labrys 0 #1 September 11, 2013 In another thread here someone said that the Hornet and the Pilot were different planforms. I say that they are the same planform. The are both lightly elliptical. When we tell someone not to change planforms and downsize at the same size what we really mean is don't move to a more elliptical class of canopy and downsize at the same time. It's our common usage of the word planform. It doesn't mean that you shouldn't go from a Hornet 190 to a Sabre2 170 at the same time. It means that you shouldn't go from a Hornet 190 to a Katana 170 at the same time. I'm being called obtuse and shown the wiki definition of the word planform. So who's right in your opinion. I'll take my lumps publicly if the majority disagree with me.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,216 #2 September 11, 2013 I posted the wiki entry. I thought it supported your position completely. I agree with you and thought others were obtuse. But I don't really know if the Pilot and Hornet are the same planform. They certainly could be. KenAlways remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #3 September 11, 2013 I thought it was all in good fun personally but I see the butthurt still flows freely on these forums after all these years. It's nice to know some things will never change.NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #4 September 11, 2013 Quote I posted the wiki entry. I thought it supported your position completely. I agree with you and thought others were obtuse. But I don't really know if the Pilot and Hornet are the same planform. They certainly could be. Ken I misunderstood I'm not the least bit "butthurt" (to the post above). I think that this is fun Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evan85 0 #5 September 11, 2013 I think there's a difference between "planform" and "planform factor", and that is causing your confusion. I also use "Planform" to refer to the general shape or class of a wing--rectangular, lightly elliptical, elliptical, elliptical & crossbraced, etc. "Planform factor" is a number that tells you how elliptical a canopy is. For example, the Pilot's planform factor is 6.6 (http://www.flyaerodyne.com/pilot.asp). If the Hornet is indeed also a lightly-elliptical canopy, I would call it the same planform, even though it may not have the same planform factor as the Pilot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 September 12, 2013 You initially agreed with the assertion that the Hornet and Pilot were the same canopy rebranded. To which i replied that they are different planforms. In the context of this I think you're being a pedant, and ignoring your 1st assertionYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #7 September 12, 2013 Quote You initially agreed with the assertion that the Hornet and Pilot were the same canopy rebranded. To which i replied that they are different planforms. In the context of this I think you're being a pedant, and ignoring your 1st assertion I'm going to defer just because I admire how articulate you are Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
