Viking 0 #1 July 12, 2002 Ok i just had this coversation with my dad about reaching Absolute Zero (0ºK, -273.15ºC, or -459.67ºF) do you guys think it is possible to get so cold that it would stop the motion of atoms? Discuss. I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifallout 0 #2 July 12, 2002 not and tell anyone about it. Bill have fun, love life, be nice to the humans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #3 July 12, 2002 Nope. One can get infinitely close to absolute zero, but can never reach it. The third law of thermodynamics forbids reaching it. Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #4 July 12, 2002 QuoteNope. One can get infinitely close to absolute zero, but can never reach it. The third law of thermodynamics forbids reaching it. Erno Yup. I like your signature...it reminds me of work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #5 July 12, 2002 >I like your signature...it reminds me of work Then you'd probably appreciate the work of Scott Adams, the creator of "Dilbert". I just started reading his book "The Dilbert principle" again, and it does remind me of some the places i've worked at...Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #6 July 12, 2002 After years of experience I believe that the last truly idiot proof design was the the iron cannon ball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 July 12, 2002 QuoteAfter years of experience I believe that the last truly idiot proof design was the the iron cannon ball You're forgetting about the asshole who dropped it on his foot and was then unable to load it to shoot at the enemy...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #8 July 12, 2002 True but even though it has been misused and dropped and generally f@$ked with, it is still a working cannon ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #9 July 12, 2002 yep, last I heard they were something like 0.00034 x 10-9 K some physics law were made cause in that time they couldn't think of something else and didn't have the technology to prove it (happened to einstein, he was called crazy), a good example of it is the first ripcord pull in skydiving, they thought that you couldn't move in freefall and would never be able to pull the ripcord. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #10 July 12, 2002 I can't see how this is possible, but isn't there a theory floating round that you can get less than absolute zero?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ditch9276 0 #11 July 12, 2002 Nope, not in freefall but if ya think it´s cold, take a thermokombiThe only rings that are worth wearing, are those of my 3-ring-system!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #12 July 12, 2002 >but isn't there a theory floating round that you can get less than absolute zero? See this:http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/neg_temperature.html I didn't bother to read it, and even if i had, I probably wouldn't have understood it... So I did another search, which yielded an answer marginally more understandable: http://www.ph.bham.ac.uk/text/physics/admissions/puzzles/temperature.html The next question: What's beyond the border of the universe, and how can I get there?Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #13 July 12, 2002 As somone who studied low-temperature condensed matter physics in grad school, I can say it is definitely not possible. The closer you get, the harder everything becomes. I used to do experiments at millikelvin (.001K) temps. Some of the other experiments were operating at microkelvin temps (.000001K). The really cold stuff took about a month, just to cool it to that temperature. One of my labmates had many months of work ruined when a janitor banged her experiment with a cart and instantly warmed it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #14 July 12, 2002 I have to disagree with you, Phil. Absolute Zero is reached regularly, in the icy stares of women after Clay has just tried a cheesy pickup line on them in a bar.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #15 July 12, 2002 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone reaches absolute zero the Universe will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 July 12, 2002 QuoteThere is a theory which states that if ever anyone reaches absolute zero the Universe will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened Thanks for all the fish!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites