Help me decide on a container

[offaxis 0]

Ok I'm having a hard time deciding. I'm a free flier that has hours in the tunnel but not a lot of time in the sky. In my view this is how I've stacked up the 3 containers I'm most interested in:

Voodoo Curv:

Pros:
All inclusive - no options to mess with
Super freefly friendly
Supposed MARD system in the works

Cons:
10 weeks ( i know it's no that bad )
Can't downsize as easily as other rigs
No real track record
No current MARD system
No semi stowless D bag??

Infinity:

Pros:
Very simple and tested rig
Floating laterals
5 weeks for fully custom rig!
Can pick up the rig with two fingers under the pin protector flap

Cons:
No MARD
Not a huge fan of the closing flaps

Javelin:

Pros:
Magnetic Riser covers
Tried and tested
MARD
I can hae one in 2 weeks with a fully customized harness!

Cons:
A little pricey

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Unknowns on all:
I'm having a difficult time between ordering something with a Skyhook (Javelin) or a standard RSL. I am usually pulling around 4.5K and while there is never a guarantee I try to be one of the last out of the plane (single or small group free fly).

I've spoken to a few DZ guys, some of whom swear by the simplicity of the RSL and even speak out against new conditions that the skyhook introduces and others who are sponsored jumpers by companies that don't offer the skyhook but fly a skyhook configured rig.

This controversy has me at a loss. Help me decide!

[woppyvac 0]

People purchase for different reasons... Safety, Comfort, Price, Style, Options, Popularity, etc.

Before committing so much money read, reread, then review it a few more times before going forward.

Those rigs are similar. But of your choices, I prefer the Javelin because of it's reserve packing/semi exposed pilot.


Good Luck!


(If you are so inclined to have the reserve opened with a main release system but want to save $ you could go with a Wings and get the Boost system. Personally, I'm a Racer fan)

Woot Woot!

[dmaverick 0]

NexGen Icon Pro with MARD and magnetic riser covers can be a good choice too.

[diablopilot 2]

I'll give you another pro for the Javelin. Less flaps for the reserve pilot chute to have to clear. I believe this to be a BIG deal.

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

[packing_jarrett 0]

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Javelin. Less flaps for the reserve pilot chute to have to clear.

Racer. no flaps for a reserve pilot chute to clear
And they weigh less, cost less. function more.
better pin protection with an efficient reserve pilotchute
stronger webbing and more compatible with hardware.
now with magnets and spacer foam backpad.

Skydivings best kept secret.

Na' Cho' Cheese

[dpreguy 14]

And no RSL

[packing_jarrett 0]

That's False. All modern rigs have Reserve Static Lines. If we are talking about basic components they also come with a harness and flaps to hold the parachutes.

Na' Cho' Cheese

[dpreguy 14]

OK. Turn that rig around - Let's see the RSL

[packing_jarrett 0]

That rig doesn't have an RSL installed. Like other Manufactures. It's the choice of the user if they would like one or not. I've attached a pick of a racer with an RSL. If you would like more photos of racers with Rsls just ask.

Na' Cho' Cheese

[Remster 30]

The OP listed a set of rigs he has narrowed things down to. Lets not turn this into another Racer war thread.

Remster

[RiggerLee 61]

Actually have you seen the NEW racer RSL? The new sliding RSL extension is a legitimate upgrade. It actually makes the dual sided RSL functional.

Lee

Lee
lee@velocitysportswear.com
www.velocitysportswear.com

[adamUK 3]

Get an infinity with black hardware with all the liquid sky pimp extras. It'll cost a billion dollars but you'll get to hang out with all the cool kids. Especially if you get the matching freefly suit

[RMURRAY 1]

he works at jumpshack so I image he has. but I have not...

[offaxis 0]

Haha.

I want to make sure that the DZ's I visit have riggers / packers that are super familiar with the gear I jump. I have actually never seen a racer but that's not saying much. I did however jump a Jav all the way through AFF and A license and an Infinity after that.

This has actually eliminated the Voodoo Curv from my choices just because my DZ has no experience with it.

And in an added twist a friend of mine is getting rid of their near brand new Vector 3 so I should add that in...

[danornan 79]

As we all have opinions, after 25+ years of skydiving and several "saves" with an RSL, one with a demo skyhook, I sold my last rig and ordered a new one with a skyhook. I would not want to jump without one!

My last "save' involved a wrap and cut away way too low and unintentional. Many on the ground said I would not be writing this if it were not for the skyhook. Just my .02

Dano

[raceface 0]

Javelin is the only with AAD cutter on bottom and i like it.

my pictures

[likestojump 3]

raceface

Javelin is the only with AAD cutter on bottom and i like it.

I hate to say it, but depending on how you think, Racer had the AAD cutter on the bottom as well :)

[scottd818 0]

adamUK

Get an infinity with black hardware with all the liquid sky pimp extras. It'll cost a billion dollars but you'll get to hang out with all the cool kids. Especially if you get the matching freefly suit

Hey it worked for me! HAHAHA

[piisfish 140]

diablopilot

I'll give you another pro for the Javelin. Less flaps for the reserve pilot chute to have to clear. I believe this to be a BIG deal.

you need less flaps with their crappy PC spring

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[Pablo.Moreno 0]

I have jump a few Javelin, Reflex(I know) Wings and Curv.

The Curv is far the most comfortable rig I have worn it really doesn't interfere with any body position needed for skydiving and you barely feel is pack, it also really easy to see if the closing loop have been miss routed and the view for the aad is nice as well beside all other bells and whistles(such as the grippers on the handles and freefly pouch).
Also, how the free bag is design, you can put a two size bigger reserve of what is indicated in the chart (I have a Micro Raven 150 and it says it can fit an Optimum 143)
Had a cuttaway already and it was fine).

I would say try to jump as many of the options you have and buy whatever feels more comfortable and affordable(I think most of modern rigs passed the safe concerns at this stage).

[JohnnyMarko 1]

Remster

The OP listed a set of rigs he has narrowed things down to. Lets not turn this into another Racer war thread.

MIRAGE!

[dpreguy 14]

Can someone post a picture of the "sliding RSL extension"?

[dpreguy 14]

I've seen pictures and drawings of the double sided RSL for years. This picture is nothing new.

[RiggerLee 61]

Because that's the old one.

There's a vid of the new lanyard here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s6IyjvcnYa4

It doesn't show real good close ups but if you look close you can see how it works. With the new sliding extension the system actually works now. It doesn't fix any of the other... issues but it now works as advertised with out firing your reserve into a spinning main. As quirky as it is it now makes for an interesting system. It's enough of an up grade that I don't think you should pack one of there double sided RSL's with out it.

Lee

Lee
lee@velocitysportswear.com
www.velocitysportswear.com

[skytribe 17]

If you want to get pick the Teardrop also has the cutter on the bottom of the container. As does the Vortex 2.