Enrique 0 #1 July 24, 2002 Does anyone have an idea why therre is such a high divorce rate among skydivers? It seems to me that 99% of the skydivers I know have been divorced at least once. The remaining 1% has not yet realized they are married. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #2 July 24, 2002 You are kidding right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #3 July 24, 2002 No I'm not. Really, most of the skydivers I know in Southern California have been divorced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #4 July 24, 2002 Um I guess I should have laced that with a bit more sarcasm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymut 0 #5 July 24, 2002 Marriage is difficult, even if you don't have any 'other passions' in your life. I was skydiving before I got married (been married 3 + years), and I married a complete whuffo. Our first year of marriage was rough, especially when it came to skydiving. I had to learn to understand my wife's concerns and fears, and guess what...I had to meet her in the middle (that's part of marriage, right?). I have found that the more I work at understanding her and her needs, the more she does the same for me. I go skydiving now a LOT more now than I did that first year I was married, that I fought with her about letting me go. I don't go quite as often as I like, but I go more than I need ($$$). But, I love my wife, and it's worth it. Doesn't really answer your question, but I think there is some insight. Matt A well-informed person is somebody who has the same views and opinions as yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #6 July 24, 2002 Quote...I had to meet her in the middle *** Ditto. I am not married, but my girlfriend is a complete whuffo, too, and I too had to meet her in the middle. In addition, she is not used to the kind of fun you gringos have (i.e., mooning the pilot during a beautiful sunset fly-by; or getting extra-altitude by merely flashing the pilot). Mexicans are supposed to be a little bit more "conservative" (whatever that means). But I guess you are on the right track. Cielos azules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #7 July 24, 2002 There's an old saying... I forget exactly how it goes, but it's something along the lines of "Skydiving ruins marriages, marriage ruins skydivers." I don't know why, but I've seen it happen. Repeatedly. A jumper marries a whuffo and before long the gear is up for sale. A married person starts jumping without their spouse and before long the divorce is in process (or the gear is up for sale). Doesn't seem to matter if the jumper is male or female either. It takes a very strong relationship to stick together when one person is addicted to freefall and the other can't understand why all that money and time is spent at the dz. Considering that most jumpers are big on instant gratification and are at least somewhat selfish... it doesn't surprise me at all. Which is why I don't even want to date a whuffo, much less marry one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jncoughlin 0 #8 July 24, 2002 I'm a newbie, just off AFF and I turned 50 last year. My wife thought skydiving was merely a midlife crisis. Now I'm in WHUFFO hell as I try to constantly explain it to her. Q: What happens if the parachute won't open? A: We have another one. Q; Suppose you forget to pull the thingie? a: (I decide not to delve into the topic of altitude awareness). We have a computer that opens it for us. Q: Suppose both parachites fail? A: (I decide not to admit that it's not your day that day). I explian the statistics and compare those to the more mundane risks that she experiences every day such as driving or commercial flying. Q: You spend way too much time thinking about skydiving, reading about skydiving, watching skydiving videos, etc. You'd rather be skydiving than be with me!!! A: How about those Red Sox today!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #9 July 24, 2002 I dunno.Ahh, sounds dumb.... Anyway, I'm gonna have another Corona. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymedic 0 #10 July 24, 2002 Well you can add me to the I started skydiving she was OK with it....I started base jumping she filed for divorce...it sucked before that...but oh well...and now I just got the 7,000+ settlement bill today.....talk about an OUCH....life sucks right now.....I knew I shouldn't of married her...when her sister and brother both told me the night before the wedding...."you have NO idea what your getting into".... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites moodyskydiver 0 #11 July 24, 2002 Yeah, I was engaged to a skydiver. He introduced me to the sport, I loved it and I'm now addicted to it. But he left me anyway because he didnt think he was getting to jump as much with me as without me(even though every weekend was spent with me readin a book at the dz while he jumped.)It really sucked,and I'm still trying to recover from it. But I'm in love with the sport, so oh well! Now I'm a single female skydiver...all of which are good things! lol "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #12 July 24, 2002 Quote"Skydiving ruins marriages, marriage ruins skydivers." Skydiving doesn't ruin marriages. If a couple get divorced "because of skydiving" then there were other problems with the stability of the relationship in the first place. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #13 July 24, 2002 QuoteSkydiving doesn't ruin marriages. Just relating what was told to me by people who've been jumping a lot longer than I have, and also relating what I've seen in the past 12 years... Sure there may have been other problems in the relationships, but in most cases skydiving is what pushed them over the edge. And I have known people who've had excellent relationships, but (by the admission of both people) those relationships ended when one of the two started jumping, and the jumping is what did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gale 0 #14 July 24, 2002 I just don't get it personally. I thought couples were supposed to have seperate lives, as well as together lives. I guess I could see myself spending a moderate amount of time at a dz so I could spend more time with someone else. But if you make skydiving a priority over EVERYTHING else then it's definately not going to work. There are some well balanced guys at my dz with wives and kids. True, they don't hang out as much as some of the other skydivers, but I would say they seem happeir overall. Balance. (maybe that's not a word that skydivers use ) GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumperpaula 0 #15 July 24, 2002 Quote 2 girlfriends (freeflier/rw type), 2 drinks (beer/tequila), Uh, 2.... Ahh, sounds dumb.... Anyway, I'm gonna have another Corona. That two girlfriends thing DID NOT go un-noticed How do you jump them both? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #16 July 24, 2002 Well, the RW girl is the one you call when you want dinner cooked or a nice quiet night... The FF girl is the one who likes to go out and tear the town down, party till neither of you can stand and have long nights of passionate sex... So you see, it balances...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumperpaula 0 #17 July 24, 2002 QuoteThe FF girl is the one who likes to go out and tear the town down, party till neither of you can stand and have long nights of passionate sex... No offense, Dave but you are completely full of shit. Do you see any Freefly girls posting their tits, doing spankings, naked beacon rides or Naked loads? Name me one - wild and crash freefly girl I say they are all talk and no action . Prove me wrong! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #18 July 24, 2002 Do you know Carrol? I'm sure you do...there's one. hehe (man is it cold in here when the wrath of Paula comes down...)--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #19 July 24, 2002 QuoteI dunno. Take up BASE. One parachute. No girlfriend. More than two drinks. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cbain 0 #20 July 24, 2002 I don't know. I got divorced and then started skydiving. Now, I don't think I could even date a whuffo. For one I'm either at work or at the dz, I don't have time for all that mushy relationship stuff, I'm too busy having fun. Not to mention the whole $$ factor. I have another question though, maybe it's just the dz here but have you guys ever noticed how many male skydivers have whuffo girlfriends/wives compared to female skydivers having whuffo boyfriends/husbands? Like someone said above (sorry can't remember who) I'm a young single female skydiver, it's all good. Christina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cbain 0 #21 July 24, 2002 Paula, In Dallas this weekend, I don't know their names but there were a couple ffly girls doing naked jumps and flashing the pilot. But they were doing RW on some of the big ways too so I don't know if that counts. Of course you know, I could always prove you wrong too. I don't think it matters whether its RW or Ffly, skydiving chics rock! Christina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #22 July 24, 2002 QuoteNo offense, Dave but you are completely full of shit. I'm with ya paula, RW girls all the way. But, if I can borrow from BillVon.... Girls who go both ways... like Country AND Western, Freeflying AND RW, now THAT's something to celebrate. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #23 July 24, 2002 I'll actually respond to this one seriously... I'm married, and a skydiver. It can be rough. I was a paratrooper in the Army before I got married, and I told my wife on our first date that I wanted to skydive again. Fast-forward 2 years, and we are married. I surprised her with a trip to the DZ. I did my AFF 1, and she did a tandem. She said she liked it (especially the canopy time), but has no desire to go through AFF. So she isn't a total whuffo. It gets difficult when I want to go to the DZ and she wants me to do other things. So we compromise. That seems to be something most skydivers have trouble with. I don't get to jump as much as I want, but she is gradually growing in her acceptance that this is just something I do. I've also educated her on all the safety issues. She still gets nervous, but she understands that I do everything I can to be a safe jumper in an admittedly dangerous sport. Now, I let her know about jump trips way in advance, so she can plan something to do without me. When I go to the DZ, it is often a day trip. When I go overnight, I'm not big into the party scene. I won't be hooking up with random people. I don't want to get so hungover that my next jump day is crap. I go to jump, and I on my precious jump trips, I don't want anything to interfere with that. I agree with what someone else said, that skydiving doesn't make or break a relationship. It definitely adds stress, but if the relationship is healthy, it can handle it. The whole "healthy relationship" thing is the hard part. If jumping quickly breaks a marriage, then it was really broken before. Just my $.02. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #24 July 24, 2002 Pretty simple really....the Divorce rate averages 50% anyway right? Well....now lets throw in a guy that likes to skydive. Normally has type A personality. Skydiving can be obsessive anyway but this guy gets REALLY sucked in. He parties at the DZ so no matter what a woman will be either jealous because he is having a great time without her or suspect he is cheating or most likely both. Whether he is really doing anything or not. It's just the way women are. So....since he is off having fun without her it tends to drive a wedge between them. Plus....chics are just nuts anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #25 July 24, 2002 Quote No offense, Dave but you are completely full of shit. Do you see any Freefly girls posting their tits, doing spankings, naked beacon rides or Naked loads? Did someone say spankings?????? I'm with Paula on this one. If you wanna girl to "cook you dinner", you may wanna check out the girls lookin to get their M.R.S. degrees!!!! But, if you really want me to "cook you dinner", I'll be more than happy to buy a case......since we all know that beer has food value. (Don't tell Sunshine I said so.....but she is a FF girl who is ALL talk and NO action!!!!)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 1 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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skybytch 273 #7 July 24, 2002 There's an old saying... I forget exactly how it goes, but it's something along the lines of "Skydiving ruins marriages, marriage ruins skydivers." I don't know why, but I've seen it happen. Repeatedly. A jumper marries a whuffo and before long the gear is up for sale. A married person starts jumping without their spouse and before long the divorce is in process (or the gear is up for sale). Doesn't seem to matter if the jumper is male or female either. It takes a very strong relationship to stick together when one person is addicted to freefall and the other can't understand why all that money and time is spent at the dz. Considering that most jumpers are big on instant gratification and are at least somewhat selfish... it doesn't surprise me at all. Which is why I don't even want to date a whuffo, much less marry one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jncoughlin 0 #8 July 24, 2002 I'm a newbie, just off AFF and I turned 50 last year. My wife thought skydiving was merely a midlife crisis. Now I'm in WHUFFO hell as I try to constantly explain it to her. Q: What happens if the parachute won't open? A: We have another one. Q; Suppose you forget to pull the thingie? a: (I decide not to delve into the topic of altitude awareness). We have a computer that opens it for us. Q: Suppose both parachites fail? A: (I decide not to admit that it's not your day that day). I explian the statistics and compare those to the more mundane risks that she experiences every day such as driving or commercial flying. Q: You spend way too much time thinking about skydiving, reading about skydiving, watching skydiving videos, etc. You'd rather be skydiving than be with me!!! A: How about those Red Sox today!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #9 July 24, 2002 I dunno.Ahh, sounds dumb.... Anyway, I'm gonna have another Corona. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #10 July 24, 2002 Well you can add me to the I started skydiving she was OK with it....I started base jumping she filed for divorce...it sucked before that...but oh well...and now I just got the 7,000+ settlement bill today.....talk about an OUCH....life sucks right now.....I knew I shouldn't of married her...when her sister and brother both told me the night before the wedding...."you have NO idea what your getting into".... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #11 July 24, 2002 Yeah, I was engaged to a skydiver. He introduced me to the sport, I loved it and I'm now addicted to it. But he left me anyway because he didnt think he was getting to jump as much with me as without me(even though every weekend was spent with me readin a book at the dz while he jumped.)It really sucked,and I'm still trying to recover from it. But I'm in love with the sport, so oh well! Now I'm a single female skydiver...all of which are good things! lol "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #12 July 24, 2002 Quote"Skydiving ruins marriages, marriage ruins skydivers." Skydiving doesn't ruin marriages. If a couple get divorced "because of skydiving" then there were other problems with the stability of the relationship in the first place. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #13 July 24, 2002 QuoteSkydiving doesn't ruin marriages. Just relating what was told to me by people who've been jumping a lot longer than I have, and also relating what I've seen in the past 12 years... Sure there may have been other problems in the relationships, but in most cases skydiving is what pushed them over the edge. And I have known people who've had excellent relationships, but (by the admission of both people) those relationships ended when one of the two started jumping, and the jumping is what did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gale 0 #14 July 24, 2002 I just don't get it personally. I thought couples were supposed to have seperate lives, as well as together lives. I guess I could see myself spending a moderate amount of time at a dz so I could spend more time with someone else. But if you make skydiving a priority over EVERYTHING else then it's definately not going to work. There are some well balanced guys at my dz with wives and kids. True, they don't hang out as much as some of the other skydivers, but I would say they seem happeir overall. Balance. (maybe that's not a word that skydivers use ) GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #15 July 24, 2002 Quote 2 girlfriends (freeflier/rw type), 2 drinks (beer/tequila), Uh, 2.... Ahh, sounds dumb.... Anyway, I'm gonna have another Corona. That two girlfriends thing DID NOT go un-noticed How do you jump them both? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 July 24, 2002 Well, the RW girl is the one you call when you want dinner cooked or a nice quiet night... The FF girl is the one who likes to go out and tear the town down, party till neither of you can stand and have long nights of passionate sex... So you see, it balances...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #17 July 24, 2002 QuoteThe FF girl is the one who likes to go out and tear the town down, party till neither of you can stand and have long nights of passionate sex... No offense, Dave but you are completely full of shit. Do you see any Freefly girls posting their tits, doing spankings, naked beacon rides or Naked loads? Name me one - wild and crash freefly girl I say they are all talk and no action . Prove me wrong! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 July 24, 2002 Do you know Carrol? I'm sure you do...there's one. hehe (man is it cold in here when the wrath of Paula comes down...)--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #19 July 24, 2002 QuoteI dunno. Take up BASE. One parachute. No girlfriend. More than two drinks. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbain 0 #20 July 24, 2002 I don't know. I got divorced and then started skydiving. Now, I don't think I could even date a whuffo. For one I'm either at work or at the dz, I don't have time for all that mushy relationship stuff, I'm too busy having fun. Not to mention the whole $$ factor. I have another question though, maybe it's just the dz here but have you guys ever noticed how many male skydivers have whuffo girlfriends/wives compared to female skydivers having whuffo boyfriends/husbands? Like someone said above (sorry can't remember who) I'm a young single female skydiver, it's all good. Christina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbain 0 #21 July 24, 2002 Paula, In Dallas this weekend, I don't know their names but there were a couple ffly girls doing naked jumps and flashing the pilot. But they were doing RW on some of the big ways too so I don't know if that counts. Of course you know, I could always prove you wrong too. I don't think it matters whether its RW or Ffly, skydiving chics rock! Christina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #22 July 24, 2002 QuoteNo offense, Dave but you are completely full of shit. I'm with ya paula, RW girls all the way. But, if I can borrow from BillVon.... Girls who go both ways... like Country AND Western, Freeflying AND RW, now THAT's something to celebrate. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #23 July 24, 2002 I'll actually respond to this one seriously... I'm married, and a skydiver. It can be rough. I was a paratrooper in the Army before I got married, and I told my wife on our first date that I wanted to skydive again. Fast-forward 2 years, and we are married. I surprised her with a trip to the DZ. I did my AFF 1, and she did a tandem. She said she liked it (especially the canopy time), but has no desire to go through AFF. So she isn't a total whuffo. It gets difficult when I want to go to the DZ and she wants me to do other things. So we compromise. That seems to be something most skydivers have trouble with. I don't get to jump as much as I want, but she is gradually growing in her acceptance that this is just something I do. I've also educated her on all the safety issues. She still gets nervous, but she understands that I do everything I can to be a safe jumper in an admittedly dangerous sport. Now, I let her know about jump trips way in advance, so she can plan something to do without me. When I go to the DZ, it is often a day trip. When I go overnight, I'm not big into the party scene. I won't be hooking up with random people. I don't want to get so hungover that my next jump day is crap. I go to jump, and I on my precious jump trips, I don't want anything to interfere with that. I agree with what someone else said, that skydiving doesn't make or break a relationship. It definitely adds stress, but if the relationship is healthy, it can handle it. The whole "healthy relationship" thing is the hard part. If jumping quickly breaks a marriage, then it was really broken before. Just my $.02. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #24 July 24, 2002 Pretty simple really....the Divorce rate averages 50% anyway right? Well....now lets throw in a guy that likes to skydive. Normally has type A personality. Skydiving can be obsessive anyway but this guy gets REALLY sucked in. He parties at the DZ so no matter what a woman will be either jealous because he is having a great time without her or suspect he is cheating or most likely both. Whether he is really doing anything or not. It's just the way women are. So....since he is off having fun without her it tends to drive a wedge between them. Plus....chics are just nuts anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #25 July 24, 2002 Quote No offense, Dave but you are completely full of shit. Do you see any Freefly girls posting their tits, doing spankings, naked beacon rides or Naked loads? Did someone say spankings?????? I'm with Paula on this one. If you wanna girl to "cook you dinner", you may wanna check out the girls lookin to get their M.R.S. degrees!!!! But, if you really want me to "cook you dinner", I'll be more than happy to buy a case......since we all know that beer has food value. (Don't tell Sunshine I said so.....but she is a FF girl who is ALL talk and NO action!!!!)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
