DivaSkyChick 0 #1 July 26, 2002 Okay, I just got the word that an advanced model wind tunnel is going up adjacent to Elsinore. It's supposed to be 15 feet in diameter and produce speeds over 160mph!!!! Now I already heard about the one going up at Perris - but this is another company altogether. My "source" says this is confirmed! YEAH BABY!!!!! --- www.facebook.com/mandyhamptonfitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 July 26, 2002 What other company could this possibly be? One we've never heard of before in the U.S.?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 July 26, 2002 I'm failing to see how SoCal could support 2 wind tunnels with in half an hour of each other....Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #4 July 26, 2002 yes, its a NJ jumper putting it up out there, or so my sources tell me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivaSkyChick 0 #5 July 26, 2002 Has Perris broken ground on theirs yet? --- www.facebook.com/mandyhamptonfitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danhole 0 #6 July 26, 2002 the guy who claims to be building a wind tunnel at elsinore is full of sh*t. For YEARS we heard he was going to build one in New Jersey. Don't hold your breath. but what do i know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiventom 0 #7 July 26, 2002 QuoteI'm failing to see how SoCal could support 2 wind tunnels with in half an hour of each other.... It's easy... the one at ELSINORE will be full because of all the nice people there.. (especially one belly fly'n camera guy) "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana" -Groucho Marx- "Tom flies like a rock" -Tom Carson- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 July 26, 2002 Uh? What does a 4-way camera flyer have to gain from having a wind tunnel anywhere near him?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
effinjump 0 #9 July 26, 2002 they just put a giant canister around one of the dust devils, right?Rob Tonnesen "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom" -Anais Nin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiventom 0 #10 July 26, 2002 Quotethey just put a giant canister around one of the dust devils, right? Now, that's an idea... "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana" -Groucho Marx- "Tom flies like a rock" -Tom Carson- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #11 July 26, 2002 Yep, the Shark swimmin in da tunnel!!! SoCal supports 2 DZs, why not 2 tunnels? You eastcoasters are just jealous! With 2 tunnels being announced hopefully at least one can get built. Doesn't really matter where, either. But I do want it at Elsinore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #12 July 26, 2002 Quotethey just put a giant canister around one of the dust devils, right? i already tested the prototype last month... but i was "under" canopy. (at least part of the ride in/on the dust devil.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #13 July 26, 2002 do you guys realize how this would help AFF training?! "I have this weird turn i can't stop" "well lets get a couple mins in the tunnel and figure it out"I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #14 July 26, 2002 Quotedo you guys realize how this would help AFF training?! yeah, when I let go they will fly through the roof instead of cork or backslide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #15 July 26, 2002 You learn more on an AFF then freefall. Like Exiting, canopy control, landing, and confidence that the Tunnel will never teach. Tunnels are great to supplement training, but should never be used in place of it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #16 July 26, 2002 QuoteYou learn more on an AFF then freefall. Like Exiting, canopy control, landing, and confidence that the Tunnel will never teach. Tunnels are great to supplement training, but should never be used in place of it. don't forget the EXIT. difficult, if not impossible in the tunnel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #17 July 26, 2002 I wasn't saying to replace freefall with a tunnel. I was just saying that if someone needs to work on somthing for more than 60 secs at a time, that the tunnel will help them get there body position right.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #18 July 27, 2002 All I can say is that it is "looking" better for a tunnel at Elsinore. Did a hop n pop after work and before Corona there and became nosey. You can guess either way. I am more confident now. Viking, the tunnel can only help you. Your working time is more than doubled. ie. more time to correct your fuck ups. Hopefully you don't acquire any bad habits in there. One skysurfer I know learned in one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites effinjump 0 #19 July 28, 2002 that's SO cool! ummm..what's a wind tunnel? already miss you more than you could imagine.Rob Tonnesen "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom" -Anais Nin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefalle 0 #20 July 28, 2002 Ive been to the Skyventure Tunnel in Orlando, I had a good time and it helped alot with my side slides. My girlfirend went to the same tunnel before she went to AFF she did a 15 min coach package and subsequently finished AFF in 6 jumps. I thought that was pretty impressive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #21 July 28, 2002 QuoteQuotethey just put a giant canister around one of the dust devils, right? i already tested the prototype last month... but i was "under" canopy. (at least part of the ride in/on the dust devil.) Three of those on the 'Derrick-Ways' also got to test this new Elsinore wind tunnel on Saturday! No dust kicked up, just the swirley-bird silently hovering over the landing area. Thankful nobody was hurt! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fruce 0 #22 August 1, 2002 ***BW0273 AUG 01,2002 9:11 PACIFIC 12:11 EASTERN ( SW)(CA-MARISSA-PARTNERS) Marissa Partners, LLC Announces Its Plan to Open the Tunnel VS 1, The World's Most Advanced Design Recreational Indoor Skydiving Facility in Lake Elsinore Sports Editors/Skydiving Writers & Columnists LAKE ELSINORE, Calif.--(BW SportsWire)--Aug. 1, 2002-- Marissa Partners, LLC and Aero Systems Engineering today announced their plan to open the world's most advanced design indoor skydiving facility. Located in scenic Lake Elsinore, the state-of-the-art complex will be the widest diameter commercial facility of its kind at 14 ft. and capable of producing wind speeds in excess of 150 mph. The Tunnel VS 1(TM) is a realistic skydiving simulation experience. Unlike some older technology wind tunnels that exist today, The Tunnel VS 1(TM) provides participants with the actual sensation of flying through the air just like a real skydive from a plane. "Our indoor skydiving facility will allow people of all ages to come in and experience the thrill of an actual skydive in a safe and controlled environment while also serving the training needs of recreational, professional and military skydivers throughout the world," said Bruce Federici, a managing partner for the firm. "Think of all of those people who would never jump out of a perfectly good airplane in order to skydive, but would love to experience first hand what it is like to be free to fly!" Indoor skydiving facilities have existed for some time for use by both the military and skydiving markets. Only recently have they begun to catch on as an affordable source of family recreation and entertainment. "The City of Lake Elsinore is a recreation and tourism oriented community that already has a strong tie to skydiving," said Marlene Best, assistant city manager. "A facility like this would be a great addition, and create synergy with the attractions already here," she added. Aero Systems Engineering Inc.'s President, Chuck Loux, said, "We are enthusiastic about this opportunity to work with Marissa Partners, LLC in providing this state-of-the-art wind tunnel." Aero Systems Engineering has more than 50 years of wind tunnel experience, including the successful Matos Military Freefall Training Facility, provided to the US Army at Fort Bragg, N.C. Aero Systems Engineering provides wind tunnels and jet engine test cells worldwide. Today's announcement is the first step in a new era for the entire skydiving industry and represents a major shift toward more family-based recreation. About Aero Systems Engineering ASE designs and supplies wind tunnels for testing in all speed regimes: low speed, subsonic, transonic, supersonic, and hypersonic. The company's primary wind tunnel business areas include turnkey projects (new facilities and facility upgrades), vertical wind tunnels/free fall simulators, automotive climatic wind tunnels, engine/rocket altitude test facilities, high temperature heaters, and design of all types of wind tunnels and associated systems and components. About Marissa Partners, LLC Marissa Partners is an investment holding company. The company's primary business is the development and operation of Vertical Wind Tunnels "The Tunnel VS 1(TM)" for recreational use. The company's focus is to create and market an exciting new form of recreational entertainment for the enjoyment of consumers and to provide a realistic skydiving simulator for skydiver training. --30--KT/np* JE/np CONTACT: Marissa Partners LLC Bruce Federici, 909/615-3052 TheTunnelVS1@aol.com or Aero Systems Engineering Inc. Don Kamis, 651/227-7515 ase@aerosysengr.com KEYWORD: CALIFORNIA INDUSTRY KEYWORD: ADVERTISING/MARKETING ENTERTAINMENT SPORTS SOURCE: Marissa Partners LLC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GiaKrembs 0 #23 August 1, 2002 YEAH for windtunnel - YEAH for Elsinore - WOOOHOO for Bruce!!!! Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SAMPLEKSample 0 #24 August 2, 2002 That guy is so not full of shit! Sorry...its in Elsinore...for sure...- cant wait!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #25 August 2, 2002 QuoteThat guy is so not full of shit! Sorry...its in Elsinore...for sure... he did say New Joysey, didn't he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Shark 0 #12 July 26, 2002 Quotethey just put a giant canister around one of the dust devils, right? i already tested the prototype last month... but i was "under" canopy. (at least part of the ride in/on the dust devil.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #13 July 26, 2002 do you guys realize how this would help AFF training?! "I have this weird turn i can't stop" "well lets get a couple mins in the tunnel and figure it out"I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #14 July 26, 2002 Quotedo you guys realize how this would help AFF training?! yeah, when I let go they will fly through the roof instead of cork or backslide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 July 26, 2002 You learn more on an AFF then freefall. Like Exiting, canopy control, landing, and confidence that the Tunnel will never teach. Tunnels are great to supplement training, but should never be used in place of it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #16 July 26, 2002 QuoteYou learn more on an AFF then freefall. Like Exiting, canopy control, landing, and confidence that the Tunnel will never teach. Tunnels are great to supplement training, but should never be used in place of it. don't forget the EXIT. difficult, if not impossible in the tunnel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #17 July 26, 2002 I wasn't saying to replace freefall with a tunnel. I was just saying that if someone needs to work on somthing for more than 60 secs at a time, that the tunnel will help them get there body position right.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #18 July 27, 2002 All I can say is that it is "looking" better for a tunnel at Elsinore. Did a hop n pop after work and before Corona there and became nosey. You can guess either way. I am more confident now. Viking, the tunnel can only help you. Your working time is more than doubled. ie. more time to correct your fuck ups. Hopefully you don't acquire any bad habits in there. One skysurfer I know learned in one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
effinjump 0 #19 July 28, 2002 that's SO cool! ummm..what's a wind tunnel? already miss you more than you could imagine.Rob Tonnesen "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom" -Anais Nin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #20 July 28, 2002 Ive been to the Skyventure Tunnel in Orlando, I had a good time and it helped alot with my side slides. My girlfirend went to the same tunnel before she went to AFF she did a 15 min coach package and subsequently finished AFF in 6 jumps. I thought that was pretty impressive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #21 July 28, 2002 QuoteQuotethey just put a giant canister around one of the dust devils, right? i already tested the prototype last month... but i was "under" canopy. (at least part of the ride in/on the dust devil.) Three of those on the 'Derrick-Ways' also got to test this new Elsinore wind tunnel on Saturday! No dust kicked up, just the swirley-bird silently hovering over the landing area. Thankful nobody was hurt! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fruce 0 #22 August 1, 2002 ***BW0273 AUG 01,2002 9:11 PACIFIC 12:11 EASTERN ( SW)(CA-MARISSA-PARTNERS) Marissa Partners, LLC Announces Its Plan to Open the Tunnel VS 1, The World's Most Advanced Design Recreational Indoor Skydiving Facility in Lake Elsinore Sports Editors/Skydiving Writers & Columnists LAKE ELSINORE, Calif.--(BW SportsWire)--Aug. 1, 2002-- Marissa Partners, LLC and Aero Systems Engineering today announced their plan to open the world's most advanced design indoor skydiving facility. Located in scenic Lake Elsinore, the state-of-the-art complex will be the widest diameter commercial facility of its kind at 14 ft. and capable of producing wind speeds in excess of 150 mph. The Tunnel VS 1(TM) is a realistic skydiving simulation experience. Unlike some older technology wind tunnels that exist today, The Tunnel VS 1(TM) provides participants with the actual sensation of flying through the air just like a real skydive from a plane. "Our indoor skydiving facility will allow people of all ages to come in and experience the thrill of an actual skydive in a safe and controlled environment while also serving the training needs of recreational, professional and military skydivers throughout the world," said Bruce Federici, a managing partner for the firm. "Think of all of those people who would never jump out of a perfectly good airplane in order to skydive, but would love to experience first hand what it is like to be free to fly!" Indoor skydiving facilities have existed for some time for use by both the military and skydiving markets. Only recently have they begun to catch on as an affordable source of family recreation and entertainment. "The City of Lake Elsinore is a recreation and tourism oriented community that already has a strong tie to skydiving," said Marlene Best, assistant city manager. "A facility like this would be a great addition, and create synergy with the attractions already here," she added. Aero Systems Engineering Inc.'s President, Chuck Loux, said, "We are enthusiastic about this opportunity to work with Marissa Partners, LLC in providing this state-of-the-art wind tunnel." Aero Systems Engineering has more than 50 years of wind tunnel experience, including the successful Matos Military Freefall Training Facility, provided to the US Army at Fort Bragg, N.C. Aero Systems Engineering provides wind tunnels and jet engine test cells worldwide. Today's announcement is the first step in a new era for the entire skydiving industry and represents a major shift toward more family-based recreation. About Aero Systems Engineering ASE designs and supplies wind tunnels for testing in all speed regimes: low speed, subsonic, transonic, supersonic, and hypersonic. The company's primary wind tunnel business areas include turnkey projects (new facilities and facility upgrades), vertical wind tunnels/free fall simulators, automotive climatic wind tunnels, engine/rocket altitude test facilities, high temperature heaters, and design of all types of wind tunnels and associated systems and components. About Marissa Partners, LLC Marissa Partners is an investment holding company. The company's primary business is the development and operation of Vertical Wind Tunnels "The Tunnel VS 1(TM)" for recreational use. The company's focus is to create and market an exciting new form of recreational entertainment for the enjoyment of consumers and to provide a realistic skydiving simulator for skydiver training. --30--KT/np* JE/np CONTACT: Marissa Partners LLC Bruce Federici, 909/615-3052 TheTunnelVS1@aol.com or Aero Systems Engineering Inc. Don Kamis, 651/227-7515 ase@aerosysengr.com KEYWORD: CALIFORNIA INDUSTRY KEYWORD: ADVERTISING/MARKETING ENTERTAINMENT SPORTS SOURCE: Marissa Partners LLC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiaKrembs 0 #23 August 1, 2002 YEAH for windtunnel - YEAH for Elsinore - WOOOHOO for Bruce!!!! Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAMPLEKSample 0 #24 August 2, 2002 That guy is so not full of shit! Sorry...its in Elsinore...for sure...- cant wait!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #25 August 2, 2002 QuoteThat guy is so not full of shit! Sorry...its in Elsinore...for sure... he did say New Joysey, didn't he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
