It's the one with Blue bottom, white top and a red stripe down the middle.! Enjoy! Oh, and it should be ok, because it doesn't use curse words! BooYa#1 GR#50 You might be a skydiver if... Your having sex and she whispers in your ear "I've never done this before" and you yell out "Case of Beer" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #46 August 2, 2002 Well, I don't know about red/white/blue otters.... last year we had one and we couldn't fly it. As I recall, it seems someone was a little lacking in the service dept and killed the fuel pumps. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #47 August 2, 2002 Wha' gave ya dat ide'r by'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
