ramon 0 #1 July 2, 2002 Well...I have been given an offer with some friends to organize freefly loads, boogies, swoop splashdowns and fun stuff at a new DZ. I am going to miss my friends I have made over the past 2 years, but what do you do? Is it greedy because I will improve my skills and at the same time help others and help a DZ create a 'new exciting thing'? It was so hard for me to tell anyone, I didn't tell anyone (except 2 friends) at my old DZ yet. Should I be ahsamed, I didn't work at my home dZ I was just a fun jumper, but I feel like a traitor. The other DZ (I have friends there too) need help from us, we can change things for them I know it. What would you do? Ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #2 July 2, 2002 QuoteWhat would you do? Go. Definitely. If you can make a difference at a new place, why not? And you can always take a weekend off to go play at your old home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #3 July 2, 2002 That is a hard thing to consider, although it is fun to go new places...Personally, I think I would enjoy having the ability to do what you've been offered to do, but that's just me. Out of curiosity, this a new DZ in Texas?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites coconutmonkey 0 #4 July 2, 2002 Hey, if they're your friends they'll support you in this move. It's a great opprotunity to get out and develop your own style of working in the sport after learning alot from your first DZ. Change is a good thing because it forces us to grow and learn that one way of doing things isn't the only way. Have fun with your new adventure & Good luck!Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #5 July 2, 2002 You know where I'm going... SDHouston I think we are going to create non-stop load organizing for all skill levels. You should come by."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverdriver 5 #6 July 2, 2002 Ramon, this is NOT a cult. You are not a "traitor", as you put it, if you want to go experience another DZ. Go where you want to go and when you want to go. If anyone else has a problem with it you tell them to shove it. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dove 0 #7 July 2, 2002 Funny thing is - wherever you go is your home dz. Mine was Delmarva first - I learned there. Then Zhills cause I moved to St. Pete. Spending a lot of time up north now and definitely consider Orange my home. None replaces the other - you just have lots of homes now! Always feels like coming home when I go back to any of them! So welcome home! dove Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites f1freak 0 #8 July 2, 2002 you got it...HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbrian 0 #9 July 2, 2002 I moved 1200 miles from my home dz because it snows there. They became my family and I miss them alot. (They might even miss me, too!) But there is no growth without change, so go ahead and do it! In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #10 July 2, 2002 go!! I havent been handed the opportunity to jump more then 36 times at any particular DZ. so all I know is traveling. I think that once I get to vegas I may feel like I am stagnating at ONE DZ. (i got no prob drivingto another dz) But I am thrilled to think that maybe I will be PART of a dz. and not just a damn visitor!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airann 1 #11 July 2, 2002 EXCUSE ME- QuoteThe other DZ (I have friends there too) need help from us,... Damn - That is SO cool of you to start a charity. Be sure to get your non-profit tax exempt status. You walked right into that one Ramon. I am only messing with you, bro. ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #12 July 2, 2002 Go, Ramon, and don't regret your decision at all. Life is all about change and growth, this is a wonderful opportunity. I believe that when life gives you a choice like this, that it's for a reason, and you should take it. There's nothing to be ashamed about. Your skills are being recognized by others- be proud of that and give yourself a pat on the back! And, you said the new dz needs some help. Just think of how you'll feel a year from now, knowing that you made a difference in so many skydiver's lives (assuming you do a good job!) If any of your friends don't support you, then they are just jealous. Your true friends will be happy for you. Go for it!She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #13 July 2, 2002 hey ramon, after reading all these replies about going it may seem like nobody wants you around I'm guessing thats not the case. LOL if you are just going "down the road a piece" you can always visit your home when you plan it. its not unusual for people to frequent more then one dz. if you do some L.O. at the new dz you can bring that experience with you everywhere. if you dont you will only be able to think about your missed opportunity! have fun!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevlarsxs 0 #14 July 2, 2002 Hey what do you care what people think anyway, didnt you start skydiving for...........YOU Hell i drove over 1500 miles leaving my home dz, Have fun tear it up! "GIVE 'EM THE AXE" - LIZZY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TequilaGirl 0 #15 July 2, 2002 Hey Ramon send me a pm....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leeann 0 #16 July 2, 2002 And we dooo miss (you)him..but now at least I have a place to stay when it does snow here..get ready winter is right around the corner.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #17 July 2, 2002 You can go as long as someday you take that 45minute drive north from SDH to come visit Aggieland. Like during the AOT Boogie Sept 13th...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dbattman 0 #18 July 2, 2002 Going to other places is great. Don't worry at all about moving. Here's my list so far: Since April 1, 2001 Taylorville, IL Monroe, GA (home-sort of) Gladewater, TX Vandalia, IL Pine Hill/Avon, NY Houston, Tx Ovid, NY Chester, SC Orange, VA West Point, VA Account but no jumps- Rosharon, TX Hinkley, IL Stopped to check them out Wharton, TX (now closed) Someplaces I stop for a day or a weekend, at others I'm a regular there for a month or two. Every place I've been to has been great and I've never felt like an outsider. It's also kinda neat to be hundreds of miles from home and see your home dz jumpship come in for jumps- fits like an old pair of sweats. Hit the road and have a blast. 'Wherever you go , there you are.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trent 0 #19 July 2, 2002 It's okay Ramon, you'll be back here... it's only a matter of time. Besides, we've got all the freeflying chicks. Good luck!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumperpaula 0 #20 July 2, 2002 Quote Well...I have been given an offer with some friends to organize freefly loads, boogies, swoop splashdowns and fun stuff at a new DZ. Ramon It's not OK with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #21 July 2, 2002 ok I meant you need us"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #22 July 2, 2002 which is a spalshing competition at SLAND. I can maybe be there for 1 day. r"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #23 July 2, 2002 sorry. I'll still be around..some time."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rachill 0 #24 July 3, 2002 We DO miss you ramon!!! Who is going to shoot our next WVSCR attempt man????? Hope you come visit us ! BooYa#1 GR#50 You might be a skydiver if... Your having sex and she whispers in your ear "I've never done this before" and you yell out "Case of Beer" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #25 July 3, 2002 QuoteWho is going to shoot our next WVSCR attempt man????? I'll sit on my tailgate and take some pot shots at it if you want...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." 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AggieDave 6 #3 July 2, 2002 That is a hard thing to consider, although it is fun to go new places...Personally, I think I would enjoy having the ability to do what you've been offered to do, but that's just me. Out of curiosity, this a new DZ in Texas?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coconutmonkey 0 #4 July 2, 2002 Hey, if they're your friends they'll support you in this move. It's a great opprotunity to get out and develop your own style of working in the sport after learning alot from your first DZ. Change is a good thing because it forces us to grow and learn that one way of doing things isn't the only way. Have fun with your new adventure & Good luck!Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #5 July 2, 2002 You know where I'm going... SDHouston I think we are going to create non-stop load organizing for all skill levels. You should come by."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #6 July 2, 2002 Ramon, this is NOT a cult. You are not a "traitor", as you put it, if you want to go experience another DZ. Go where you want to go and when you want to go. If anyone else has a problem with it you tell them to shove it. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dove 0 #7 July 2, 2002 Funny thing is - wherever you go is your home dz. Mine was Delmarva first - I learned there. Then Zhills cause I moved to St. Pete. Spending a lot of time up north now and definitely consider Orange my home. None replaces the other - you just have lots of homes now! Always feels like coming home when I go back to any of them! So welcome home! dove Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1freak 0 #8 July 2, 2002 you got it...HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #9 July 2, 2002 I moved 1200 miles from my home dz because it snows there. They became my family and I miss them alot. (They might even miss me, too!) But there is no growth without change, so go ahead and do it! In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #10 July 2, 2002 go!! I havent been handed the opportunity to jump more then 36 times at any particular DZ. so all I know is traveling. I think that once I get to vegas I may feel like I am stagnating at ONE DZ. (i got no prob drivingto another dz) But I am thrilled to think that maybe I will be PART of a dz. and not just a damn visitor!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #11 July 2, 2002 EXCUSE ME- QuoteThe other DZ (I have friends there too) need help from us,... Damn - That is SO cool of you to start a charity. Be sure to get your non-profit tax exempt status. You walked right into that one Ramon. I am only messing with you, bro. ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #12 July 2, 2002 Go, Ramon, and don't regret your decision at all. Life is all about change and growth, this is a wonderful opportunity. I believe that when life gives you a choice like this, that it's for a reason, and you should take it. There's nothing to be ashamed about. Your skills are being recognized by others- be proud of that and give yourself a pat on the back! And, you said the new dz needs some help. Just think of how you'll feel a year from now, knowing that you made a difference in so many skydiver's lives (assuming you do a good job!) If any of your friends don't support you, then they are just jealous. Your true friends will be happy for you. Go for it!She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #13 July 2, 2002 hey ramon, after reading all these replies about going it may seem like nobody wants you around I'm guessing thats not the case. LOL if you are just going "down the road a piece" you can always visit your home when you plan it. its not unusual for people to frequent more then one dz. if you do some L.O. at the new dz you can bring that experience with you everywhere. if you dont you will only be able to think about your missed opportunity! have fun!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevlarsxs 0 #14 July 2, 2002 Hey what do you care what people think anyway, didnt you start skydiving for...........YOU Hell i drove over 1500 miles leaving my home dz, Have fun tear it up! "GIVE 'EM THE AXE" - LIZZY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TequilaGirl 0 #15 July 2, 2002 Hey Ramon send me a pm....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leeann 0 #16 July 2, 2002 And we dooo miss (you)him..but now at least I have a place to stay when it does snow here..get ready winter is right around the corner.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 July 2, 2002 You can go as long as someday you take that 45minute drive north from SDH to come visit Aggieland. Like during the AOT Boogie Sept 13th...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #18 July 2, 2002 Going to other places is great. Don't worry at all about moving. Here's my list so far: Since April 1, 2001 Taylorville, IL Monroe, GA (home-sort of) Gladewater, TX Vandalia, IL Pine Hill/Avon, NY Houston, Tx Ovid, NY Chester, SC Orange, VA West Point, VA Account but no jumps- Rosharon, TX Hinkley, IL Stopped to check them out Wharton, TX (now closed) Someplaces I stop for a day or a weekend, at others I'm a regular there for a month or two. Every place I've been to has been great and I've never felt like an outsider. It's also kinda neat to be hundreds of miles from home and see your home dz jumpship come in for jumps- fits like an old pair of sweats. Hit the road and have a blast. 'Wherever you go , there you are.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trent 0 #19 July 2, 2002 It's okay Ramon, you'll be back here... it's only a matter of time. Besides, we've got all the freeflying chicks. Good luck!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jumperpaula 0 #20 July 2, 2002 Quote Well...I have been given an offer with some friends to organize freefly loads, boogies, swoop splashdowns and fun stuff at a new DZ. Ramon It's not OK with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #21 July 2, 2002 ok I meant you need us"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #22 July 2, 2002 which is a spalshing competition at SLAND. I can maybe be there for 1 day. r"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #23 July 2, 2002 sorry. I'll still be around..some time."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rachill 0 #24 July 3, 2002 We DO miss you ramon!!! Who is going to shoot our next WVSCR attempt man????? Hope you come visit us ! BooYa#1 GR#50 You might be a skydiver if... Your having sex and she whispers in your ear "I've never done this before" and you yell out "Case of Beer" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #25 July 3, 2002 QuoteWho is going to shoot our next WVSCR attempt man????? I'll sit on my tailgate and take some pot shots at it if you want...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Trent 0 #19 July 2, 2002 It's okay Ramon, you'll be back here... it's only a matter of time. Besides, we've got all the freeflying chicks. Good luck!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #20 July 2, 2002 Quote Well...I have been given an offer with some friends to organize freefly loads, boogies, swoop splashdowns and fun stuff at a new DZ. Ramon It's not OK with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #21 July 2, 2002 ok I meant you need us"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #22 July 2, 2002 which is a spalshing competition at SLAND. I can maybe be there for 1 day. r"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #23 July 2, 2002 sorry. I'll still be around..some time."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rachill 0 #24 July 3, 2002 We DO miss you ramon!!! Who is going to shoot our next WVSCR attempt man????? Hope you come visit us ! BooYa#1 GR#50 You might be a skydiver if... Your having sex and she whispers in your ear "I've never done this before" and you yell out "Case of Beer" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 July 3, 2002 QuoteWho is going to shoot our next WVSCR attempt man????? I'll sit on my tailgate and take some pot shots at it if you want...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites